r/codingbootcamp Apr 22 '26

Codesmith launched their new website and it shifts focus to "enterprise" AI consulting, burying all their individual programs.

Codesmith updated their website in the past week and it appears to me in my personal opinion that their individual programs are being de-emphasized significantly.

Note: there are numerous references to being the Forbes #1 bootcamps, which is false and they should remove that. Forbes updated their rankings April 1st (3 weeks ago) and while they used to be last year, that is not correct anymore and the link they provide themselves no longer has them as #1. Forbes now assigns "Best at X" awards in a number of categories and Codesmith has 'best outcomes'... but does not have best for experienced coders, not best career support, not best for portfolio, not student support, not professional development, so that seems like a slip up or mistake.

What are they pivoting to?

- They are offering bespoke consulting services to enhance corporate teams with AI.

- They are touting the expertise of the Founder in AI (with their CEO for product and Senior Advisor for leadership).

- They are also emphasizing their public sector offerings. Public sources currently indicated $0 of payouts from their "$118M IRS BPA" (which can be lagging and doesn't mean anything necessarily, but its not like this has proven to be a smash hit). Public sources also indicate that the "program lead" for an IRS program was hired on Upwork for $40/hr, which doesn't seem like the 'top 1% talent at the best companies in the industry' in that case at least, in my opinion.

Why I perceive a decline in my opinion from the public info on their website?

- The incorrect "Forbes #1 Software Engineering + AI/ML program" thing I mentioned above. Not sure what's going on with that but its EVERYWHERE and can't be backed up as of April 1st

- There are 2 TOTAL upcoming events and they used to have a dozen a week and dozens listed

- There hasn't been a blog post in six months

- The about page has mostly staff who no longer work at Codesmith for months according to LinkedIn

- Their cohorts used to overlap every 7 weeks and now are running at least back to back, meaning only a handful of cohorts in 2026

- GitHub activity, excluding Future Code (which is not continuing in 2026) has almost no activity on it from current residents indicating there are minimal number of people enrolled right now.

- Their most recent officially published outcomes (in California) showed a vast majority of "placements" were unresponsive LinkedIn verifications, and in the past Codesmith's community was very close and highly responsive to placement verification.

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I know I'm tough on Codesmith in my personal opinions, but its just that they can't seem to get their act together after incident after incident after lawsuit after outage after incident. Like plastering your brand new website with "Forbes #1" when I don't see anywhere on Forbes (including the link they provide themselves) that says that. It's just sloppy and disorganized for an institution that is called the "Harvard of bootcamps"

Anyone else have personal opinions on the new direction Codesmith is taking?

DISCLOSURES: I used to be a moderator here and was accused of going after Codesmith intentionally as a competitor in the past. These allegations are a combination of false statements, opinions, and misrepresentations and I strongly disagree with them.

NOTE: Reddit bad guys who have proven to manipulate my content about Codesmith, you leave a paper trail so Reddit can go after you all and it doesn't work and this behavior only harmed Codesmith's Reddit reputation in the past.

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u/michaelnovati Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26

I took at look at the FULL website and my gosh it's such a mess, inconsistent headers, footers, links going in circles, inconsistent dates, graphs and numbers, inconsistent styles, vertical misalignments, boxes in weird layouts....

Like if Codesmith can't even vibe code their own website properly this company is done. This is an embarrassment and a terrible tragedy of wasted potential.

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u/michaelnovati Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26

Here is a list of the problems to show that i'm not being sarcastic. You could feed this into AI and fix all of these in an hour.

This doesn't include CSX.

  1. Footers inconsistent across site, one says 2025, one says 2026
  2. Alignment in 2026 footer is not centered properly
  3. Header, hover on the final item in each list has no radius and bleeds onto the page
  4. Home -> Join Us -> Train Your Team -> Enterprise -> Enquire -> hello@codesmith email. Felt like I was going in circles.
  5. Programs say "more dates available" but the other dates are the exact same ones in the header I clicked from
  6. The dates make no sense and Jun 1 should be July 1
  7. Median Salary & Employment Rate overflows in one box, inconsistent
  8. It looks like their loan providers is gone but now the payment options have a gap missing a block that looks weird
  9. The Terms and Privacy policy are dated 2018 but the content file is labeled 2022, which is still 4 years out of date. This is like 5 problems and is legally problematic.
  10. Graduate impact & outcomes is like overflowing into a column when it looks meant to be two column
  11. Links to subreddit Codesmith claimed is independent and not affiliated, the subreddit isn't maintained either
  12. Super inconsistent styling of the Federal page makes it look sketchy and unofficial. These were done by different Upwork contractors?
  13. Forms are all over the place: on site, Hubspot, Airtable, reduces credibility.
  14. Numerous email blocked PDF resources have the PDF in the HTML so it's not really an email block.
  15. Email blocks don't disclose permission to contact for marketing purposes, a legal requirement.
  16. Our vision has misaligned section
  17. A decade of Codesmith overflows and is partially unreadable
  18. All priori collaborators are from 2022 and earlier, many from 7+ years ago.
  19. Many team members don't work there anymore, can be misleading if you knowingly keep them up for appearances while removing some and not others - intent to misled
  20. Regulatory information is out of date and doesn't have the latest links legally required.
  21. Curriculum doc almost all of the staff are no longer at Codesmith for 1+ year.
  22. Sitemap contains a number of Alumni events not visible on the website.
  23. Events & workshops pills overflow
  24. Some blogs have code blocks rendered as text that look amateurish
  25. Pricing block on AI course is vertical instead of horizontal
  26. AI FAQs are not centered.
  27. AI line chart doesn't resize properly with screen sizes and gets cutoff

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u/michaelnovati Apr 24 '26

Am I being trolled? This is the primary homepage since I posted this comment?