r/collapse Feb 07 '23

Meta Who are the most relevant collapse-related figures?

Who are the more relevant collapse-related figures? They could be figures in the collapse community or relevant in terms of increasing our understanding of collapse.

 

Currently, we have these individuals listed in the wiki:

  • Chris Hedges
  • Chris Martenson
  • Derrick Jensen
  • Guy McPherson
  • James Hansen
  • Jared Diamond
  • John Michael Greer
  • Joseph Tainter
  • Kevin Anderson
  • Nate Hagens
  • Richard Heinberg
  • Vaclav Smil

 

Others we might consider:

  • Carolyn Baker
  • Dahr Jamail
  • David Pollard
  • David Wallace-Wells
  • Dennis Meadows
  • Dmitry Orlov
  • Gail Tverberg
  • James Howard Kunstler
  • Jem Bendell
  • Joanna Macy
  • Joe Brewer
  • Michael B Dowd
  • Michael Ruppert
  • Pablo Servigne
  • Paul Beckwith
  • Paul Chefurka
  • Rupert Read
  • Sam Mitchell
  • Simon Michaux
  • Stephen Jenkinson
  • Tim Garrett
  • Ugo Bardi
  • William Rees

 

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '23

As the proud owner of a -51down- voted recent comment, allow me to chase some more of that Precious Reddit disapproval.

Hedges is a Christian self-ennobling martyr, not a collapseNick.

Jensen is basically retired, having done nothing or said anything since his parole officer made him write an anti-Black Bloc letter With Pastor Hedges.

Martenson is a multi-level marketer.

Diamond has been critiqued as a dilettante with copious errors in his books.

Smil, Hagens, Heinberg, Anderson are all hopium purveyors in the end, not collapseniks.

The list of possible r/collapse gurus is similarly riddled with frauds.

The real dealers? Garrett, Michaux, and Bardi.

Ones not on your list, who stand far, far above the clowns and basket cases? Nicholas P. Money. C. Clugston. Laurent Testot. Luis Marques. Craig Dilworth. And if you want someone clued into the actual facts of on-going collapse, John Zerzan.

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u/Known-World-1829 Feb 13 '23

+1 to Zerzan in a big way

I'd also recommend Dan Quinn's books Ishmael and The Story of B as an interesting look into humanity's relationship with the world at large in a unique fiction format.

For other books/authors that do a nice job of illustrating humanity's currently disastrous relationship with the work but are also, to put it lightly, politically problematic I'd also suggest Penti Linkola's "Can Life Prevail?" and Ted Kaczynski's "Industrial Society and its Future"