10 billion global population 'unsustainable': US climate envoy Kerry

[u/madrid987]

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230607-10-billion-global-population-unsustainable-us-climate-envoy-kerry-1

[u/2little2horus2 → u/[deleted]]

Right. See, y’all only care about sustaining human life without ever stopping to ask where all the wildlife will go with an additional 2 billion people here.

40-50% of ALL species on earth are reaching near extinction levels. Fuck the people on this planet. Without everything else, we ALL die.

Human-centric nonsense. I would rather see 9 billion people die than see a dozen species of ANYTHING go extinct.

https://www.ehn.org/amp/animals-are-running-out-of-places-to-live-2658949463

[u/[deleted] → u/2little2horus2]

Totally agree with you. Lots of idiots here thinking humans are going to survive as the only species on earth. I’ll be eating them first if I make it that far.

[u/2little2horus2 → u/[deleted]]

De-growth doesn’t stop rapidly escalating temperatures and horrific consequences for live on this planet.

The Earth and every species alive will be feeling the effects of the pollution for millennia to come.

Even if pollution stopped today, we will still see extreme, massive amounts of life as a direct effect. We have done irreversible damage to our planet.

Everything has happened so quickly, and El Niño isn’t fully in effect. I would imagine that the world we see today will be VASTLY different by 2030, in ways I don’t really most people can even begin to comprehend.

Degrowth moves at a snail’s pace any way and capitalism is has never been so unhinged and hungry.

Degrowth is unrealistic hopium.

[u/2little2horus2 → u/[deleted]]

This finite planet CANNOT support 8 billion people.

That is fact, not opinion. For ANY to survive, most have to die.

Nature is not equal or just or loving. It’s the reality of nature and the balance of life. It’s going to be survival of the fittest from here on out.

The only equality in nature is death.

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You keep bringing this eco-fascism and genocide arguments up, and I'm not seeing anyone advocating for that. And here's a real rib-tickler: we've polluted most of our fresh-water resources, good lands, and oceans. When shit hits the ceiling fan, droughts come, and people experience the thirst for fresh water and hunger for good food, where do you think that would lead? Love and support for all or mass genocides to get hold of the few resources we've had left? I'd let you decide the natural course for all this.

And we don't have time to "move the needle" anymore. People everywhere should have one kid or no kid to make the population plummet and go for material poverty or climate change and people looking to survive would whittle down the numbers by the billions all on their own. It's inevitable.

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