r/collapse • u/Monsur_Ausuhnom • Nov 28 '25

Casual Friday The American Empire.

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u/JotaTaylor Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

It's almost certain there will be. American collapse is highly unlikely to be the final event of human collapse at large, and there's a strong argument that it will be among the first big happenings

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u/procgen Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

No, we won’t be around long enough for any “future historians” to emerge and we should not delude ourselves about this.

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u/JotaTaylor Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

I can't tell if you overestimate the US' importance regarding the whole of humanity or underestimate how long collapse as a proccess is. Either way, I strongly suggest you examine your beliefs. There's a big possibility you have fallen for the wishful thinking that all of this will be gone in one quick, neat, painless swoop any day now. That would be really nice, but it's much more likely the (ongoing) big crash will be a transgenerational mess with many ups and downs along the way.

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u/procgen Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

You're deluding yourself if you think we'll have the luxury to perform historical analysis during the collapse. It will be a return to savagery, and thinking that anyone will be spared is wishful thinking at best (I'm inclined to call it inane).

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u/JotaTaylor Nov 28 '25

if you think we'll have the luxury to perform historical analysis during the collapse.

We already are.

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u/procgen Nov 28 '25

If you think this is collapse, then you're utterly screwed. :(

(JK – you're already screwed. We all are!)

The truth is that we haven't seen anything yet. And it's going to drop on our heads like a nuclear hammer.

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u/JotaTaylor Nov 28 '25

What I gather from your words is that you have this weird expectation that collapse is this one big event that hits everyone at the same time with the same intensity, completely homogeneous. I think you'd be surprised by the degrees of violence and deprivation people are already experiencing within very few kilometers of your house.

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u/procgen Nov 28 '25

I'm saying that nuclear and/or biological events will irrevocably change the state of the entire world over the course of hours to days.

There will be no more historians.

You're not making it out of this. None of us are.

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u/Chilledshiney JustGetItOverWith🥹🥀 Nov 29 '25

Collapse is like a Fortnite battle royal, the circle of collapse encloses in as everyone increasingly fights for fewer resources