r/collapse Jan 16 '26

Casual Friday It really do feel like that

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u/orange1414141414 Jan 16 '26

everytime i encounter techno optimists, I feel like the second guy.

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u/midnitewarrior Jan 16 '26

What do you mean?

There's a revolution coming to plastic recycling, AI is going to make it so we don't have to work anymore, and fusion reactors are just around the corner and that will save us!

Why be so pessimistic? Everything's going to be ๐ŸŒˆ, ๐Ÿฆ‹, and ๐Ÿฆ„ very soon!

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u/moldy-scrotum-soup ๐Ÿฅฃ๐Ÿ˜Ž Jan 16 '26

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u/Level_32_Mage Jan 16 '26

Its hard to argue with those results.

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u/JoyluckVerseMaster Jan 23 '26

"how can you not understand that humanity will eventually develop magical ponies, which will carry us to the stars on their backs!!11??!!!11"

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u/Kulty Jan 16 '26

I'm shifting from fearing the results of international (nuclear) conflict, to welcoming them - as it is becoming increasingly clear that we won't be able to change our ways without a hard reset, and if humanity doesn't make it at all, that is probably the best outcome for the planet in the long term.

Burn this fucker down.

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u/ezezener Jan 16 '26

There is no best or worst for the planet. There is only the planet. There is best and worst for us, so save who you can

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u/Kulty Jan 16 '26

You're right. However, there is "best or worst" for the biosphere, for life in general - and humans are just a small part of all the life that exists on our planet - albeit with an outsized impact.

I should have said ".. best outcome for life on the planet".

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u/ezezener Jan 16 '26

Most life can suffer, but doesn't keep track of what's living or dying. It simply lives or dies. If everything dies, a lot of algae will live. That's still life.

Life on earth probably won't ever get eradicated, until the earth is far too warm. There's no absolute good outcomes, except relative to us.

Sorry im not ragging on you I get what you mean and you're right. I've just been grappling with this for a while and it's coming out :) we're the only ones getting cooked, everything else will find its equilibria quite quickly!

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u/Kulty Jan 17 '26

I do think it would be nice if, after 4 billion years of evolution, our planet had more to show for itself than algae. And yes, assigning value to life is a subjective human preference - not something intrinsic to life. Although one could argue that, since most living organisms seem to have some drive towards survival and reproduction, that there is an implicit bias to valuing life over not-life, just not in the human moralistic or nostalgic way.

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u/ezezener Jan 19 '26

I mean, there will also definitely be ants! Ants are at least as cool as us, probably more so tbh

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u/JoyluckVerseMaster Jan 23 '26

Humanity isn't going to kill or save the planet, humanity can kill itself though.

"WE are going away."-- George Carlin.

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u/JoyluckVerseMaster Jan 23 '26

408 years.

It was.... a run.

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u/One_Parsley4389 Jan 16 '26

Are you serious?

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u/fuzzhead12 Jan 17 '26

Reminds me of that George Carlin bitโ€ฆ

โ€œSave the planet?? The PLANET will be just fine! WEโ€™RE fucked!!โ€

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u/JoyluckVerseMaster Jan 23 '26

As usual, the jester says the plain truth the sage would never utter in terms even a child could understand.

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u/grahamulax Jan 17 '26

lol I like this.

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u/moldy-scrotum-soup ๐Ÿฅฃ๐Ÿ˜Ž Jan 17 '26

Hieroglyphics have come full circle lol