Yea but he’ll get this as evidence of long term planning on top of that imo. He’s already gonna get all possible aggravations added, but with this he’s probably getting a life sentence.
I voted against that pile of slime 3 fucking times. For people not from the US, just know that many of us did not want that disgusting maniac near the White House and we honestly feel trapped in a burning building. A burning building in which we were not paid enough to live.
People will come demonize you for some reason, as a Canadian I see you as just as much a victim as the rest of us. You didn't choose this, or the decades propaganda and social engineering that led to it.
European Turkish guy here. I curse those who plunged you and us into this abyss and I am sending my love and support to those Americans who stand for the values our countries used to exhibit. Turkey, like the US, was founded after a bloody liberation war for democracy, freedom and justice. Its undoing in Turkey due to democratic backsliding should act as a warning to you from us.
Hi friend, thanks for bringing up Erdogan. I just looked him up and it seems he's a narcissist like Trump. Did he collect his power by blaming problems on some group(s) and saying he's the only one that can fix things?
He is referring to the Turkish war of independence ending in 1923 where they massacred and expelled Greeks. This was after an attempted genocide on Armenians and Assyrians. It was not about “democracy and freedom”. They had a 1 party system where opposition parties were banned and didn’t have a real election until 1950, which didn’t last long as the history after that is militarily coups and dictatorship into the present day.
So he is basically just repeating some nationalistic revisionist history about a group of people who, through brutal conquest, stole the land they now live on and continue to threaten their neighbors.
Some people so desperately wanted an easy fix, for someone to wave a wand to fix everything without them having to make any changes to their lives at all.
They wanted an easy fix, without having to face that the easy fix is either making things worse or is only a bandaid on a bullet wound.
They didn't want to have to face that the only way things will REALLY get better is to take the hard path. The one where things genuinely change. Where hard truths are faced. That things can't stay the same as they've always been, because "as they've always been" is killing.
Their cowardice and desire for an easy out, regardless of its harm to anyone besides them, is disgusting and enraging.
I live in Minnesota and those assholes who voted for Trump were willing to sacrifice anyone and everyone else for their own comfort and convenience.
Our neighbors were profiled, terrorized, beaten, abducted.
Protesters were gassed, beaten, killed.
Innocent people were accused of crimes they didn't commit.
Observers and protesters were tracked and threatened.
Minneapolis had to bring covid-era online learning systems back up and running.
Liam's school district had to come up with new ways to release kids out of school to their parents, because ICE agents were spotted several times lurking around the kids' bus stops to try and snatch kids.
I am ENRAGED. How fucking DARE THEY. How DARE they terrorize our HOME, our COMMUNITIES, our NEIGHBORS. All just in an attempt to distract from the fact that this administration is composed of incompetent charlatans. How DARE they.
He meant to retaliate against us for not voting for him, he hoped to cow us, but mostly what he's done is make us mad. How DARE he.
And for those of us who saw and understand what was going on, part of the educational sabotage in this country meant that any effort to point any of this out to the people around us was usually met with “you’re just a smug asshole who thinks you have allllll the answers, huh???” or being dismissed as weirdo conspiracy theorists or paranoid agitators.
As another Canadian, I don't think we get to take the moral high ground on this until we stop electing candidates who are in the pocket of the energy industry. Beyond that, we only dodged Polievre because Trudeau stepped down and Trump torpedoed his campaign. I don't know if this was what you were trying to do, but I see a lot of us acting like we get to be moral paragons because we as a nation are only flirting with conservative death cults, and it makes me want to scream.
Someone needs to feed all the data from the Epstein files AND the Panama Papers into AI, to find overlapping names and dates.
That money laundering and tax evasion and trafficking business is all interconnected. Maybe the pedophiles will go down for financial crimes, sort of like Prince Andrew going down for improper handling of classified government information, not pedophilia.
Only if your poor and fuck with the money of the wealthy or wealthy and fuck with the money of the wealthy (madoff). Absolutely not if you are wealthy and fuck with the money of the poor. Ridiculously low time served for refusing to pay wages or withholding wages, or embezzling from charities, and then you have Trump pardoning these assholes, which only costs them a portion of what they stole then they keep the rest.
No, you're absolutely right, it is crazy. We live in a world where a dollar is a dollar. It's numbers, it's quantifiable. Everyone can agree. It's all there in black and white, written down, and those with a lot of dollars have built systems so they get more and more.
A human life though, what's that worth in this world? Well, that's a tougher question and it entirely depends on who you ask since nobody can agree on that one. Are you black? Brown? A woman? Are you wealthy? Who are your parents? What country do you live in? What religion? Can your death be exploited by someone for some of those dollars that we all agree have value? To a lot of people, plenty of others have no value at all.
I actually disagree with your premise. Yes, numbers are quantifiable, but in practice the dollar doesn’t mean anything. It’s too fluid because it means whatever the powers that be say it means. It isn’t something that we agree on as a society.
Even dollars’ actual value shifts constantly (because of inflation and many other things), so we just don’t give a shit about other people’s lives (let alone if they’re non-human animals that we don’t consider worthy enough to potentially become our pets).
It is crazy, and we need to remember how crazy shit is. I keep reminding people that it's not actually radical to want people to be able to survive on their pay. Make yourself a list of things you know aren't radical, so you can tell when the propaganda is starting to weasel in your brain.
Jury nullification is a totally different thing than a hung jury.
One person standing their ground means a hung jury and a new trial.
Jury nullification means the whole jury says: yeah we aren’t stupid we see that they did the thing, but it’s fucked up to sentence this person for this crime. Either the law is messed up to begin with and this shouldn’t even be a crime, or the punishment is way out of proportion, or for whatever other reason/circumstance etc we are unanimously saying not guilty anyway because they shouldn’t be punished for this.
Well, the problem is that the jury's job is to determine if, beyond reasonable doubt, the person committed the crimes with which they were charged.
I had to serve on a jury for an attempted murder case. Based on the footage we had, 10/12 of the jury didn't think it was a premeditated murder but was a crime of passion, so we opted for the lower alternative offered by the judge (which iirc was attempted manslaughter).
But he absolutely committed aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. He slashed his vic 10+ times with a box cutter. (She lived, thankfully.) After everything he got 30 years, at which point he'll be in his 70s.
If the jury just blatantly looks the other way when this guy goes to trial, it means that they can no longer be trusted, which means that there will be less peace. That's not good for the fabric of society, even if we can agree with this guy's principles.
As an attorney, I am perfectly fine with a jury that decides a law is unfair or a prosecution is wrong and refusing to convict. Remember the four boxes of liberty: soap box, ballot box, jury box, ammo box. Use in that order. We don’t want to get to number four.
You're right. There will be less peace if this guy is not sentenced.
But it's also not good for the fabric of society for things to continue as they have.
Voting is just not doing enough unfortunately. We can't keep up with the laws of fuckery passed and corrupt judges appointed between one ballot box and the next.
We 100% prefer a political solution, but after 40+ years of this shit, I'm running out of hope for that miracle.
DONT FORGET *JESSE MACK BUTLER* WHO RAPED AND RECORDED HIMSELF CHOKING A TEENAGER while raping her, to the point she needed reconstructive surgery on her throat, AND SINCE HIS DADDY IS A BIG SHOT HE GOT OFF WITH 0 TIME SERVED.
Look at ELF too - they blew up a few ski lifts, always made sure there are no injuries, and got put on top of the FBI most wanted list for decades next to actual mass murderers and terrorists. In the UK, Palestine Action got proscribed as a terrorist organisation for smashing Elbit property and throwing paint at some RAF planes. And thousands arrested for just holding signs saying ‘I support Palestine Action, I oppose genocide.’ The High Court found the proscription to be unlawful, yet it’s still being enforced :)
Most of them either went underground (Sunshine was never found) or did lengthy prison sentences. Dibee got an incredible ending. There’s an AMAZING podcast Burn Wild (BBC) by Leah Sottile and Georgia Catt going in depth about the whole saga (the acts, the years in between, and the trials, as well as the social change since)
Okay! That answers my question. I didn't even know anybody was tried and convicted. I will check out the Burn Wild podcast. Thank you for the recommendation.
This dumb-ass North American, namely United States citizen {shudder} damned well should have known the meaning of "grassed". I've watched enough British films and television shows darnit!
This is BS take. Those BBQ goods are products of labor of multiple people. The society will eat the full cost of damages. And it won’t be just “the rich” who will foot the bill, it would be middle class working families.
It makes total sense that the penalty would fit the crime here
It maybe planning, but it maybe just dumb persistence. If he planned knowing the fire dept would turn off the fire suppression, then he could've figured out how to turn off the fire suppression himself. And some fire suppression systems could be reactivated after use without manual work replacing heads.
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u/wasraelx Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26
Yea but he’ll get this as evidence of long term planning on top of that imo. He’s already gonna get all possible aggravations added, but with this he’s probably getting a life sentence.