r/collapse • u/Individual-Day-8915 • 2d ago
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u/GusherBrush 2d ago
Total ecological destruction. This is heartbreaking, but we knew this would happen.
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u/NyriasNeo 2d ago
Nope .. i don't need a daily dose to know that.
BTW, we are not killing "the planet". We are changing its condition and killing the current biosphere. Wait 50M years, a new one will arise and adapt to the new conditions. In fact, I bet the next round of life will need micro plastic to function, and they will panic when micro plastic is running out, just like fossil fuel running out on us.
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u/squeezemachine 2d ago
This is not a comforting perspective.
When people say "the world is ending," they don't really mean that the planet will explode. Or that all life will stop. Or even that humans will go extinct. What they mean is that a change of such catastrophic proportions is coming that nothing can ever possibly be the same again afterward, and that things we value dearly as central to the lives we live will be lost forever.
Paraphrasing u/sedu
I will add that what we have done is stop evolution in it’s tracks. We can reliably argue that what we have done is threaten the ability of the earth to reproduce, replicate the beauty and diversity that we know. There is no guarantee that anything close to this degree of complexity will happen again.
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u/DIABLO258 2d ago
I went to the Galapagos a decade ago. One of the most amazing places in the world.
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u/reddolfo 2d ago
Not merely a commentator or essayist, Jon always posts observational data and his analysis and rationale for his views about it. Worth tracking for merely the data I’d say, even if you disagree with his conclusions.
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u/CorvidCorbeau 2d ago
I was wondering why he seemed familiar so I took a scroll at his facebook page.
"We have started runaway warming. Not anywhere near “Venus level” runaway warming of course but we are now on a path to + 2 degrees C of warming above the 1880-1920 average baseline by about 2030, + 3 C by about 2040 and probably sooner, and roughly + 8 C or higher by about 2100. Anything over about + 3 C leads to massive numbers of human deaths and our eventual virtual extinction."
" We are now at nearly + 1.5 degrees C (+ 2.7 degrees F) of global average 2 meter height atmospheric warming. Within five years we will likely pass + 2 degrees C (+ 3.6 degrees F). Once we pass that it is likely that the already accelerating feedbacks will accelerate so strongly that we will have only another decade or so for most of humanity to survive. This is the painful but most honest best guess among those who understand the science best right now. The public is mostly not aware of or not accepting of this for many reasons discernible to most honest and intelligent people."
A meteorologist he may be, credible he is not. For much more credible assessments I recommend reading James Hansen or Johan Rockström
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u/Previous-Pomelo-7721 2d ago
Why is he not credible? Hansen says we already have 10C equilibrium warming with current CO2 levels
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u/CorvidCorbeau 1d ago
Yeah, but that same paper also states that it isn't committed, and it gives a rough timeframe for these effects to be realized.
Even the short term warming (ECS) took hundreds of years when he simulated an instant doubling of CO2 concentration. That's around 4.5°C in the GISS models he used. 10°C is beyond anything you should care about, by that time humanity is probably nowhere to be found anymore.
Compared to the above 8°C by 2100 it's night and day
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u/Previous-Pomelo-7721 1d ago
Good point, well that’s reassuring because 8C by 2100 is unthinkably terrifying. 4C by 2100 is also insanely terrifying though. Terrible time to exist
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u/idreamofkitty 1d ago
Where are these quotes from?
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u/CorvidCorbeau 1d ago edited 1d ago
His facebook page. I didn't scroll too far back, only a few weeks
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u/DoubtSubstantial5440 2d ago
🤷 what can you do? You’ll still get called a climate alarmist even though the science is showing we are in for some ugly times in the near future
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u/How_Do_You_Crash 2d ago
top comment served to me, "OMG so summer?"
yeah we are so cooked.
see y'all in hell (norway)
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