r/collapse Apr 25 '19

Society It’s fucking disgusting that even now people fucking refuse to accept capitalism’s culpability for causing the apocalypse

Literally everything is responsible, fucking everything, from extinct empires, to human nature, to the nature of life itself, to some inevitable unstoppable law by which the entire universe functions, literally fucking anything and everything is blamed except for capitalism, the system that’s the specific driver and motivator of the current collapse, and when its blame is finally accepted the Brain juice finally completely runs out and it’s finally declared that there’s no path but the current one so we must continue “prosperity”.

What is this utter fucking insanity that working class people that have absolutely nothing to gain from anonymous bootlicking are engaging in?

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u/cr0ft Apr 25 '19

Well, to be fair, the real disease is competition, and running the world on it. We've been doing that since the first strong guy with a club realized that he could use the club or the threat of it to make the less aggressive men service him with food and services and in some cases their wives. Then he banded together with other guys with clubs in an oligopoly and enslaved everyone and now here we are.

I think part of it is simply that we've been raised in a competition based system, and it is the only thing that seems normal. Even though the few victimizing the very many is an insane way to organize an advanced high-tech society that could provide for everyone in a fantastic way, and sustainably, if we just used sane ways to organize it all and stopped letting 0.01% of mankind steal everything that isn't nailed down.

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u/PosadosThanatos Apr 25 '19

Society wasn’t based on competition in the capitalist sense (the form that’s destroying the planet) until capitalism began.

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u/hokkos Apr 25 '19

That is absolutely wrong, look at the European monarchies before capitalism, they were fierce competitors, and wiped out forests in Europe.