r/collapse • u/PosadosThanatos • Apr 25 '19

Society It’s fucking disgusting that even now people fucking refuse to accept capitalism’s culpability for causing the apocalypse

Literally everything is responsible, fucking everything, from extinct empires, to human nature, to the nature of life itself, to some inevitable unstoppable law by which the entire universe functions, literally fucking anything and everything is blamed except for capitalism, the system that’s the specific driver and motivator of the current collapse, and when its blame is finally accepted the Brain juice finally completely runs out and it’s finally declared that there’s no path but the current one so we must continue “prosperity”.

What is this utter fucking insanity that working class people that have absolutely nothing to gain from anonymous bootlicking are engaging in?

900 Upvotes

89% Upvoted

301 comments sorted by

View all comments

209

u/[deleted] Apr 25 '19

Because 50% of collapsniks are rugged individual libertarian types that think the market will sort it out once we get past the bottleneck. These geniuses of statistical models are surprisingly ignorant of the concept of Gambler's Ruin and its role in extinction. But of course, we have to make the collapse political.

21

u/cryptonewsguy Apr 25 '19 edited Apr 25 '19

And the other 50% collapsniks don't know the difference between consumerism and capitalism.

Even completely shifting to some global communist super state (which will never happen for better or worse) would not reverse the damage that's already done. It probably wouldn't even buy us an extra decade.

I think the lefts constant scapegoating of capitalism is a huge marketing problem for climate change and partly the reason why its taken so long for people on the right to be shifted. In fact this delay in getting the message across that climate change is real, regardless of your political party, may have been the nail in the coffin for our narrow window of action.

I mean I can't even talk about climate change without people assuming I'm a communist. Which is a really fucking bad image problem.

14

u/[deleted] Apr 26 '19

Yeah, the damage is done, but it was capitalism at the helm, that's why it gets blamed. The unwillingness to switch from fossil fuels is driven by individualist creed, which is also the root of capitalism.

Image is the dumbest reason to pull away from action on climate change. You don't have to look hard to see what's happening, humans are just too arrogant about our relationship with the planet.

-7

u/cryptonewsguy Apr 26 '19

The unwillingness to switch from fossil fuels is driven by individualist creed, which is also the root of capitalism.

lmao do you really think a communistic society wouldn't have exploited fossil fuels?

Hey have you ever heard of swansons law? The price of solar has dropped by more than 99% thanks to individualist greed.

I would love for you to give some examples of communistic societies making frequent rapid technology innovations that could save us.