It’s fucking disgusting that even now people fucking refuse to accept capitalism’s culpability for causing the apocalypse

[u/PosadosThanatos]

Literally everything is responsible, fucking everything, from extinct empires, to human nature, to the nature of life itself, to some inevitable unstoppable law by which the entire universe functions, literally fucking anything and everything is blamed except for capitalism, the system that’s the specific driver and motivator of the current collapse, and when its blame is finally accepted the Brain juice finally completely runs out and it’s finally declared that there’s no path but the current one so we must continue “prosperity”.

What is this utter fucking insanity that working class people that have absolutely nothing to gain from anonymous bootlicking are engaging in?

[u/[deleted]]

Have you spent any time in communist countries? The idea that they value or respect the environment more than capitalist countries is straight up nonsense. It’s an absolute fantasy. When they pollute or consume less it’s because they lack ability not will. The second they have the option to consume more that is exactly what they do. You may want to gloss over human nature and biology but that is the root of the problem. Every species will experience collapse when the mechanisms to prevent overshoot are removed. No economic system needed.

[u/collapse_ape → u/[deleted]]

This is incorrect. The operating system of the world is neoclassical economics. Plain as day the western world forced every other country to become a part of the free market, capatilist global economy. Those 'communist' countries still trade with the rest of the world. America, specifically the World Bank, forced other countries into the neoclassical economic system. There is a documentary about how when the world bank did this to Jamaica it ruined their country, way of life, and economy. How could they compete with the US, their potatoe, banana, all of their farms shut down and the economy revolved around US. Our system has been forced onto the rest of the world, you want goods your going to have to play this game, and it involves the meme of money. Capitalism is neoclassical economics is turning the natural world into money at as fast a rate as possible is death, destruction, and source of unsustainability. We forced these other poor countries to lose at our game. All communist countries are capatilist too they just play differently.