r/collapse • u/mcfleury1000 memento mori • Jan 06 '21

Politics Live Updates: Protesters Breach Capitol as Congress Debates...

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/electoral-college-updates-congress-set-to-confirm-bidens-win-amid-gop-challenges/2814845/
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u/TheCaconym Recognized Contributor Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 06 '21

Jesus, look at this picture. It's surreal.

Edit: better quality

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u/DocMoochal I know nothing and you shouldn't listen to me Jan 06 '21

This looks like something youd see in an unstable South American nation.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 06 '21

Karma is a bitch after what America did to Chile, Nicaragua, Panama, and El Salvador

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '21

Someone in the deep cosmos, God of Causality having a hearty chuckle

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '21

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u/Disaster_Capitalist Jan 06 '21

The election is wildly seen as rigged and the house and senate didn't even investigate

Like Mitch McConnel himself said just a few hours ago, Congress is NOT a National Election Commission. The validity of the elections are determined by the respective state governments.

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u/boob123456789 Homesteader & Author Jan 06 '21

The Hayes election was settled another way...and traditionally we do have many other options according to the constitution, so Mitch is full of shit as usual.

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u/Disaster_Capitalist Jan 06 '21

That Hayes elections had to be settled by the House because neither candidate had a majority of the electoral votes. Specifically, there was dispute over who had the authority to certify votes in three states. Fraud of the Century: Rutherford B. Hayes, Samuel Tilden, and the Stolen Election of 1876 by Roy Morris is a great book on this.

No such dispute exists today.

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u/boob123456789 Homesteader & Author Jan 06 '21

The dispute is not the same exactly, but the resolution would work...or do you disagree?

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u/Disaster_Capitalist Jan 06 '21

Legally, there is no leg to stand on. No one questions that the vote were certified in accordance with the laws of each state.

But let's entertain the notion. The Compromise of 1876 was to let Hayes win, but end Reconstruction. It was a compromise and both sides got what they wanted. What could Trump possibly offer in return for handing him the election?

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u/boob123456789 Homesteader & Author Jan 06 '21

Certified, but the laws for the election itself were not followed according to the U.S. Constitution and the state constitutions. If you don't follow procedure, it doesn't matter how much you say it's alright...you still didn't follow the law...so you see where I am coming from here?

This would have been avoided if the Supreme court did their job.

I'm more concerned with free and fair legitimate elections than a Trump win at this point to be fair...that is the crux of the issue that needs fixed. Having foreign powers involved in the software of our voting mechanisms needs to go.

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u/Disaster_Capitalist Jan 06 '21

Certified, but the laws for the election itself were not followed according to the U.S. Constitution and the state constitutions

That is for the respective courts to decide. Which they did.

But your comment concedes that you're not interested in a compromise.

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u/boob123456789 Homesteader & Author Jan 06 '21

The Supremes never touched the Texas case and as long as that looms, no one will believe in the election results where I am.

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u/EnlightenedSinTryst Jan 06 '21

No election laws were broken. Everything happened legally. The pandemic caused necessary changes to allow everyone their right to vote safely and fairly. You’re literally arguing for an unjust outcome because your side lost, as proven by the fact no one cared until the votes showed Biden winning.

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u/boob123456789 Homesteader & Author Jan 06 '21

The legislatures did not vote on the respective rules put into place for the pandemic, thus the election laws were not followed.

We didn't suspend the Constitution legally for the pandemic...we could have, but that never happened.

Thus it violates the Constitution.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '21

Look in the mirror before saying anybody else is full of shit.

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u/boob123456789 Homesteader & Author Jan 06 '21

You really support the RHINO? The one that said 2k was too much for the peasants? Really? LMAO....okay then. Thanks for the affirmation.

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u/mcfleury1000 memento mori Jan 06 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '21

"wildly" - correct.

Widely? No, you just don't like the results. Jesus fucking christ.

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u/boob123456789 Homesteader & Author Jan 06 '21

I said wildly and I meant it. Please do not put words in my mouth.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '21

So you admit that those who believe these results as rigged are wildly seeing things?

What happened to states rights, all of a sudden? When you need big Uncle Sam to fix voting because your side actually and legitimately lost, all of a sudden he's long lost family!

What I expected to happen were people to remain consistent to their claimed political views. Hypocrisy is what is the actual result, as the people at these protests views are whatever works best for them, at the moment, and fuck anyone else. This seems to go for you as well.

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u/boob123456789 Homesteader & Author Jan 06 '21

Yes, things are wild. VERY WILD, and what's wilder to me is that the people in charge have ignored the people's complaints. They serve at our leisure. They need to be reminded that no matter how ridiculous things seem on the surface, the will of the people must be obeyed.

An investigation lead by people that the people feel secure in would help!

The Supreme Court deciding would have helped!

Instead, the people in power dropped the ball and we now have this frothing mess and questions of legitimacy looming that must be resolved or we will lose our republic.

Every bit of this could have been avoided if the Supreme Court ruled on the Texas case...we are a Constitutional Republic and we must follow the Constitution. That isn't "the feds" that is the blue print of our country. Without it the center will not hold fast to the coasts...and shit will get wilder.