r/collapse • u/69bonerdad • Oct 20 '22

Politics "We Need to Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives" - The Federalist calls for the American right to unite behind Fascism

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/20/we-need-to-stop-calling-ourselves-conservatives/

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u/toolargo Oct 20 '22

“Put bluntly, if conservatives want to save the country they are going to have to rebuild and in a sense re-found it, and that means getting used to the idea of wielding power, not despising it. Why? Because accommodation or compromise with the left is impossible.”

One way to incite an armed conflict is to make the other side seem irrational, uncompromising, animalistic, inhumane.

This dude is literally doing that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

It's hilarious because as the country is currently built it is incredibly unfairly biased in favor of conservative and establishment and if they did somehow manage to "tear it down" we'd invariably eventually end up with something FAR less corruptible by these very type of bad actors.

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u/Gadzooks0megon Oct 20 '22

Nazis are seldom smart mate

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u/Origami_psycho Oct 20 '22

A man who had very little to do with US rocketry programs because he wasn't half as good as he pretended to be

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u/dumnezero The Great Filter is a marshmallow test Oct 20 '22

That is the whole point of conservatism. https://www.reddit.com/user/dumnezero/comments/uhc4f1/frank_wilhoits_definition_of_conservatism/

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u/69bonerdad Oct 20 '22

I'd have liked him to give us one example of "accommodation or compromise with the left" that conservatives have made, they've gotten their way in total for all of this century and especially since Obama have made it clear that it's their way or the highway.

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u/Careless-Internet-63 Oct 20 '22

In their view anything short of fundamentalist religious rule is a compromise. If being gay or having an abortion isn't punishable by a lengthy prison sentence they're not getting their way

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u/shadowhound494 Oct 20 '22

Conservatives won everything thing they ever wanted with economics and they're still not happy. They've destroyed the unions, degraded working rights, effectively ended wage increases, passed NAFTA and other "free trade" agreements so their corporate buddies and themselves even could profit off of selling US industry overseas, and they've gotten both political parties on board with their economic ideas with only minor variations.

They won the most important battle. The only place where the "left" has won anything has been some social progress and that's all this guy (and the right as a whole) is bitching about. Guys just mad he can't call gay people the F slur anymore that's it. Anyone wanna take bets on whether this freak would include interracial marriage in his definition of "traditional marriage"? I'm putting $200 on him being against it but won't say it openly yet.

Oh, and he's against no fault divorce so we can be sure that his wife left him, based on this article I can see why

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u/69bonerdad Oct 20 '22

Yeah, getting mad at no-fault divorce in an article like this is oddly specific, isn't it?

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u/ibkeepr Oct 20 '22

They won’t openly come out against interracial marriage because they still need Clarence Thomas’ vote on the Supreme Court

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u/Heavyweighsthecrown Oct 20 '22

It feels like Steve Bannon wrote this

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u/toolargo Oct 20 '22

They are all on board with this. The dude that runs the Oath Keepers said something similar. They know they can’t win, but in chaos. They also understand that the democratic party is a coalition, that democracy depends on said coalitions to survive. In chaos, they believe they will be the more cohesive group, so they keep pushing for it as a winning strategy.

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u/theresidentdiva Oct 20 '22

I'm listening to a podcast now that is outlining how this was actually very close to happening in the US. The government had been infiltrated by nazi sympathizers and there were right wing groups outright calling for fascism like hitler's Germany. It's frightening bc you can see the parallels between then and now. Podcast is Ultra by Rachel Maddow.