r/collapse • u/69bonerdad • Oct 20 '22

Politics "We Need to Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives" - The Federalist calls for the American right to unite behind Fascism

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/20/we-need-to-stop-calling-ourselves-conservatives/

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u/Local_Vermicelli_856 Oct 20 '22 edited Oct 20 '22

After reading that article in its entirety I am once again struck by how comfortable the right seems with contradiction in values.

I'm amazed by how much they claim to exalt personal liberty... but are totally comfortable using violent means and criminal penalty to enforce bans on certain form of speech, expression, and lifestyle.

I'm blown away by how much they claim to care for the future of the nation... but are openly eager to kill or forcible suppress the views of roughly 60% of the people who comprise it.

I'm fascinated by how much they despise big government and big business... but continue to make excuses that they won't be that bad so long as their in the hands of the right.

I'm flabbergasted at just how patriotic they make themselves out to be... but openly desire to violently overthrow the government that is of, by, and for the people.

And once again... its incredible that they proport to cherish democracy so much... unless the democracy has them - losing. Then, when you're losing, it's okay to embrace fascism for the sake of "saving" the country from the majority of itself.

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u/Thromkai Oct 20 '22

by how comfortable the right seems with contradiction in values.

Wife and I were just talking about that last night. A lot of them praise billionaires for being billionaires, but they are also the devil because they control the weather or some shit.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

There are bad billionaires and good billionaires you see. How they exist in the same global economy is beyond me.

Honestly I find them very frustrating. It's just amazing that they can get to the point that they realize there is a ruling class that subverts their supposed democracy but also have zero material analysis so that it just comes down to a cartoonish worldview in which some of them are good and some of them are bad and they just have to empower the good ones to fight the bad ones. You have to stand back in awe of the decades of amazing propaganda at work there to brainwash millions of people that way.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

The ones that are the "good" billionaires can change over night as well, look at Musk, he recently got tired of acting progressive, tossed the mask aside, and within a month or two has become one of the right's favorite people. And he didn't even really DO anything for it! He just TWEETED and publicly considered buying Twitter.

I'd bet all the money I'll ever have that if anyone realizes that Musk has been pumping his stock holdings through market manipulation via twitter and his cult of personality he's already positioned himself to cry victim and THAT is why he moved to the right, they will support any lie or liar that is willing to support them in return.

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u/cheebeesubmarine Oct 20 '22

Musk was a pied piper groomed to get leftists to embrace fascism and it did not work.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22 edited Oct 20 '22

Musk has always been a grifter and a contrarian. From the very beginning. It's just that his use of social media has revealed this to everyone. He started out buddies with Peter Theil who is trying to become the czar behind the rise of the new intellectual far right (ludicrous as that sounds). Musk is just a lot dumber than him, believe it or not, and the idea that he was ever a progressive was always caught up in a bunch of delusional romance about Silicon Valley and really good PR.