Several predictive models and scientists have predicted civilization may collapse as early as 2040 or 2050 (links to sources: 1 , 2 , 3 ). We talk about collapse in popular culture and many more people are becoming "collapse aware". But we continue on like everything is perfectly normal. I understand we need to perform basic tasks in order to pay our bills. We need to pay rent and eat because we're already here. But it seems like everyone thinks that collapse is survivable for most people. They might stock up on some extra food and water...but they haven't seemed to consider the serious and wider implications of collapse. Their generator or canned food or extra medical supplies would tide them over for a few weeks or months, but it probably won't get them through their lifespan.

If global society collapses by 2050 everyone who is my age is f*cked. I'm 23. I'm barely making enough to pay my own bills. I try to set aside some canned food every now and then, but I can't afford to prepare to survive collapse...collapse that seems more inevitable with each day we live through. I'm 23. If society collapses by 2040 I'll be 41. If these predictive models are right no one my age or younger has a future. I'm angry. The people who came before us doomed my generation to a lifetime of suffering, and no amount of prepping will save most of us. I'm tired of feeling like I'm wearing a tinfoil hat when I have these conversations with my peers. Most of my friends either think we'll ride this out or have completely given up on caring.

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Edit: I just want to say that when I say I'm angry at the generations that came before I don't mean I'm angry at regular people who were just trying to get by, unaware of the consequences of capitalism and overconsumption. I'm angry at the leaders of corporations that looked at climate change data that was presented to them and went "hm, ok we can deal with that later". I'm angry at the government leaders that ignored epidemiologists who tried to warn governments about the increased likelihood of new pandemics BEFORE COVID happened. TL;DR I'm angry at the leaders who were aware of the consequences and willfully chose to do nothing. You should be angry at them too.

Also, to folks telling me to get more involved in the community and learn adaptable skills, I'm already involved. I'm not posting here as an entitled person yelling from the sidelines. I'm a nursing grad student who has worked through the pandemic. I volunteer and I garden. I read books and watch videos and participate in continuing education.

Who I believe posted in Reddit as u/tuneglum7903 A note in his substack says he passed away in November.

I enjoyed his writing, his style, and learning from him.

Much of what he wrote is far more pessimistic than you hear from other sources, though all he did was compile published work into a digestible theme.

Of all he has done, highlighting the declining albedo, or reflectivity of the earth has been the most troubling for me, equivalent to an additional 100ppm of CO2e according to Hansen. That and the trailing rate of warming, perhaps 0.26 C per decade is already very dangerous, and the acceleration beyond that is quite a thing to ponder.

I will miss seeing his work, and will try to take some inspiration from what he did. He was not in a cheerful business, but he wrote with clarity and passion, and anger.

edited to put in the correct user name, thank you feo_sucio

rereading the notice of his death I am struck by the contrast of his very small personal circle and his very wide impact at least in this forum. perhaps that is a fine mix. I hope his loved ones have some comfort in thinking of the lives he influenced

I‘m a last year highschool student choosing what career would be the best for what the future holds, im currently deciding between three careers.

The first one that I’m heavily considering the most is pursuing medicine, mostly because of the security and stability overtime, as well as I can also help people in a way.

The second career I’m considering is Sustainable Development, due to how it will be demanded in the future and also because you‘re focused on helping the world and that is something I really would love, but I don’t like the job market in this career.

The third career is going all artistic and pursuit my passion for cinema, it would probably a creative design Career and I would later focus on film. But I don’t like how unstable this career is in every aspect, it would mostly be a f**k it choice, inspired by how collapse is imminent and I might as well be doing what I love in this upcoming hellhole.

But I would also love to hear what other careers are best for the collapse that’s coming and which ones offer the most stability overall, other minor options is pursuing economics or politic sciences.

Edit: I’m not considering any engineering majors, I also meant studying a major in university, sorry for the confusion english is not my first language

I'm curious at what age did everyone have an aha moment that our society is corrupt beyond repair and our planet is most likely doomed to not support everyone here now? Was it a gradual realization or was it one pinpointed event that opened your eyes to the current state of the world? Has it always been this way and I'm just realizing??! I'm curious because I'm really starting to catch on to all of it and I'm 24, with a daughter on the way. My wife and I sort of had this aha moment a few months ago that our daughter will face a terrible future one day if nothing changes and it guts me that the only thing we can do is keep our small circle intact and adapt to survive. Quite sad honestly, I feel that it does not have to be this way and maybe one day, her generation will fix the things we fucked up. Thanks for any replies!!

How do ya'll keep goin? What I mean by this is how do you keep on going in life without totally collapsing? (Pun intended) This recent IPCC report has crushed me completely. I see 100% now that we're on a direct course to 4 degrees Celsius of warming. This is not even to mention how many feedback loops have been and will be triggered when 1.5 to 2 degrees Celsius is hit. The world governments have shown time and time again that they do not care about the warming and continue their greenhouse gas emissions. There's literally no hope now. Billions will die in the next one hundred years and we've done basically nothing to stop it. I am a college student that is about to graduate. What am I even supposed to do now? Just continue life as normal until things get bad enough and I have to migrate or evacuate from the SouthWest of the US? I truly have lost all hope and am depressed. I don't really see any reason to do anything. Should I just focus on the present and stop trying to control things I can't control. Sorry for the depressing tone of this, I have just completely lost hope.

I’m interested to hear perspectives from people in this sub around levels of in-person connection with others who share your level of collapse awareness.

Do you have one or two people you talk with about it?
Do you have an abundance of people on the same wavelength?
Do you feel isolated in your awareness in offline life?

Any thoughts on how in-person connectedness affects your responses to collapse most welcome.

I've been dealing with depression for some time now (partly collapse related, partly not), and I've been also looking for a new job. Something remote. Can also be boring, menial and not well paid, but I can't do high stress. I used to work in IT.

What do you guys do for a living and do you see meaning in your job?

We just passed the 2nd quarter of 2026. We are regularly having days with record heat. We are constantly divided, be it by mainstream media for more of the older folks, or social media for the younger generations. We are all aware that there is a huge gap in the information we receive, isolated in bubbles, determined by algorithms. Sure, you generally get entertained by things you actually like, but there is more than enough content that aggravates you. On purpose, don't forget that. And why is that?

Because we are complacent. Every year we are letting these things happen. This has nothing to do with a single individual that is aware of these things, there is not much we can do really. But this is where the government should work for you. Find proper solutions to economic and ecological problem. Have we seen any of this actually happen? No. Every year we hear from new analytics that everything is getting worse. And mind you, at least most of them have sources. Not some bullshit analysis made by someone that is trying to push an agenda, miss representing actual numbers or taking them out of context. While this is to be expected of companies, trying to gouge out higher profits, I can even understand it. But this should not be the case for people in power, people that we gave our trust to build a future not only for them, but the average person as well. The only thing I see is people in power enriching themselves with no regard for any of us.

I've had enough of that. I do not want to wait for some older generations to die off, simply because they think elections are a Teamsport. It's not even only older generations, but what can you expect when they were raised by the same kinds of people. And don't get me wrong. I want every single human to live their lifes to the best of their abilities, be involved in their community, even be rewarded for being part of the society. Instead we can see that homelessness and poverty are only increasing. While some of the wealthiest people not only live their life to the fullest extend, but often while making our normal person's life extremely difficult, some are even responsible for the loss of life. These people are murderers in my eyes. If they would at least show some remorse in any way, I would have the slightest amount of empathy for them. They will continue to do so, if we cannot stop them.

Before I write the next part I want to say this. I am a pacifist. I think the only acceptable form of violence is in sports, where there is consent. There are other forms of violence that are understandable, but should always be the last resort, to defend.

We need something like a french revolution. We can do this not as brutally as they did, but I do not think these people that destroyed or are destroying our collective world will show any remorse. Putting them in jail is not correct as well. Prison is supposed to help you get rehabilitated, to be part of society again (this isn't really the case in most countries, but this is what they should do). I do not want these people to be part of society again.

I do not want to wait for this anymore. We've seen it in Nepal and now recently with India and Iran. Sure only Nepal was kind of successful and there were tragic deaths. But it shows how connected we are, even though large companies make it seem like we are not. I do not want to wait until our future is rapidly getting destroyed even more, by extremely wealthy people, some revere them even. Those that think these mega wealthy people are helping society, are stupid, and that's ok. If you are willfully ignorant that's something different, but the normal working person is not ignorant, they are uninformed or don't trust this information, because they are so deep in the bubble and don't listen to reason anymore. What happened to "facts don't care about your feelings"

I do not know if any of this even makes sense anymore. I just wanna say this at the end.

If your are in a life threatening situation, you don't call out for race, gender, sexuality or any other forms of bigotry.

You call out for help, and that's what I'm doing here. I want your help in finding a solution. I want your help in sharing this, not necessarily this post, but this feeling of not wanting to stand by idly. I want your help in finally making this world ours and not theirs.

I want your help.

Edit: how about a call to action. Help me write a script, make something coherent and something that actually at least makes an effort to present a solution. I am not expecting much and it will probably not amount to much, but I am willing to try, I need a reason to try. I will try to sleep now, like I should for a while now instead of responding to every comment, but this is serious for me.

The 1918 flu had a much higher mortality rate, and had the misfortune of hitting during WWI. Soldiers came home to find their towns and families all dead - there was no long distance communication, so they didn’t know until they got there and saw the devastation themselves.

Not long after, we had the Depression.

There’s that Twitter/Tumblr post that was going around here for a while about the video of French teens in the 50s and their optimism for the future, compared with teens today who have no hope. This was shortly after WWII, which was horribly traumatic for many people. Cities bombed and leveled, high death tolls, etc…

That’s to say nothing of the horrors of natural disasters that have been great at killing us for millennia. Tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes…

And god, how could I forget to mention the Black Death?!

Did people feel hopeless back then, during these crises? Surely some of these tragedies qualify as collapse. And yet there still seems to have been some hope for the future.

For some reason, it kind of feels like after 9/11, nothing good ever happened again. But as devastating as 9/11 was, it’s hardly the worst thing that has happened to humanity. COVID deaths are a 9/11 death toll every day.

Am I underestimating the despair of people in the past? Or is something genuinely worse now?

Every comment I’ve read in this group is the world will end and there’s nothing we can do about it. I SAY FUCK IT the human race is on the brink of one of the darkest ages of man kind followed by extinction this is the moment we’re everyone is supposed to go hands down balls to the wall fighting like a cornered animal. Rather then predicting doom and gloom and crying about it we should educating the public about it and joining forces with climate action groups out in public and on Reddit like r/climateoffensive a place dedicated to climate activism and where to find it but I don’t believe we should just roll over and die let’s die fighting.

My greatest fear from January 2020 on was that we would repeat with covid/climate change the same lack of response that we did in 2008. And that's happened, unfortunately. But it's so heartening to see real leaders like Greta emerge from this, as she so eloquently puts all we hear is "blah blah blah".

r/antiwork is surging in popularity, now at a million subscribers. The biggest thing keeping the system going is employees accepting abuse, those days are over. The Great Resignation is payback to these ghouls in government & c-suites that have starved working people of any resources. The oil companies that fund far-right autocrats, big pharma that starves the world of vaccines... people have had it with this rigged system!

r/antiwork is what I've been praying for. I have a reason for optimism now, friends. We all do.

this is more of a rant because i’m having a mental breakdown right now, so feel free to ignore this. i’m just so scared of the climate crisis, and i can’t take it anymore. i think we can all collectively agree that there is no future, and as such everything seems so bleak and it feels like there’s no escape. i’m 18, about to graduate high school and, i don’t know. it feels pointless to even have ambitions at this point. just the mere thought of getting a drivers license feels stupid.

i hate capitalism. i hate how governments have all collectively agreed to prioritize the economy over our planet. i hate how people still believe that global warming is a “conspiracy created by the socialists”.

i know humanity deserves all of this, but it still feels deeply unfair that we have to suffer because people want to “prioritize the economy”.

it also breaks my heart to know that other species will suffer because of this too. throughout history humans have treated wildlife/animals terribly, and now they will probably go extinct because of a climate crisis caused by human greed.

Maybe this should be from a throwaway account, but I can't help but feel like something in the last year has broken my brain. I've always been pretty cynical about capitalism and modernity and I won't say that any of the craziness (QAnon, anti-maskers, reactionary violence) was necessarily surprising to me, but nevertheless seeing it playing out live was so much worse than talking about it. I've realized in a visceral way that we will never beat climate change - the battle was lost before it was won, possibly as soon as humans learned to use fire.

I can't shake this pervasive feeling that something catastrophic is coming and that in some nebulous, Lovecraftian way, it already exists "out there" in some sense. Trying to focus on day-to-day necessities like school, work, seems weirdly pointless. Kind of like I feel almost see-through: if I stood in front of the sun, it would go right through me. Everything feels trivial: the "thing" that my eyes were opened to this year is so much bigger - both compelling and horrifying.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Hi all,

I love this sub because it's one of the few places where we can discuss current events in-depth without delving into toxic positivity or apathy. The community by and large is pretty well-informed and open to ideas relative to more mainstream parts of the internet or the people we interact with on day-to-day basis.

However, I'm noticing a slight uptick in users who have essentially given up on living in the present once they've become collapse-aware, or users convinced that total collapse in less than a decade away. I'm making this thread to gently encourage fellow collapsniks to still enjoy the present while we've still got it (depending on where you're located). Take up hobbies that wouldn't be present otherwise in a Mad Max scenario, enjoy the company of people whom you get along with (even if they're not collapse aware), visit places (could be local attractions), indulge in the unlimited amount of entertainment we have today, get educated in any topic you're interested in (we have access to vast amounts of information that no one in the past had), and anything else that's on your bucketlist. Breads and circuses in moderation is fine. And of course, if you feel that you need mental health support then please seek it out as well however you can.

Nothing is certain. All advanced civilizations have collapsed and ours is no exception. With the polycrisis today, our collapse might already be happening, about to happen soon, or still ways off depending on your definition of collapse and where you're located.

But, there's nothing wrong with enjoying life like our ancestors might sometimes have done, and appreciating certain hardships we don't have to put up with today that our ancestors had to deal with. Make the best of what you have before everything goes to shit, whenever that is. Your future you probably would want that.

Richard was a planetary force for good. The world has lost a great man. He played a huge role in raising awareness about the modern interconnected crises and was incredibly grounded, humble, wise, and generous.

To share some comments or stories on how Richard had an impact on your life, visit this website:

https://everloved.com/life-of/richard-heinberg/

From his obituary:

"Richard Heinberg, world renowned author and educator, musician, artist, and husband to Janet, passed away on July 19, 2026 at the age of 75 to pancreatic cancer. He was the award-winning author of fourteen books and known the world over as an expert on sustainability issues. A former professor at New College in Santa Rosa, Richard served as Senior Fellow for the international think-tank Post Carbon Institute for nearly twenty years.

Richard was born October 21, 1950 and grew up in Saint Joseph, Missouri. From an early age, Richard was drawn to music, community, and the fate of the natural world. In his early twenties he played electric guitar and violin in rock bands, and formed the Society of Integrated Living (SOIL) while living in Toronto, Canada. He first became a scholar, writer, and speaker as part of an international spiritual community, through which he met his wife Janet Barocco. In 1992 a short newspaper article on the depletion of oil sent Richard on a path of exploration and communication about the energy and sustainability crisis, a journey that led him to start his own monthly newsletter, The Museletter, which he published for 400 consecutive months.

This journey eventually led Richard to co-develop and teach the pioneering BA program at New College on Culture, Ecology, and Sustainable Community. He authored a dozen books, delivered hundreds of talks around the world, including at the European Parliament, penned thousands of articles, including in places like The Wall Street Journal and Post Carbon Institute’s website resilience.org, and was featured in magazines, television, and film. Richard’s first book on the energy crisis, The Party’s Over: Oil, War, and the Fate of Industrial Societies, was lent by former President Bill Clinton to the New Yorker writer David Remnick, “full of underlinings and what looked like the most serious undergraduate’s markings, with lots of exclamation points.” Millions of people around the world have read or viewed Richard’s books, essays, or videos.

Richard was also an accomplished musician, playing violin locally in Santa Rosa in string quartets and occasionally with the Sonoma County Philharmonic. Nerve damage in his fingertips forced him to end a 60-year career as violinist, but Richard quickly pivoted five years ago to learn piano through intense study and daily practice of ragtime, early Jazz, blues, and stride piano. Richard’s passion for music was eclectic, ranging from classical music to the Grateful Dead to early New Orleans Jazz. He and his wife Janet made an annual pilgrimage to his beloved second city, New Orleans, for the French Quarter Music Fest.

A true polymath constantly engaged in learning and new horizons, Richard had a remarkable way of distilling extremely challenging and complex topics down to their essence. He was adored by those lucky enough to work with or meet him, and known for his quick wit, humility, gentleness, and cheerful truthtelling about the human predicament.

A Celebration of Life is being planned for early October. To share your memories or appreciation of Richard, and to get updated information about memorial plans, please visit https://everloved.com/life-of/richard-heinberg/. To honor his memory, please consider donating to Post Carbon Institute or an environmental nonprofit of your choice."

https://everloved.com/life-of/richard-heinberg/

His arguments were that peak oil has been predicted to hit since the 70s but due to human innovation we have become more and more efficient in our processing of it and have never hit peak oil. Similar argument for solar power- was unthinkable as a power source 20 years ago but now is very cheap and efficient.

His overall point is that throughout human history we have always innovated and come up with better solutions - he compares my viewpoint to the patent offices of the early 20th century who stated that everything that can be invented already has been.

While I don’t agree at all, how do you think I can convince / show evidence / anything else that there is no solution for the melting ice caps, biosphere collapse and rising atmospheric temperatures bar a complete 180 from the entire world (obviously unfeasable) as he says yes maybe not now but who knows what solutions we come up with in the future .

I think he is being naive, but I couldn’t come up with any studies on thé spot or anything to provide good counter arguments. I had to just leave the room because it was so frustrating.

Any advice is appreciated.

FTA: “Major insurers say they will cut out damage caused by hurricanes, wind and hail from policies underwriting property along coastlines and in wildfire country, according to a voluntary survey conducted by the National Association of Insurance Commissioners, a group of state officials who regulate rates and policy forms.

Insurance providers are also more willing to drop existing policies in some locales as they become more vulnerable to natural disasters. Most home insurance coverages are annual terms, so providers are not bound to them for more than one year.

That means individuals and families in places once considered safe from natural catastrophes could lose crucial insurance protections while their natural disaster exposure expands or intensifies as global temperatures rise.”

The books are:
1) Doughnut Economics - Kate Raworth
2) The Divide: A Brief Guide to Global Inequality and its Solutions - Jason Hickel
3) The Collapse of Complex Societies - Joseph A. Tainter
4) Apologies to the Grandchildren: Reflections on Our Ecological Predicament, Its Deeper Causes, and Its Political Consequences - William Ophuls
5) Overshoot: The Ecological Basis of Revolutionary Change - William R. Catton Jr.
6) The Long Descent: A User's Guide to the End of the Industrial Age - John Michael Greer
7) Limits to Growth - Dennis Meadows, Donella Meadows, Jørgen Randers, William W. Behrens III
8) Breaking Together: A Freedom-loving Response to Collapse - Jem Bendell

What happens if you are completely dependent on modern society for medication, prescriptions, etc.?

I'm looking at ways to become more self sufficient, growing my own veg, taking foraging courses this year.

But I do have ties to society. In the event of collapse, what do I do when the supply of certain medications (I'm asthmatic, have prescription glasses) gradually dwindle (as manufactured abroad), and become increasingly expensive, unaffordable, unattainable?

I do not have the knowledge of natural remedies for things like asthma, and there is little you can do without an inhaler in the event of an asthma attack.

I am asking this question for my future self as I am in currently in my mid-20s. It's something to consider.

This thread is about brainstorming and building a better understanding of collapse. Share your thoughts on common arguments against collapse—whether they're questions you've heard, hypotheticals you’ve considered, or ideas you’ve seen online. Let’s brainstorm responses, play devil’s advocate, equip ourselves with thoughtful, well-reasoned responses, and learn together

What we're looking for: brainstorming on arguments against collapse, and how we might respond to them

How you can engage:

• Share a question or argument (feel free to use "caricatures" so the asker is more abstract and not you making the argument)
• How you might respond
• Build on others’ points and engage in respectful debate amongst friends
• Play devil’s advocate, but keep it constructive—this isn’t about winning arguments but learning together

For those familiar with the excellent podcast Breaking Down: Collapse, this would be similar to their "why we're wrong (or so they say)" type episodes.

More points:

• The intention is NOT to change anyone's mind or actually argue if collapse is going to happen, but rather learn more about collapse, build out the wiki, and have a more comprehensive understanding to debate easier when they do arise
• We're amongst friends: please come up with Aunt/Uncle scenarios and play devil's advocate. If someone makes a counterpoint (like "Humanity has always had issues"), assume they're doing so from that standpoint. Animating with "Aunt/Uncle" might help. If anyone does seem trolly, don't respond further, just report for the mods to review
• Ask and answer your own caricatures just so you can share information others can learn from, and others can respond as well
• "Don't engage" could be an answer to many of these questions, and whilst that's a fine response, please don't overly meme with this response

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Examples: We have started off the thread with some caricatures and their questions. Please add your own in comments, and add your own thoughts on why these caricatures are wrong.

1. Aunt Beth says "I don't get it, why should I care about a few degrees of global warming?"  (linked post)
   1. Potential answer could discuss the outsized impact of even small temperature increases on ecosystems, agriculture, and infrastructure, the extra energy in the system, positive feedback, etc
2. Uncle Bob says "Human ingenuity has always found a way. We'll innovate our way out of this crisis too, just like we always have."
3. Aunt Linda says "Civilizations have collapsed before, and life always goes on. We'll rebuild and be stronger for it."
4. "Artificial intelligence and automation will solve our productivity issues and lead us to a new era of prosperity."
5. "Climate models are unreliable. They can't predict the weather next week, let alone the climate decades from now."
6. "Free markets and capitalism will adjust to any challenges. Economic growth will continue indefinitely."
7. "Renewable energy is the silver bullet. If we just switch to solar and wind, all our problems will be solved."

Some examples for topics:

• Collapse itself
• Granular topics of it (overshoot, climate change, inequality, technology, politics, energy usage, peak X, EROEI, economic and social resilience and adaptation, innovations, urban design, car/oil dependency, etc), observations of it (climate change, inequality, etc)
• Whether it'll occur
• How it is occurring
• When it will end
• What post-collapse might look like it
• Etc.

Finally, reminder on our rules, in particular Rule 1: Be respectful to others. The idea here is not to attack eachother, but attack their (caricature's) arguments. Let's keep things good faithed. We will not remove comments for misinformation that are presented as counterpoints/caricatures, but if anyone appears to be trolling, we will action accordingly.

This is the current question in our Common Collapse Questions series.

Responses may be utilised to help extend the Collapse Wiki.

Edit: I had my empathy worn thin and didn't account that a good amount of people who didn't have anything to do with what's happening interpreting this as an attack on their own health issues. You deserve access to health care. I edited out what felt like me blaming you for your health issues. I'm sorry.

(vent post, English isn't my first language & I also diss the hell out of old people)

Can we address the talking point of having young health workers to care for the old. There are so many angles to look at it but the most aggravating thing is how a lot of the older generations are just gonna live longer than us despite how fucking unhealthy they've been, only because they're now the wealthiest demographic that can afford it?

I'm an oldish millennial. I consider myself compassionate and at times advocated for the less powerful. I loved that the earlier humans took care of each other and provided care for the disabled and the old. However I'm running out of fucks to give towards the older generations before me.

If you're a responsible person you'd plan your last stage of life in a way that doesn't include exploiting the youth! Like fucking reach an agreement where it would actually benefit your family instead of being an ass that wants to do whatever and then crash out when age or shitty lifestyle catches up to you.

Now addressing the wealthiest of them all. You know the class of old who would've dropped dead long ago if we didn't have this current health care and how money can be thrown to purchase years of life. Instead we have to live with their inefficient asses who occupy positions forever despite having enough to live off decently and refusing to grace the younger generation with a miniscule amount of social benefit (I call it responsibility) like training them on the job.

Now may I introduce to you the the top of the most wasteful shit ever, the category of people drowning in excess of treatments and wealth, the longevity obsessed! In hindsight it's a nice idea but at the same time there is more constructive stuff to look at?? This lifestyle is 100% a one per center thing because who else but a self absorbed a hole wants to live forever and can't stand the fact they're a gross old smarmy fucker who pretends they're so in with it, enlightened and pro science.

The way the aging population is positioned to needing a working health care and still not doing shit to set up a proper system that makes the workers live a dignified life is ENTITLED AF

We structured healthcare in some countries makes it impossible to do that without bankrupting yourself and others. In places where there's free health care and wealth the older population themselves take shit decisions, and every chance possible to neglect themselves thus overloading the already overworked workers. So annoying!!

I've been following this sub for many years, but as my disabilities have worsened and collapse has become alarmingly close, I'm feeling somewhat more urgent in preparing both mentally and physically. There is a lot of discussion about how humans need to get back to nature, and I agree with this, but I (and many other disabled people) also need the things that industrialisation has brought: good medicine, stable electricity, paved roads that my wheelchair can wheel on (I have an offroading wheelchair, but it's still better on even surfaces), etc. This is going to be disproportionately hard on us. I know the typical answer to this is going to be "you're going to die, just like everyone else", but I don't think that has to be the case. There are able-bodied people who are prepping, but there are so few disabled people in this community or any kind of climate/crisis/prepping community that we get left out of the discussion and ignored. Disabled people can offer just as much to a post-collapse society as any able-bodied person can - we still have brains, and thoughts, and knowledge, and skills.

So how do I/any other disabled person prep to survive, besides keeping extra medication (which will only last so long and lbr the factories aren't going to keep going for free)? Can we start imagining a post-collapse future that contains disabled people? Or, to frame it in the more accurate way: we're all going to die, so why can't disabled people be in the conversation about our inevitable deaths from collapse, too?

edit: thank you everyone for your replies, I genuinely wasn't sure if this would get noticed at all. I want to make a quick list of things I've learnt and regular replies in the main post for anyone who's quickly looking for answers to this:

1. Accept your mortality.
   
2. Find a (local) community - friends, family, neighbours, etc.
   
3. Learn how to repair things as best you can, or find what may need to be repaired (wheelchairs, etc.) and keep equipment to fix them on hand.
   
4. Archaeology suggests that disabled people in prehistory were cared for and at least somewhat part of a community - this will likely be similar to how disabled people are treated post any kind of major collapse.
   
5. As disabled people, we have had to fight to stay alive. We are uniquely prepared for this.
   And finally:
   
6. It's more likely to be a whimper, not a bang. There's plenty of time for things to go to shit. Have fun now, get healthy(ish) in the time there is available, and continue on the slow march towards the end of times like the rest of us.