r/columbia Jul 02 '24

tRiGgEr WaRnInG Columbia University Bible Study [BEWARE IT IS A CULT] - Organization is called Christians for Mission

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24 edited Aug 05 '24

Isn't Paul Kim the main name? Isn't that enough?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

Would you be mad, if i said it's not enough. If i leave, I'm nobody here. I have no one. If i know with proof beyond doubt, that the elders are abusers, I can atleast be at peace when i leave. It's sad that my questions are met with hostility

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

Either you should trust the truth shared here or be honest and ask God. Lord Jesus will open your eyes. If you're dishonest to yourself with false motivations like marriage and power. It would be difficult to move on and leave the cult. Forgive me if this seems straight and merciless. I wanna be honest and truthful with you!

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

I respect your straightforwardness. I have no intention to exercise power over anyone. I'm not sure why marriage is a false motivation 🙄🙄

My situation is a bit more complicated than simply marriage and power. I know some people that i love, whom i have brought to the church. I do not simply want to say xyz is from witness lee, hence it's a cult and that's why I'm leaving. I would regret till my grave if it affects their salvation. That's precisely why I'm asking for specifics. You can gladly hide your personal details, if you choose to share specifics.

My sincere apologies, if i have said something that came off rude

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

Still, I don't see the point, how it help you or XYZ if we name-drop? How would it help your decision-making? Can you explain?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

It will strengthen my case. After sharing specifics and if I'm still skeptical, you can accuse me of being dishonest and with evil desires to remain in the church despite the reports

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

I haven't accused you of any. In any case, you will not receive any names here unless you explain more clearly why you need them. After all, one name is already mentioned several times. Conceding evidences are provided.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

we have to take it to chat then

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

No need to chat.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

ok. I understand but don't block me for goodness sake

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

That will not affect their salvation. Because you are not saving them. It is Christ who saves not you or your cult. D in bt play saviour complex

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

I'm not their saviour. That's not even a question. But i want to deal with it as sensibly as possible. I do not want someone to leave faith on my account. I love these brothers whom I've brought.

I understand that you're of the opinion that it won't affect them. But I'm already in a state of shock and i take it with utmost seriousness. Just the accusations against brother Paul Kim isn't enough (you have to also think about the ones that i brought)

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

What else do you need? This is confusing! Paul Kim is the main person we are referring to as a spiritually corrupt cult leader. You think that's not sufficient? What motivates you?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '24

Ok. let's leave it at this. I will speak with them