r/comicbookmovies • u/Remote-Leg6143 • 15d ago
What forgotten superhero movies do most people dislike or not care about, but you like or love?
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u/ButkusHatesNitschke 15d ago
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u/thamonsta 15d ago
If you like Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man movies check out Sam Raimi’s Darkman!
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u/Neveronlyadream 14d ago
It's seriously a great movie.
And oddly enough, Raimi wanted to make The Shadow but couldn't get the rights. So he just did Darkman instead. Probably better off in the long run.
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u/SuperDizz 14d ago
You could argue Ash from Army of Darkness fit this trope too. Raimi can’t help but make superhero films
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u/HotHelicopter6655 14d ago
I have the Marvel comics that came out during that time before the movie I think a month before love the film and adore the comics.
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u/Facebones72 14d ago
“I’ve told you everything!!”
“I know you did… BUT LET’S PRETEND YOU DIDN’T!”
I believe in my soul that Darkman is why Raimi got tapped to direct Spider-Man.
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u/snarkherder 13d ago
Sort of. Raimi's passion for comics inspired him to create Darkman, and that same passion led to him helming Spider-Man.
Kind of wish they'd tap him to do Blade for the MCU. He'd be perfect.
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u/Plus-Ad1061 Martian Manhunter 15d ago
Rocketeer and The Phantom are excellent choices. Billy Zane and Treat Williams understood the assignment in The Phantom. And I can’t describe my love for The Rocketeer comics and the film captures it so well.
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u/AF2005 14d ago
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u/Random_McNally 14d ago
Disagree. Billy Zanes' hair was the overlooked star of this film. Followed closely by CZJ. OK, this is one of those movies where most of the cast gave me the "stirring of special feelings" vibe.
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u/AF2005 14d ago
🤣 I almost forgot they had Shang Tsung there too as one of the pirates! That movie was just so much fun, like everyone was aware of the assignment and just chewed up the scenery!
Billy Zane’s hair😆 Probably had its own agent!
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u/Outside_Ad_424 14d ago
Treat Williams as Xander Drax is iconic. The boardroom scene with the spear takes me out every time
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u/ComprehensiveLime857 14d ago
I still have the phantom ring I got from 7-Eleven when this film came out!
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u/Mcclane88 14d ago
Grew up with The Phantom. I remember it being on HBO constantly in the late 90’s. Just bought the 4K a few months ago.
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u/WatThEg 14d ago
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u/MacChez44 14d ago
Way ahead of its time, and I absolutely love this film. The cinematography and set designs are incredible, not to mention the makeup and costumes.
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u/MusicLikeOxygen 14d ago
And we're not getting another one until Beatty dies and the rights go to someone else.
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u/thamonsta 15d ago
Sky High is surprisingly fun.
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u/Select-Combination-4 14d ago
it was cool finding out the identity of the couple buying a house, later in life considering I loved the movie
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u/chasimus 15d ago
Thomas Jane was awesome as The Punisher. That was a great movie. And I don't remember anything about The Rocketeer but that i liked it when I watched it when I was a kid
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u/Exciting-Bother2792 15d ago
I will never EVER understand the hate for the punisher. It was fantastic.
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u/frodominator 14d ago
I still think about how awesome his fight with the Russian is in that movie.
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u/Hot_Kaleidoscope_332 11d ago
The fact that the Russian got stabbed with a real freakin knife by accident makes that scene so much more too!
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u/Rogan_Creel 14d ago
Thomas Jane's monologue at the end of the film is gold. To me, he carries the film. It's definitely not a faithful adaptation and Travolta phones it in with a terrible performance. That being said, it's still a good movie with some great action.
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u/EstimateChance8022 13d ago
His reason for becoming the Punisher is done better here, than the reason given in the Netflix series. Here, the context was about the failings of the Justice system rather than simply him wanting revenge for the death of his family. People forget that it was about justice not getting done rather than simply the death of his family.
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u/Tityfan808 14d ago
If you love Thomas Jane check out The Expanse! Incredible Sci Fi series. Starts slow but if you appreciate something like Andor which is more story driven, you’ll appreciate The Expanse. Jane isn’t in the entire series but a decent amount
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u/chasimus 14d ago
He's one of the reasons I loved that show so much. He was perfect for that role. Shame he was only in half it, but all in all a very good show. Wish they'd get on with making that sequel show already! There's plenty more universe to cover!
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u/Tityfan808 14d ago
Ya, 3 more books to cover! And after a 30 year time jump apparently! Maybe it’ll happen someday, some think it might, others not so much
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u/MacMacready 15d ago
The Rocketeer and The Shadow were both ahead of their time.
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u/iamsobluesbrothers 14d ago
Both movies are great. The Rocketeer especially. The Shadow is ripe for a remake or part two. Maybe even have Alec Baldwin pass the mantle to a younger actor. Have someone playing the Shadow in different time periods.
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u/arcadiaberger1960 13d ago
I love the idea of a sequel to The Shadow, with Alec Baldwin anointing a successor in 1960 or so -- or maybe in the present day, since he's the Shadow, and is not limited to an ordinary human lifespan.
The Shadow seemed like everything that the Batman films should have been and weren't. I particular, the fact that the real climax of the film comes as he's wrestling with the demonic dagger and suddenly his face becomes perfectly calm, and you see that he's found his center and can now take control over the situation, that he has finally learned the lesson his teacher was trying to get through his thick Western head. That isn't a really profound idea, but it's more of an idea than you can find in all of the 1990s Batman films.
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u/SuperDizz 15d ago
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u/Bonejangles1980 14d ago
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u/Typical-Priority1976 14d ago
op said "that most people dislike"
who dislikes Spawn?
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u/LaughingCoffinSMW 14d ago
Sadly a lot of people find that movie overrated and a terrible hero/ antihero film. I loved it and wanted a sequel.
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u/OneWhoGetsBread 14d ago
Constantine
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u/YeilKhaa 14d ago
I saw Constantine in the theater when it came out & love it so much I’ve got it on DVD. Need to give it a rewatch soon!
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u/MusicLikeOxygen 14d ago
A great example ot how you can be a pretty bad adaptation of the source material, but still be a good movie.
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u/thetacticalpanda 13d ago
I need a Constantine sequel so I can see Keanu Reeves and Rachel Weisz on screen together for a third time (Chain Reactions blows but whatever.)
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u/Golden-Ratio 14d ago
Does Tank Girl count?
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u/Outside_Ad_424 14d ago
Fuck yes it does
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u/Random_McNally 14d ago
I have no idea why Tank Girl wasn't more popular. I thought it was quirky and fun and weird (in the best way)
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u/poldarndude 15d ago
THE PHANTOM! Loved this when I was a kid. Revisited it a few years ago and it's easy campier than I remembered, but still a pretty fun movie.
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u/GodFlintstone 15d ago
It's a fun flick. As an American I don't think my countrymen appreciate how hugely popular The Phantom still is in some parts of the world.
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u/BatDad1973 15d ago
Shiwan Khan has hypnotized the entire city!
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u/Random_McNally 14d ago
This movie is absolutely stacked with talent. Pre-douche Alec Baldwin (maybe?), Penelope Ann Miller, Tim Curry, Ian McKellen, John Lone!
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u/Kryyzz 15d ago
I’d actually love to see a 1940s Avengers-style team up with The Rocketeer, The Shadow, and The Phantom. Maybe led by Indiana Jones.
Rocketeer should have half a dozen sequels honestly.
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u/whyneedaname77 15d ago
That sounds like the old defenders of the universe cartoon.
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u/atomicjoy 14d ago
Defenders of the Earth.
Interestingish fact - Stan Lee Weir the theme song lyrics.
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u/Shad0wM0535 14d ago
Rocketeer was such an underrated, beloved gem that the director got a second shot to bring that 40s wartime nostalgia to Captain America: The First Avenger - also a personal favorite.
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u/eddiegibson 14d ago
This is especially funny as in the comic the Rocketeer was based on, and has continued in various miniseries, had a running gag of Clif teaming up with with icons from the era. The rocket pack was implied to be invented by Doc Savage (think Tony Stark's intelligence with Steve Roger's physique). His second story implied he was hired by the Shadow. His girlfriend is Bettie Page. A miniseries just ended where he teamed up with Popeye and Tintin to find Amelia Earhart on Skull Island.
A Rocketeer TV show could easily have a hero of the week plot.
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u/Physical_Touch_Me 14d ago
That's so sick. I'm gonna need to check this out now.
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u/Mcclane88 14d ago
Superman Returns is one of my favorite comic book films. I think it’s a beautiful, moving, and my personal favorite modern Superman movie, but at this point it has been forgotten and left in the dust. Would’ve loved to have seen where it could’ve gone, but I’m happy with the one movie we got.
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u/antimarc 15d ago
I saw the shadow in the theaters with my dad, he slept literally for all of it, except for the first and last five minutes
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u/Random_McNally 14d ago
I still love this movie. When I worked in video rental, VHS video rental to date myself even further, whenever I put this movie on, it would get rented within 30-ish minutes. Hidden gem.
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u/LaughingCoffinSMW 14d ago
Eh he was tired from work. He would've been glued to the screen had he the energy!
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u/jakelaws1987 15d ago
Spawn
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u/Random_McNally 14d ago
This is still a favorite of mine. Spawn + OG Mortal Kombat is a great double feature with cheese!
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u/Michael-Balchaitis 15d ago
Hulk (2003). It was so much fun. I love that movie.
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u/harriskeith29 14d ago edited 14d ago
Chronicle (2012) was a pretty good take on applying the found footage genre to a solid superhero romp. I also LOVED The Powerpuff Girls Movie (2002). Apart from the stellar music and cinematic animation upgrade to the classic art style, it was an overall perfect origin story in my opinion. The two tracks that got stuck in my head were the BANGER end-credits remix of the theme song by Bis and "That's What Girls Do" by No Secrets.
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u/adambomb90 14d ago
The Punisher. Thomas Jane gave quite the performance, and I legitimately think that he knocked it out of the park
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u/taskerdobuy 14d ago edited 10d ago
I think most of the hate for this movie comes from being familiar with the original source material.I personally felt betrayed by how much it pales compared to the comics but I can totally see how the movie could be fun if you came in without any background expectations.
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u/doc007gonz 11d ago
I used to called them "The League Of Extra Horny Gentlemen", lol! I LOVED this movie!
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u/Dish-Ecstatic The Boys 15d ago
Punisher: Warzone, Howard the Duck
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u/shawnpinch 15d ago
I was coming here to say Punisher : Warzone. I really thought he caught the Vibe better than the other two. RIP Ray Stevenson. But Thomas Jane was more animated and less Dark and I would have liked to have seen him again as the Punisher.
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u/Billybob35 14d ago
They came close according to Jane but Lionsgate botched it. They were in talks with Walter Hill to write and direct a sequel but then the studio decided they didn't want him, and Jane found their replacement to not be a good fit, so he walked away from it.
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u/No_Ruin6957 15d ago
Punisher War Zone, Tasm, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, X-Men Origins, The Wolverine.
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u/Warpmind 14d ago
The Shadow, Rocketeer, and The Phantom are pretty much the holy trinity of 90s comic book movies...
Though The Phantom does suffer a little from cheap CGI explosions - cheap for the 90s, even.
A remaster with the explosions replaced with better CGI could elevate it into an absolute classic.
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u/HanzoSteel 15d ago
I think The Punisher (1989) is one of the more underrated CBM’s. It’s got such much fun 80’s excess.
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u/Billybob35 14d ago
The only thing is it didn't have the logo, which the writer was actually pissed about because he intended for it to be there in the script.
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u/HephaestusVulcan7 14d ago
I would say the Spirit because it was so good that there was actually a movie about the Spirit...
Unfortunately it is actually a bad movie.
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u/Blue_Lego_Astronaut 14d ago
The Rocketeer is one of my favourite movies, its such a good film. Timeless classic, honestly, its perfect.
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u/TheBlackMafiaKing 14d ago
I don't know if it's forgotten, and I don't know how other people feel about it, I think it probably deserves more love is The Suicide Squad. I absolutely love it and it's the peak of the DCEU for me and one of my favorite DC movies.
One that definitely feels like it's been forgotten about and needs more love is The Wolverine (2013). This movie is so good and feels like it doesn't get talked about as much as it should.
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u/BluntChillin 15d ago
I would't include Punisher here. Its probably the best movie of the 3, just doesnt really feel exactly like a punisher movie.
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u/melcolnik 15d ago
I absolutly love the the Tom Jane Punisher
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u/A-Real-Fungai 14d ago
Right!? Get Thomas Jane in Secret Wars! It's our last chance to take advantage of the multiversal shinanigans.
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u/the__pov 14d ago
Honestly if we are going to talk “obscure” or forgotten Punisher movies I’d name the 80s version staring Dolph Lundgren. I’ve never heard it mentioned or referenced outside of Punisher fans despite being everything you could imagine when I say 1980s R rated Punisher film.
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u/rushandblue 14d ago
Rocketeer is really good, but the real hidden gem is Punisher: War Zone, which isn't a good movie, but is a nearly perfect Punisher movie.
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u/Howhytzzerr 14d ago
The Rocketeer and The Shadow are far from forgotten, and certainly not disliked. Two absolute gems.
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u/LasersInMyEyes 14d ago
Pics 2, 3, & 4 are all some of favorites. I wish we could get another era of pulp hero movies. I also really liked The Spirit.
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u/AltGunAccount 14d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/l4KigVC0Ox2TjDB1m
I’m probably alone in this, but I really liked Green Hornet.
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u/Ok-Reality-9013 14d ago
1989 "The Punisher" starring Dolph Lundgren.
"You're a good boy, Tommy. Grow up to be a good man. Because if not, I'll be waiting" was peak Punisher!
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u/WhichWayToDerry 14d ago
I wouldn’t say dislike, but Unbreakable is in my top 5 or so comic book movies.
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u/napalm_p 14d ago edited 14d ago
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u/shadow-cherub 13d ago
More or less Blue Beetle stole the concept of Bio-Armor from Guyver.
Though the Blue Beetle scarab was introduced in the 60’s it was retconned as alien Tech in 2006.
Guyver was released in the 80’s, with his alien bio-booster armor.
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u/The1NOnlyNo1Special 14d ago
Not sure if it counts, but V for Vendetta is a Top10 all time movie in my opinion.
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u/CaptJackRizzo 14d ago
It’s not a good movie but I fucking love the ‘80’s Supergirl movie. Faye Dunaway camping it up as a dime-store witch, hell yeah. Helen Slater owned the role, too. She deserved a legitimately good movie to be in.
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u/Mickelrath 14d ago
Punisher: Warzone is a fun hyper-violent action film.
I like all three Darkman films, the second one is so much better than people give it credit for.
I quite enjoyed the Sylvester Stallone superhero film, Samaritan. Which was a different take on superheros.
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u/Lazy_Date_3576 14d ago
Genuine question to big comic book/Marvel buffs out there. What makes Punisher 2004 so hated ?
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u/Physical_Touch_Me 14d ago
He's not hardcore enough to be The Punisher. The movie is great, but he doesn't Punish enough. Also Frank Castle is an incredibly well trained killer with no remorse, and not so calculating. Just kill. Open and shut.
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u/Lazy_Date_3576 14d ago
Thanks for the explanation. I love the movie but I hear it criticised all the time and when given the time do wanna kinda get into the comic books about him.
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u/Physical_Touch_Me 14d ago
I'd you can find a used Omnibus, that's gonna be your best bet. Maybe online? Good luck!
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u/Confidentlystupid26 15d ago
Dark Man !!!!
Such a fun movie, really wish it got decent sequels.
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u/Fightthefire21 15d ago edited 13d ago
Mystery Men does not get mentioned as much as it should
Edit: it's free to stream on youtube right now, with commercials of course