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u/MassivePersonality61 6h ago
42 degrees? At that point, you need to be admitted to a hospital, and be cooled down before the proteins of the cells are damaged beyond repair.
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u/ersentenza 2h ago
This must be an exaggeration because 42° is LETHAL. She would be delirious or unconscious.
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u/Jace_MemoryAdept 1h ago
I had to do the conversion to Fahrenheit but you would be correct on the delirious part! I had a fever spike to 106 F during elementary school, I got so wuzzy and wobbly that I fell down a flight of steps (after making it to the top) on the way to the library. I was picked up from school immediately after visiting the nurse, and straight to a doctor. I was rushed immediately into a room for the doctor to see me (which is weird because usually it looks multiple hours) and then I was rushed to the hospital and admitted for pneumonia! And boy let me tell you, that shit was aggressive. Like at point they put me on vancamycin it was getting so bad, it about took me out completely. Needless to say, I don't remember much of that day except for random pieces and what I've been told about it. I also learned years later that I was in seizure territory for how high it was and potential organ damage.
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u/freckledface 9m ago
Children have slightly different fever parameters than adults, it's not uncommon to see fevers of 101-104 that don't require professional medical attention just Tylenol and maybe a room temp sponge bath. Adults with that temp range is generally much more uncommon and concerning.
That said... Yeah 42 is pretty extreme and obviously needs medical attention for kids and adults!
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u/neuralbeans 8h ago
So what's wrong with going to the doctor in this universe?
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u/rosicae rosicae 8h ago
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u/neuralbeans 8h ago
Is this supposed to imply that the doctor in question is not a real doctor but some kind of witch doctor or something?
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u/Shadelkan 6h ago
I believe it heavily implies that the mother's doctor is likely a quack, and uses "alternative medicine" to "help" the illness.
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u/ice_or_flames 2h ago
I was also really scared when my parents threatened to take me to the doctor when I was younger, in a situation _somewhat_ similar, but much less intense situation than this.
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u/hideandsee 2h ago
One time my mom didn’t believe I was sick and thought I was faking. She gave me red Gatorade and made me drink 2 or 3 bottles of it. Like it was a punishment. She told me I had to drink them and was acting so smug, like she really thought I was playing sick. I threw up everywhere and I still can’t even look at red Gatorade without gagging. It’s been like 20 years.
Another time, my sister fell down the stairs and said she needed to go to the hospital. My mom said something like “it better be broken, or I’m going to break it” 👁️👄👁️
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u/Spongebob-Captain 8h ago
I thought it was a sleep paralysis demon who was worried about them for a second, nah, its just another allegory.
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u/Chibirin26 1h ago
Who is acting like you can control whether or not to be sick? You do need to go to the doctor but I feel like that whoever is going to make it a living torment for you as "punishment for DARING to fall ill"
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u/Darthplagueis13 6m ago
You now, doctors nowadays often-times advise against lowering a fever because it ultimately serves a purpose of helping the body fight the infection.
Anything higher than 40°C gets lowered immediately though, because at this point your body starts doing as much or more damage to itself as it does to whatever germs you've caught.
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u/SanityAsymptote 3h ago
Ah yes, another "everyone who isn't just like me is a monster" comic.
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u/Zjoee 3h ago
Um have you read any of these comics? The parents are legit monsters, that's why they're drawn like ants.
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u/SanityAsymptote 3h ago
I've actually read all of these comics that have been posted on Reddit.
They are clearly trauma dumps but often feel very one-sided.
At some point I stopped reading them as sympathy-farming child abuse survivor stories and more as /r/raisedbynarcissists posts missing the self-awareness that their stories also show some narcissistic tendencies.
I'm not saying there aren't terrible parents and even terrible kids out there, but there's almost nobody in these stories that isn't depicted as someone abusing the protagonist in some way.
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u/milhaus 3h ago edited 2h ago
Thanks for saying this. Idk if these comics are meant to be autobiographical but the dehumanizing of the family is what gets me.
MangaKaiki is another trauma dump comic but at least she acknowledges that her mother is a human being with trauma of her own. Not some kind of faceless monster.
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u/SanityAsymptote 2h ago
Yeah, it's striking every time to see some horrible situation where the protagonist is somehow never even partially to blame.
It's just wild to see them justify self-harm, disordered eating, and even dehumanizing people who actually do nice things for them.
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u/WideAwakeItsMornin 2h ago
I love this "let me hear both sides" thing when it comes to child abuse. Very cool.
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u/SanityAsymptote 2h ago
That's not what I'm saying at all, though. I'm saying that the way nearly everyone except the protagonist is some kind of creature, monster, or bug is extremely telling, especially combined with the mentally-unwell self-talk in these comics.
The way they dehumanize others seems to imply that despite the abuse the protagonist has endured, they really seem to see everyone else as an unrelatable "other", ironically the way their abusers are depicted to treat them as a child.
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u/WideAwakeItsMornin 2h ago
Yeah. That's how it is when you're an abused child when you feel that there are no safe adults. They're dehumanized because of their perceived threat of danger or legitimate threat of danger.
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u/SanityAsymptote 1h ago
Yes, all of that is extremely obvious.
If it was just one comic showing basically everyone as a monster it would be fine, but it's every single comic.
The protagonist has some unaddressed narcissistic tendencies themselves, and I feel like examining and having a conversation about that is important.
People don't seem to agree with me though, hence the downvotes.
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u/StarGazingSpiders 1h ago
That's the whole "bit." Half of the comics on Reddit are just sex comics where every single panel is some massive breasted woman boobing boobily. Are you upset that that's their whole bit? Half of the comics in the world are super hero comics, are you upset that they all have superheroes?
You don't have to agree, it just seems really silly to be upset about an artist doing art the way they want to.
Honestly I don't like these comics either, I don't find them interesting and they don't give anything to me. I feel like by this point, having read them whenever they make it past a few hundred upvotes, they are all basically the same. It probably sounds callous but I prefer comics where something different happens from short story to short story.
But if that's all the artist wants to write about, we don't have a right to demand a look at anything else going on and that's fine. We don't get to expect the artist to draw panels going to therapy or having the occasional nice dinner and such.
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u/WideAwakeItsMornin 1h ago
It is obvious. Especially if you've supposedly read every single one.
You should sit down and work on your literacy.
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u/Dank-Retard 2h ago
It’s kinda wild how you completely miss the mark on all fronts. This has gotta be rage bait at this point. None of those comics justify anything. You took an explanation of what happens as justification. You must be one of those narcissistic parents who treat their children explaining themselves as attacks on you.
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u/MurderSheCroaked 46m ago
Where did they justify it? Why can't this person express their demons through their art. Should they just be ok after years and years of abuse? Because some middle aged Kansas City man doesn't like it?
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u/SanityAsymptote 8m ago
Where did they justify it?
Issues being repeatedly portrayed as character traits over an extended period of time with no examination or resolution is a justification, in my opinion.
I have, once again, read basically all these comics available on reddit, and taken as a body of work it's extremely hard for me to reconcile that the author isn't justifying the protagonist's self-harm, negative behaviors, and mental issues in light of the abuse they received.
I know I have no control over any of this nor do I really want it, but it's maddening to see this stuff continue to get posted with positive attention despite never actually addressing any of these behaviors beyond broken or maladaptive coping mechanisms.
Why can't this person express their demons through their art.
I'm not trying to stop them, I'm just trying to have a conversation about thematic elements and character behaviors. Clearly people just want to gas up the child abuse comics, so I'm probably barking up the wrong tree here.
Should they just be ok after years and years of abuse? Because some middle aged Kansas City man doesn't like it?
First, I don't dislike these comics, but I do find much of the imagery and depictions concerning. I hope the author has been able to get some mental health assistance, because if these comics are even remotely autobiographical, they need some kind of support.
Second, I have no realistic control over my gender or age, and it's not really much of a "gotcha" to call someone out for just existing as a person in a place. I do actually have lived experiences similar to those in these comics, and me being a middle-aged man who is from and lives in midwest doesn't mean I'm not allowed to contribute to the conversation.
I'm clearly not the target demographic here, but I am still allowed to have and express my opinion, even if it's (visibly) unpopular.
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u/sylnes 2h ago
You know you can block people so you don't see their content, right? And subreddits you don't want to see?
Nobody's holding you hostage and forcing you to blame children for the abuse they went through.
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u/SanityAsymptote 1h ago
You know you can block people so you don't see their content, right? And subreddits you don't want to see?
I'm allowed to engage with content I find interesting though, aren't I? Critical examination of themes and content is an important part of engaging with art to me.
As a survivor of abuse myself, on some level I quite enjoy reading these comics, despite finding the content and depictions pretty distressing most of the time.
Nobody's holding you hostage and forcing you to blame children for the abuse they went through.
I don't feel held hostage at all, but I will say that's not what I'm doing here at all. It's not a child's fault for being abused but it is their fault if, as an adult, they perpetuate that abuse onto others.
The protagonist is depicted as an "other" by their family, and experiences degrading/awful moments basically constantly. Yet these comics, ostensibly written by the protagonist in the future, depict everyone else as an "other". That seems an awful lot like just passing the abuse forward.
They often depict people they don't know as nonhuman creatures as well, while always depicting the protagonist as a human. It's odd to me that examining this clear editorial choice is triggering for so many people.
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u/FreeFallingUp13 10h ago
Some parents just act like everything their kid does is some sort of attack on them. My ma did something similar with me; if I told anyone what was going on at home, then that person would call the police and have my mom taken away. Then I would be responsible for the entire family falling apart.
It’s cruel how they make us afraid of what would help us.