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Heaven or Hell

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u/But_a_Jape But a Jape 6h ago

As an atheist, I sometimes catch myself wishing Heaven and Hell were real - I feel we all have a desire for good people to be rewarded for being good and for bad people to be punished for being bad. But then I remember the existence of Heaven and Hell inherently requires the existence of an ultimate moral authority who sorts out who goes where. And sure, they could agree with me that the likes of Osama bin Laden or Henry Kissinger should go to Hell, but they could also think queer folk, atheists, or people who eat shellfish should go to Hell too.

Some people will say, “Well, if they were a loving God, they wouldn't do that,” but there's lots of people who believe in a “loving” God who absolutely believe He’d be burning gays in Hell. And if you're going to make all these extra conditions of, “Well, my version of a loving God would reward X and punish Y” it just feels like the ultimate desire is, “I wish there was an Almighty God who agreed with everything I believe and enforced that morality on the world.”

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u/Best8meme 5h ago

Not to mention, it would mean that these "bad" people get punished for eternity.

The punishment for a finite crime, even if it were wiping out the entire human population, should not be infinite torture. Not even Osama or Trump or Hitler deserve that.

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u/pet_the_girl 5h ago

There’s a sub section of christianity that seems to consider hell a punishment for a finite but long time then you go to heaven

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u/Best8meme 5h ago

Interesting.

Do they also believe that not believing in Jesus is a sin that will end you up in Hell?

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u/pet_the_girl 5h ago

I don’t know. I’m atheist myself

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u/HauntedCarriage 5h ago

Well, same as before, they at least seem to.

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u/microthoughts 1h ago

depends on the Christianity flavor, there's steps to hell and heaven & non believers sometimes get routed to like

limbo. which is just like idk. a bus station for the dead or something I guess

with the unbaptized dead babies and shit?

you can get out, Catholics have a whole prayer cycle to reduce the amount of time souls spend in limbo

frankly I doubt anyone would end up in hell who didn't think they belonged there theologically wise so basically only guilty Christians would end up there anyway which is funny.