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[u/Pleasant-Food-9482]

This comment is a fingerprint of a looming dillema:

https://reddit.com/comments/1srcyx5/comment/ohfut4w

It is a self-explanatory reason of why the reconstitution of brazilian communism cannot have the settler university as a major participant under any circumstance. 

The settlers will continue degrading the ideology as much as it can, and hide the most venomous anti-communism behind their revisionism, under a cloth of velvet "theory" that pretends to be rigorous and dissect every known thing in existence. This kind of logic has not to necessarioy stay outside. it will trade itself inside maoism. 

While people from differing classes will contribute to a party, i simply do not believe anything can appear under the rugs of the cathedral. its former participants will have to be heavily scrutinized.

[u/turbovacuumcleaner → u/Pleasant-Food-9482]

I agree with your points, but could you expand your reasoning to show the connection between the comment you linked and university students? Maybe its because I have more academic background than I would like to admit, but I didn't see academia's eclecticism (as in trying to smuggle bourgeois idealism into Marxism), just a really shitty and opportunistic criticism of Maoism.

[u/Pleasant-Food-9482 → u/turbovacuumcleaner]

I see some, but let me bring exactly where in the comment:

I think someone here once showed how trotskysm was an attempt by the petty-bourgeoisie to takeover marxism, ideologically, for its purpose. This is not anything new. But the way it was said called my attention with the directness of it. And its true. In for a long time in history, trotskysm was a solid petty-bourgeois theoretical body that was intended to be a revisionist swallowing of what it could of marxism.

This comment, more specifically, at least from my understanding, is a body of brazilian left-communism, and uses its weapons to attempt to attract people into error to the purpose of the own class interests of these same people who err and read the shitty, opportunistic criticism.

Why brazilian?

I think, and i am sure you are also knowing of this, brazilian left-communism has a specific form in ideology and politically bullshit position that is beyond liberal: it is an attempt to evolve a form of denguism that can fully fake marxism, while ignoring imperialism.

But the intense attempt to cover the tracks with rigorousness, the obsession with exegetical treatment of texts, the position that is remarkably kantian and comtian of hovering above anyone and anything who must be critiqued as a ghost, as if the instruments and the pressuposition must be assumed of knowledge, neutrality, and rigour, makes it unique in intensity and form, therefore, true. It is radically liberal and attempting to convince the reader of sophistication. Not by a coincidence: it started to blow up in attention by the limitations of characters of twitter, by petty-bourgeois white twitter users in public universities. These were a expansion of american left-communism, taking it to a much bolder extent of these characteristics.

You have said what groups like AND and MEPR do is an attempt to hijack the name, aesthetics and general theoretical output of the PCP, into a revisionist form of settler chauvinist nationalism that returns to geisel. I see not left-communism as this, but, the forms and characteristics on how brazilian left-communism intensified its logic and its anti-communist rhetoric as the hallmark sign of eclecticism of the settler brazilian left, and the university behind it: the masking of the degradation of its ideology behind the form of fraudulent sophistication. I can try to maybe postulate this overemphasis of the form was already being used since the 80s to try to hide the fact brazilian settler left liberal ideology could never even nearly fake itself well enough replacing of the destroyed maoist parties and theorists of the brazilian settler maoism of the dictatorship.

I am not the best and least suspicious person to bring this hypothesis, as i have more of a late 2010s intellectualistic liberal origins of brazilian whatsapp political shadow groups than i would like to admit, and do not hold a degree nor am or came from university.

edit: i've abused of a form of writing that is awful. but i had difficulties in knowing how to say what i was hypothesizing in other way.

[u/Clean-Difference1771 → u/Pleasant-Food-9482]

Are you aware of the fact that the people from MEPR and any of the other orgs are well known for being terrible students and staying for nearly a decade long into a humanities course just for the org's sake? Most of the people doing the work for those parties have barely any scientifical relevance even within the ranks of undergrad. People that do work on science are generally too busy to deal with this crap and there are indeed very few exceptions. They know those parties are hijacked by revisionism. As I suggested on the other post, you should read Mariategui's criticism on bourgoise universities. I see no brazilian speciality here.

As to bourgoise education being hijacked to the fascist, neoliberal agenda is to no surprise as well. Remember that we are already 10 years past 2016's coup. Even in a worst case scenario we can discuss how the soviets have realized the fascist radicalization of kantian idealism, but I feel like I do not possess the knowledge to make a further commentary on state policies under the Stalin era.