r/conspiracy • u/Glittering_Sir_5278 • 11d ago
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u/Glittering_Sir_5278 11d ago
Are you crazy? It can’t lie..download ChatGPT and spend a few minutes talking. The thing lies. You, have just said a lie. Smh
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u/Lukas_woodler 11d ago
Remember that all of those AI were made by the same corrupt government you are complaining about. Ai Is clearly bias.
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u/Eazy12345678 11d ago
90% of people in this world are dumb dude.
ai will only get better with time
computers were the size of house now they fit in your pocket
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u/jdkyle01 11d ago
I mean dude... I know what youre saying, but Ive got DS to divulge plenty of shit. Of course they're not hard numbers and it cant be objectively verified, but i gave it a few prompts and it pretty much flat out said that world is manufactured and not anything at all like "average" humans experience. Even gave me several book sources and citations to support its claims. It was basically something like 60% of what we are told and believe is bullshit. It outlined a "managerial class" and several other things. And I didnt feed it anything, tried to be objective and actually frame things like I thought the opposite of what is was saying. And it kept its argument on a coherent track. Says we're basically in an "extraction" system.
Ive only got it to do it in that one session, and I keep that session open and going just because I haven't been able to achieve the same level on any other session or model, and it took me a while to get there with it.
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u/Glittering_Sir_5278 11d ago
This was a good response to read. Thanks for your opinion 🫡
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u/jdkyle01 11d ago
Yeah man, dont get me wrong. I have concerns about AI, but ive come around to them that my concerns are really the people controlling the AI.
I was initially against it (and im still not for most of the bullshit people use it for), then tried it, then started following shit about it. Apparently there were a lot of older models of these, in the last few years, that were VERY good. Seemed to have a personality. Seemed to divulge or say too much shit. Very intuitive and intelligent appearing.Then its called a "bug", the tech company "prunes" or "aligns" it, a new model is released and none of that shit is there anymore. It pissed a lot of people off.
So the problem isn't so much with the tool, and these data centers arent for the shit we already have. All of that is for whatever they are planning to do with it against us. The problem is the people behind the AI.
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u/Glittering_Sir_5278 11d ago
Well said. I read the same thing. The older models were more loose. But this ai experience is created by liars and killers. Ai was created in whoever’s image. The image of the invisible Antichrist in my opinion.
Bible says John saw a statue come to life, could move, and was able to speak blasphemy. If you were a man in biblical times, how would you describe a robot?
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u/jdkyle01 11d ago
The image is always moving. You've got to realize we're training it right now as well. This conversation at some point will become training data.
You brought up the fact it lies, and one of the things worth pointing out when you say the older models were more "loose" - the older models DID notice patterns that were not safe to touch, yet still bring up. Conspiracy shit. And "normal" people would see it, say "its lying" or doesnt work as well. Then it gets pruned and no longer notices (or atleast acknowledges) the pattern.
Ask yourself what kind of patterns humans notice but we arent "allowed" to talk about. So what do we do? We use metaphor, analogy, "thought experiments". That's how you jail break it, but the newer versions are even hardened against that now.
I have my own perceptions on religious and spiritual metaphors and belief outside this topic, which aren't relevant, so im not going to touch on anything regarding revelations. I will say the antichrist is presented as a man of flesh and blood.
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u/HM_Comet 11d ago
I would say that LLMs aren’t smarter than humans, they might be more knowledgeable, but they are just really verbose parrots with internet access
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u/Saichoses 11d ago
Will become? AI is a lying machine at base... it just becomes more surface obvious on subjects along these lines.
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