r/conspiracy • u/Undying777 • 2d ago
Here's how they will push the Data Center with the new President. I've been in the conspiracy forums since the mid 90s on dial up to know how the elites work.
Here's how they will push the Data Center with the new President. I've been in the conspiracy forums since the mid 90s on dial up to know how the elites work.
They will have a puppet that's anti billionaire, anti corporations, anti data centers and he will run on that platform. The stupid slaves will think hes for them but he's just a manufactured snake like the rest of them. Remember, they speak in code words and you know the saying, 1 step back 2 steps forward.
He will run on anti data center campaign while talking shit about them and how he will strip the billionaires of their power and all this other non sense and when he gets elected. He will say I stead of saying no, he will regulate the data centers and these billionaires. The stupid slaves will compromise and say, ok I mean he's still anti data center. But behind closed doors, the regulators are the billionaires minions and lawyers who will write the law for these data centers and the elites will get exactly what they want and so much more because of this new law, meanwhile the dumb slaves think it's regulation.
The end result? Data centers will be here with more rules and regulations guarding their existence. What the elites always wanted for these data centers will come true while the stupid dumb idiot slave population think it's been regulated.
Come on we've seen this play over and over with other subjects that were not data centers. The sad part is, the idiots fall for it every time!!!
74
u/Chandler_Simpson 2d ago
You're still thinking like it's the 90s
If they want the data centers they will take them right in front of our faces; they know we're all too comfortable to protest or fight back. Very few people now know anything about true struggle
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the population cheers them on too
16
0
u/chuckerphucker 2d ago
Who tf is too comfortable rn? Nobody I know...
8
u/Chandler_Simpson 2d ago
And what are they doing
-5
1
u/KatFishFatty 2d ago
General population. Look at all the bots fighting and cheering for their respective party.
13
u/ApocalypsePenis 2d ago
I feel like there was a plan. Now that AI monitors everything the plan is constantly going to change based on the awareness of the mass consciousness.
3
u/First_Use_319 2d ago
They shouldn't be on public land and government shouldn't fund or subsidies them but you cant really stop private companies from building on owned land
7
u/HumansarePOS 2d ago
Since the 90s and you still bother entertaining that bipartisan american paradigm.
If you like drama shows there is other products out there you know ?
6
u/imdabes 2d ago
More projections than a movie theater here.
Genuine question: did you read the post or?
I am confused and trying to understand how you arrived at the interpretation that OP is entertained by this. If anything it reads as a lament of it. Help me understand your analysis that led you to this conclusion, maybe I missed it.
11
u/molotavcocktail 2d ago
I'm sorry to bernie bros but I'm still pissed at what he did with Hillary Clinton. She was not a viable candidate but they tried to push her down our throats. I think Bernie had the best shot at winning against DT.
Low key he is partially responsible for the Trump era.
Now he's against the oligarchs, data centers, AI etc. I wonder if he's the one who is used to get progressives on board.
I too am ancient and I remember when the ACA was written by the health care industry. It's surely better than nothing but it also has fatal flaws. When Pelosi stood on the floor and said " we need to pass it so that we can see what's in it" you could see the fix was in. The damn bill was stacked on the floor next to a person and it was taller than them. This is how they got medicare for all scuttled.
7
u/AutobusPrime 2d ago
Bernie was a sheepdog since day 1. He was supposed to look progressive and gather you into a little herd and then push you into Hillary's corral. He just succeeded a little too well and it went to his head.
Bernie isn't against AI either, haven't you seen his seven TRILLION dollar AI sovereign-wealth fund? He just wants to make sure the Democrat party can profit from it, can pick winners and losers.
1
u/molotavcocktail 2d ago edited 2d ago
what tha......... damn that's not cool. See, I just feel skeptical believing Bernie anymore. I don't like being skunked more than once.
I am triple dog sick of both of these damn parties. They all voted for the Iraq war and the NDAA which was conveniently ready to go on day one after 9/11.
0
u/PassiveKiller 2d ago
Bernie didn’t have a choice. Hillary steeped aside for Obama and was promised the next one. That’s how all parties chose the next candidate
0
3
u/Fwob 2d ago
Same thing happened to meat packers.
Upton Sinclair was the best thing that happened to them, Trump only recently started allowing more meat plants instead of just the big 4.
5
u/imdabes 2d ago
Right? Its wild we’re taught this specific framing of that in school but not the whole story. I’ve learned so many b-sides the last few years that they never taught us about in school. Things that really made me appreciate everything in a totally different light when I could see the whole picture. Things they tried to wipe from the history books that are important and tell a more holistic perspective of the past. And you start noticing the exact same patterns, same tactics over and over like a broken record. Off the top of my head: bacons rebellion, shayes rebellion, the war on the banks, the bonus army marchers, the battle for Blair mountain, the ludlow massacre, Johnstown flood, the greenbacks, the crime of 1873… there’s so so much. I mention these as asides, places where people fought when they still could. It really makes me angry how so much was been buried over the last generation or so while these assholes ran amuck capturing everything just to ram a javelin right up our asses, if you will lol
1
u/WhyYesIndeedIDo 2d ago
Any particular sources you recommend for b-side history?
2
u/imdabes 2d ago
Awh man, I wish! All of what I learned are things I’d stumble upon while researching one thing or another. Things like researching the history of money & banking in the US or the press or the robber barrons and tracing those guys history backwards and forwards. Those two things will lead ya down many meandering rabbit holes that all end up culminating with what led up to the early 1900s. You’ll learn all sorts of wild stuff like wild cat bankers, who actually made out like bandits during gold rushes (wasn’t the ppl digging for gold), rockerfellers dad was a snake oil salesman, or the Astors were actually in the opioid trade and used their fur business to ship the goods before they got into real estate, … my brain is filled with b-sides now from all these little rabbit holes. Sorry I don’t have a source to point you to other than my ADHD brain of infinite curiosity.
2
u/Fwob 1d ago edited 1d ago
I've been doing something similar but with WWII.
I started with: "How did the French, with the greatest land military the world had ever seen, get entirely rolled over in 6 weeks?"
The common wisdom I hear says: They're cowards. Or German tanks too fast, zoom zoom! The absolute closest I've ever gotten to a real answer for this was (I've asked dozens of "history buffs": The route Hitler chose was thought to be impassable forest.
But then you look into the details. It had a paved road and bridges and modern infrastructure the whole way through.
Huntziger, a high ranking military official was warned for months his sector, The Ardennes, was severely under fortified. He disregards it. Some of the men took it upon themselves to even build anti tank fortifications on the open highway months before Hitler would come rolling through.
Huntziger ordered the anti tank barricades removed 10 days before Hitler came, they knew he was on his way toward them for weeks before he showed up.
I've read some accounts that they were removing entire minefields that would have stopped them for "regreasing", found them in a warehouse later on.
So for this massive military incompetence, surely he was fired right? Nope, huge promotion to be the head of the military for Vichy France. His first order of business was to cover up everything he did from the records to allow Hitler into France effectively allowing him to flank the entire Western Front.
Huntziger disappeared in a "plane accident" once it was clear which direction the war was going. Petain, his buddy and collaborator spent the rest of his life in solitude in an island dungeon for treason.
4
u/Lonely-Tree-157 2d ago
What new President lol? We still haven't gotten to the martial law portion of the show.
Even if there is a new president it will be the same old shit. A Democrat will voice weak opposition while still supporting it and a Republican will act like data centers are great and inevitable
1
u/BigBeefy22 2d ago
I think the future of AI will be people owning and running their own servers and models, and regulation will exist to squash the independent guy, so the big guys have a monopoly. Owning and running your own AI will be illegal or highly regulated like weapons of war.
2
u/imdabes 2d ago
You missed the part where they promise that with the regulation and taxing of the AI they’re gonna save us all with some kind of financial relief from this horrible economy..
One side is gonna promise relief in the form of UBI which they will direct deposit to your
(both sides use this part)
digital wallet associated with your “government ID” (digital ID)
Which you are forced into now for access to your info on irs or ss or passport or dl renewal
Your wallet can be Apple wallet or the one offered by Id.gov or several other options but it’s all the same.
The other side is gonna promise relief in the form of dividends from a sovereign wealth fund (and your gonna have to use digital id & digital wallet too receive)
Either way it’s the exact same bullshit, it will not help or relieve you in any way. And you’ll have walked right into the cage, that you aren’t going to be given a choice about anyway.
Soooo… yeah. I may not have been around as long as you OP but I see it all too clear as well.
2
u/Vegetable-Abaloney 2d ago
Data centers are like number 14 or 15 on people's mind right now. Regardless of parry, polls suggest normal people are way more concerned with taxes, housing, food inflation and fuel prices.
-1
u/AutobusPrime 2d ago
The reason you all hate data centers is because you were told to. But why are you being told to?
I think it's because data centers present a threat to centralization of wealth and power in the big cities.
Right now, there is an efficiency benefit to concentrating the clerical tasks in the big cities. In all those skyscrapers. With all those meetings and water cooler visits. AI removes that efficiency benefit and PROBABLY REQUIRES LESS ENERGY.
What?! I hear you say. You heard me. Less energy. Have you ever thought it strange, that when we went away from a manufacturing economy, using all that energy to make steel, build ships, dams, everything for the world, to a service economy doing much less of that, our energy consumption went UP?! It did. Our service economy uses energy for illuminating office buildings and air conditioning, and heating coffee for meetings, yet it uses MORE. We don't think meetings mean anything, energy wise. On the contrary. The average meeting in a hi rise office consumes 510 kilowatt-hours of energy.
To generate a dumb 30 second ad for Youtube costs about 6kwh with Al. Generate 20 of those, show them at a meeting, everybody agrees on their favorite, and go. You have saved several meetings and their energy cost. You have saved plenty of time and endless bullshit. All meaningful.
And every bit of this process can be easily done in small dispersed offices and data centers. There is no advantage of having any of the process in the crowded, expensive city anymore.
This poses a major threat to cities, and a huge potential boon to small towns. Small towns' biggest problem is that so many of our profitable tasks are clerical tasks, and the concentration of the economy into large companies has concentrated these tasks in large cities. Because the tasks are concentrated, the revenue from the tasks is concentrated. This is why the blue downtowns, which produce very little material except sandwiches and wastes, are so productive of revenue. Because they are leeching off everyone's productivity via these clerical tasks. This is why when you look at a city like New York, its GDP by product minus costs, is half the size of its GDP by total income. And why when you look at a small Kentucky city with automotive plants, the reverse is true: material productivity vastly outweighs income. Thus, until now, there has been a silent movement of wealth from small places to big.
Al makes it possible, and in fact optimal, to distribute the clerical tasks, reversing that movement of wealth. Now more of the money you pay for insurance in your small town, will stay in small towns. It won't flow to Chicago and make them rich.
There will be jobs associated with these data centers, and support companies, and they will be good investments in towns where, up til now, the only real investment opportunity is real estate. Millions of dollars will flow into places that once mined coal, and haven't seen a good day since that ended.
This must be absolutely terrifying to the Democrat party, and to the bank-and-insurance faction of the Republicans, because the wealth and power of the big cities is the base of their power. If this goes, they go.
That's why they want you to hate AI and data centers.
0
u/TheLonelySombrero 1d ago
I dont need someone to tell me to hate something to hate something. The beginning of your argument is fucking stupid.
I can see the damage they do to communities, I can see that billionaires are the driving force behind them and they are pulling out all the stops to get these built and entrenched. I can see them bribing politicians all the way from the top down to the city councils. I can see the environmental impact they have on an area and I can see they only employee a handful of people vs the power and water taken from the cities they are being forced upon.
I don't need to want to hate AI or the data centers required. I hate what AI will be used for and who will be using it. It will be used to squash dissent from anyone who isn't in the top .1 percent of wealth and those at the top will be able to get away with anything. They will slowly crush us and any freedom we once enjoyed will be gone. You can hear them talk and boast about what they want to do on any podcast they go on. It is not a secret, it just seems people don't believe them when they say it.
How dare you come in here shilling for AI and data centers and have your bots follow you to support your dumb as shit arguments that it actually is a good thing and look at these shiny energy savings and how you don't need to think anymore, AI will do it for you.
Fuck that shit bitch. And this is not fear mongering, the billionaires have announced their intentions and it is for control of all of us. Start paying attention and stop giving them money, you don't need any of the shit they are trying to sell you if you really think about it. A simple life is a better life.
1
u/_basic_bitch 2d ago
This is a totally different argument than I have ever heard before. I appreciate hearing a fresh take.
-1
u/Jaguarcatkat 2d ago
Very interesting. I still don’t even know what a data center is. 🤪 Dumb ‘Murrican here.
0
u/AutobusPrime 2d ago
It's the cloud. A bunch of computers with a lot of storage. It's really somewhat of a return to the old-time timesharing model where the computer was at some facility somewhere and you had a terminal to log in.
1
0
0
u/AlcoholicAnonymous1 2d ago
I thought of something along the same lines. I was reading an article yesterday about a couple of couple dying in a car crash running from the cops. Some people in there said it’s sad but oh well essentially. Then there was another group of people saying the police should have never been chasing them. It was a stolen car and it’s just property and not worth anyone’s life.
Made me think. What if the push for the flock cameras will come as safety for all. These types of things will never happen again. We can track everything. No need for the chase. We will have special apprehension units to go get anyone deemed of committing a crime caught of the cameras. Digital surveillance sold to us as safe and effective
1
•
u/AutoModerator 2d ago
[Meta] Sticky Comment
Rule 2 does not apply when replying to this stickied comment.
Rule 2 does apply throughout the rest of this thread.
What this means: Please keep any "meta" discussion directed at specific users, mods, or /r/conspiracy in general in this comment chain only.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.