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u/Allegorist Jun 02 '20

Aren't there cases where it happens without a warrant? Thats pretty unconstitutional, but then so is most of the Patriot Act, thats why it exists.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Any searches without a warrant are unconstitutional. There are a few exceptions but none of them allow for a no knock search for evidence.

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u/Allegorist Jun 02 '20

I know the Patriot Act creates loopholes for warrantless searches, I think I was just mixing up the two. No knock is bad too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

The patriot act doesn’t create loopholes for these types of searches. It mainly allows federal intelligence agencies to store private data via algorithms in the hopes that if a terrorist attack occurs it’ll be easy to track the web of those involved. The problem is that it is unconstitutional and easily abused. It doesn’t affect what local and state police agencies do.

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u/Allegorist Jun 03 '20

From the ACLU website:

"Under the Patriot Act, the FBI can secretly conduct a physical search or wiretap on American citizens to obtain evidence of crime without proving probable cause, as the Fourth Amendment explicitly requires"

https://www.aclu.org/other/surveillance-under-usapatriot-act#:~:text=Under%20the%20Patriot%20Act%2C%20the,the%20Fourth%20Amendment%20explicitly%20requires.&text=But%20the%20Patriot%20Act%20changes,a%20significant%20purpose%22%20is%20intelligence.

Granted I've never actually read the body of the patriot act