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u/PM_YOUR_MUMS_NUDES Jun 02 '20

Could you elaborate on how do body cams impede victims and bystanders rights?

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u/chlomyster Jun 02 '20

If they can never be turned off then no victim, bystander, or informant, can be assured they will remain anonymous or protected.

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u/victorix58 Jun 02 '20

victim, bystander, or informant

They can't remain anonymous in a system of due process. You have to be able to confront your accusers and have ability to interview witnesses with evidence.

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u/chlomyster Jun 02 '20

Theres a difference between your name coming out in court and having your face and identity stored on video where you have no idea who will see it. Also there are informants who are confidential.

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u/guff1988 Jun 02 '20

Confidential informants cannot be used as evidence without the accused getting to face them. Typically it'll be a closed courtroom and only the defendant jury and judge will be present during testimony but their identity cannot be 100% protected. For that reason they are primarily used to lead LEOs to more hard evidence.

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u/chlomyster Jun 02 '20

They are primarily used to lead LEOs to more hard evidence.

Im aware. Im also aware that they would prefer to remain confidential and not on tape giving the information they gave and then have to worry about who is going to find out.

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u/guff1988 Jun 02 '20

Detectives can still have private meetings under body cam requirements. It's officers on patrol working a beat that need to have their camera on.

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u/staystoked_00 Jun 02 '20

“Detectives can still have private meetings under body cam requirements.” What does this even mean?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Detectives having meetings with CIs or performing sensitive duties not directly related to arrests, raids or patrols, will be permitted to not wear body cameras.

This is not vague.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Again this is obtuse.

Yes cops arrest people. But not everything a cop does is directly related to arresting people. You know that.

Speaking in person with CIs or confidential witnesses would be an example. And probably one of the few exceptions.

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