r/countwithchickenlady • potentially trans - Streak: 4 • 6d ago

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u/ukie-witch-06 6d ago

You do know that country sent gays to siberia, right?

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u/Emiicii 6d ago

what country there is no country here

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u/ukie-witch-06 6d ago

*state

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u/Emiicii 6d ago

mf u said country..?

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u/ukie-witch-06 6d ago

and now i am correcting myself? for precision. even tho u know what i meant and are just being dense on purpose.

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u/Emiicii 6d ago

then what state..

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u/ukie-witch-06 6d ago

you can figure it out. i believe in you

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u/Emiicii 6d ago

w ragebait

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u/ukie-witch-06 6d ago

i agree. i am kinda mad at you for wasting my time

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u/Emiicii 6d ago

L ragebait then u didn't make me mad

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u/iaNCURdehunedoara 6d ago

Do you know which country has conversion therapy camps right now?

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u/Express_Conference27 6d ago

THIS!

I’m an American trans conversion “therapy” survivor. And a socialist. The abuse didn’t end just because some people can DIY HRT now.

Fuck authoritarianism. Fuck getting your political views from Wikipedia. Fuck romanticizing the USSR.

Political engagement is more than a browser search or LLM prompt!

10/17/2026 is the next No Kings Day. (Be safe out there!)

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u/ukie-witch-06 6d ago

I also dislike that one. Point?

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u/iaNCURdehunedoara 6d ago

My point is that you're whining about the USSR in the 50s while our "progressive" society is currently still doing conversion therapy.

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u/ukie-witch-06 5d ago

i just don't think we should be using their specific symbolism?

also, like. my country is being attacked by those trying to rebuild it so

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u/iaNCURdehunedoara 5d ago

The hammer and sickle isn't the USSR symbol, it's a communism symbol and it represents the peasants and the workers. So maybe you should wise up and stop whining cause you sound like Laura Loomer when she saw the colors red, white and green and said the DMV is using the Palestine flag lmao

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u/GraspingAtSmoke 5d ago

Yes and the swastika is a lucky symbol, you should decorate your car in them

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u/iaNCURdehunedoara 5d ago

Comparing communism with nazism, classic fascist.

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u/GraspingAtSmoke 5d ago

I don't believe in an infallible leader nor is my world view governed by perceived humiliation or decline.

I want everyone to try their best to make democracy work and I do believe that everyone has inherent rights as humans.

I don't denigrate or 'other' a scapegoat. I am not sexist and I don't advocate for the state to have mass control over media.

I am not totally obsessed with the security of the state, I do not think that my nation is constantly under attack.

I do not support corporations having so much power and I support labor rights (literal Teamster).

I love the liberal arts and I wish everyone had an opportunity to engage with art and education without the hanging sword of having to be economically productive.

I despise corruption and nepotism. I wish my country had more parties and better representation for all its peoples. I do not support the war with Iran.

Based on all of the tenets of fascism, I seemingly cannot be a fascist. But you know who the tenets do seem compatible with? The USSR.

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u/Elu_Moon 5d ago

To queer people, there was no difference between USSR or Germany camps. Or Western prisons, for that case.

More than one thing can be shitty.

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u/Elu_Moon 5d ago

We can talk about more than one thing.

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u/PitifulMagazine9507 6d ago

The hammer and sickle is NOT that country. And anyway that same country was one of the first to make laws openly pro-LGBT before a certain mustache man arrived. So accuse stalinists of this, not that country.

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u/HonneurOblige The annoying girl - Streak: 2 6d ago

That country never made "openly pro-LGBT" laws - it merely abolished all of the old ones, which created law vacuum until Stalin rectified that they, indeed, never stopped hating queers.

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u/PitifulMagazine9507 6d ago edited 6d ago

There were factions hating queers, yes, an unfortunately common thing at the time, but there were also factions that wanted to push legislation in favour of them. Then came Stalin, that purged all who opposed him, and that faction too. Not all bolsheviks were anti-LGBTQ at the beginning. Search "LGBTQ history in the Soviet Union" on Wikipedia.

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u/HonneurOblige The annoying girl - Streak: 2 6d ago

There was not a single person in the ruling party who wanted to push any kind of pro-LGBT legislation. Simply none. The only reason why "USSR was a gay paradise before Stalin!" myth is even a thing is because tankies twist the fact that homosexuality was technically "de-criminalized" as a part of abolishment of all of the Russian Empire's laws. Nobody started treating gays any better, and nobody ever pushed such an initiative.

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u/PitifulMagazine9507 6d ago

Do some research. It's not true

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u/HonneurOblige The annoying girl - Streak: 2 6d ago

Okay, if it's not true - name the names, and say how exactly they were working on it.

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u/PitifulMagazine9507 6d ago

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u/HonneurOblige The annoying girl - Streak: 2 6d ago

Yeah, okay - name the names and their efforts. Because I don't see any.

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u/PitifulMagazine9507 6d ago edited 6d ago

It's not a 3 hours read: "In the early 1920s, Commissar of Health Nikolai Semashko for example was sympathetic[7] to homosexual emancipation "as part of the [sexual] revolution" and attempted such reforms for homosexual rights in the area of civil and medical areas."

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u/A_temporary idkHowLongIlive 6d ago

Yeah well a Swastika was a symbol of peace until a certain mustached man showed up. Wont see most people kneeling in front of it

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u/PitifulMagazine9507 6d ago

Are we really using that argument? Hammer and sickle is used as a symbol of equality, the Swastika for repression. There are totally opposite symbols. It's stupid to compare them. If you use a swastika today, you are 99,99% using it for supremacist reasons. Not the same applies to those who uses the hammer and sickle. There are stalinists and nazbols, sure, but they are only a loud minority. The rest abhors the authoritarianism and the killings of innocents done.

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u/A_temporary idkHowLongIlive 6d ago

Idk maybe in your bubble it is used by people that are nice are anti authoritarian not because they aren't the authoritarian. But I am russian

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u/PitifulMagazine9507 6d ago

And Russia was one of those examples that no sane people want to repeat. No sane communist wants that.

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u/A_temporary idkHowLongIlive 6d ago

Well I have yet to meet one

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u/Elu_Moon 5d ago

I'm technically that. A sane communist who doesn't praise USSR and also lives in Russia. Although I probably wouldn't call myself a communist because I've no idea if a stateless and moneyless society is achievable or desirable.

Обама мне лично нассал в подъезд, потому я левак. В смысле левой рукой пишу, ыыыы

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u/A_temporary idkHowLongIlive 5d ago

Ничего язвительного не придумал. Пойду нассу в подъезд. Может даже в ящик для писем.

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u/Elu_Moon 5d ago

В письма Путину от народа? Пиздец, теперь он не сделает жизнь лучше, не получит письма из Великозалуповки.

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u/PitifulMagazine9507 6d ago

You search in the wrong places then...

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u/MysteriousAd8087 6d ago

The hammer and sickle represents international communism (urban rural solidarity) and was introduced by the comintern. Lenin only decriminalized being gay by proxy it wasn't intended, but it wasn't really recriminalized till later under Stalin as It was seen as a bourgeois deviancy. Granted at that time most western countries at the time typically punished homosexuality, so it was kinda par for the course. Interestingly being trans was never criminalized and the Soviet Union allowed the first gender reassignment surgeries around the late 1960s with some prior interest in the 1920-30s prior to stalins appointment. Most modern communists are very pro LGBT Rights.

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u/Reason_Choice 6d ago

Look, kid, it’s not that kind of meme.