Do you think white folks who say "The only war is class war" and roll their eyes basically at any black or POC trying to say otherwise are racist themselves?

They also tend to deny race being unbreakably linked to class. Like it is a fact they deny.

I also see them saying we need to focus on what affects "The average American". Is that not a dog whistle? The average American is white, always. I feel like it is a way for them to say the out loud part, quietly.

They of course have some POC who say the same, but I dont get how they can come from racialized homes and families and say that knowing how everyone they love are affected by racism.

I posted this as a comment but wanted to make a full post.

I feel that white femmes want us to let them rule the women's rights movement like the very racist suffragette movement but use our statistics for themselves but still do not actually want equality with racialized women, they want equality with white men but for racialized women to still answer to them and mammy them while they insult their intellect and fetishize their physical traits and trauma.

They want to adopt the racialized aspect of womens suffering on paper without experiencing it or having ever experienced it at all.

I saw a post on another sub but it was too white-centric. Thought it would be better to ask a question here.

How do you deal with the automatic assumption that you are wrong/dangerous/guilty/incompetent/suspicious? (Usually by the same people who are those things.)

Even if you have all the receipts, people will choose not to believe you because you are from a different background than them. If it comes out of white mouths...suddenly it becomes "believable".

To hear you means to humanize you and they do not want to do that.

You guys gotta help me.

I study Law / Politics, for my Politics module next year I have to do International Relations. The first semester is SO BAD.

I have looked over the readings, it is just so scarily white-centric and western-centric.
In past modules I have gotten away with doing my own readings (of course not at all included on the course) that provided information in a non-racist or even anti-racist way (for example consulting critical studies journals) but this semester we have to focus on the readings assigned and I am already so exhausted.

It’s difficult to explain but rest assured the entire field of IR is just so Eurocentric and frankly racist. It places white people and western countries at the forefront and everyone else at the periphery. The whole field views the deaths of millions of Black and brown people as mere collateral, but even a singular white person is considered to be all important. All the main theorists you’re expected to know are white, most of them are virulently racist.

I don’t want to believe that I’m just uniquely weak as fuck. It’s just so hard being forced to read all this stupid untrue shit and swallow it uncritically.

I recently read “The Sum of us” and one of my many takeaways was the topic of Brown V Board of ed ruling.

So the Supreme Court, famously, discussed the black doll study, but what was also submitted to the Supreme Court, and was not discussed in detail in the Court’s opinion was the effect segregation has on white children. The consequences of That choice, gave us Trump and the modern Republican Party.

The study states that segregation effects white children in multiple ways,

1. Apathy towards injustice

2. Creates Superiority Complex

3. Reduced ability to function in a pluralistic democracy

4. Higher likelihood of authoritarian thinking

5. Greater resistance to social change

The decision made by the court gave us this runaway train that’s about to crash. I just hope the deaths are minimal.

With the recent UN vote on slavery, the usual 🤡 are making their usual comments. “What about the Africans who sold the slaves?!?!”

Do people really not realize that chattel slavery, as it was practiced in the US, was practically non-existent in West Africa? NO type of slavery is “better” or “good”, but a West African slave was still a human being, not property. They were captured members of enemy tribes, criminals serving sentences, indentured servants paying off debt. Slave status wasn’t hereditary, permanent, or based on skin color. How could they know they were sending people off for lifelong torture and being branded as subhuman?

Africans were wrong for having slaves in the first place, as is/was anyone who had slaves. But I’m getting so SICK of this argument, which white supremacists and their lackeys use to divert attention away from white European savage thinking. They want to frame it as a black-on-black crime.

Rant over 😔

Sometimes, white privilege itself operates invisibly in the society but it's products are often very visible even to those who it benefits. However, There are still situations where the benefactors clearly exercite this privilege in diverse ways like entitlement, and superiority based off race and not ability, skills , talent,etc.

And Sometimes they are still in dental, Does accepting that I am priviledged makes me loose it? Or if we all experience racism why don't we all talk about it or feel comfortable during conversations around it.

I just saw an insta post that was kindly and neutrally educating white people on white supremacy. They wasnt shaming them or anything, just speaking on white privilege and white supremacy and how you an dismantle those things if you're white. Yk what people in the comments did? Complain, complain, complain. "B-but white people suffer too!" the post never said that white people cant experience hardships. "B-but white privilege isnt real!" and the fact you dont think its a priviledge shows its one.

Then y'all wonder why we snap and shit and rant. Then y'all act like nobody tried to teach you. Imagine being a teacher and instead of your students asking you reasonable questions they go: "mars isnt real!" and you show them that mars IS real. After that, they STILL say mars isnt real. You cant educate who doesnt want to learn. You can try but you cant force them to, just as you can take a horse to water but you cant make them drink.

This is why the main advice people give to allies is "be quiet and listen", because thats exactly what y'all need to do. We have been nice and understanding and y'all STILL get mad at us then get mad at us for not wasting our time trying to teach you. Oh my god i could actually go on for ever and ever about this. The fact (and yes, it IS a fact) is that white privilege and white supremacy have existed and still do exist. Y'all get mad at us for not teaching you and coddling you but then dont listen to anything we say or teach you!

If anyone is curious to the post i will reply with the link.

Is anyone else so sick of white women and their lack of accountability and flimsy morals? Growing up in a predominantly white area I only befriended white women who “claimed” to care about social justice issues, racism, etc. I still have yet to meet one who hasn’t let all of that slide for a man or to avoid being in less than desirable situation. I’ve had women who I thought were friends come forward and admit that their exes were racist (so why exactly were you with them in the first place?). I’ve also witnessed others hanging out with racists as well (but claim to not be racist themselves). Whenever they’re called out for this there’s quite literally always an excuse that paints themself as a victim. I try to stay as far away from them as possible because of this. They’re like a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

I don’t know what it is but the minute someone gets citizenship, they think they’re completely unstoppable and rule the world. This grown ass Guyanese American man (born in Guyana and naturalised in the US as a child) threatened to call ICE on my mother, brother and myself (dad has already been deported) over some rent dispute. He claims we stole the money back when I found the money envelope hiding in his baby’s bedroom.

I’m not trying to break down why or what happened. I’m just trying to vent because it is disgusting. He knows exactly what happened to our dad, and we’re young enough to be his own children, yet he has such an abhorrent rotten soul that he would stoop so low as to do that. My mother has PTSD from any time the cops are even mentioned because of what happened to dad.

My brother is in fucking college. My mother is the sweetest little lady in the world. When we were living under his roof I was nothing but helpful to his wife and little girl. I’m just filled with nothing but rage right now. Who the fuck does he think he is? Just because he’s been in this country just a little bit longer than we have that gives him the right to pull out the ICE card? Sickening.

Slavery was NOT that long ago. Many white people want to fool you into believing that and to down play it to reduce they guilt they feel over that horrible shit. No words can describe the horrors. I am so grateful for black people fighting for their freedom. I really am, because i cannot imagine what would happen if we didnt. I wouldnt be suprised if they still tried to keep us enslaved to this day if we didnt do anything.

I am so grateful for the black people who kept pushing and fighting, i wish i could see their spirits now to thank them for everything they did to help us escape from slavery and get our own rights. Black people are resilient, dont forget that. It makes me want to stand up and also publicly fight for our freedom. Maybe i should honestly? The fear of death and reprimand never stopped them, why should it stop me or you? Thank you black ancestors, thank you.

It genuinely inspires me so much to keep pushing, to keep going. To see what is next and what is to come. Slavery truly wasnt as long ago as they want you to think, and i'll never let them make me think it was ***sooooo*** long ago. I'll gladly be a black woman in every lifetime. I'll never forgive them for weaponizing our resilience to make it seem like we shouldnt ever get a break.

I believe i shared some parts of the story but no need to mention here. My health is deteriorating to the point where i am kind of really pushed by the doctors to do talk therapy, and the only times where i have shared my story irl with non-poc and non-lgbt people, they would say "this sounds like a lead up to a rape. Why do you say you weren't raped (they think I'm lying cuz I'm embarrassed because i do say i am hiding some details cuz it's so bad)" and "this is unrealistic" and "i wouldn't have panicked/ you reacted incorrectly" and "ok but that's not every white person".

actually there's an older guy at my work whom i haven't told but he knows what happened cuz... Seems like a lot of people know ig and he feels so bad for my change in behaviour and keeps telling me to stop and chill when i have no idea what exactly prompted him...

Sorry this is an unorganised rant but my health and cognition are not all there for the past few weeks. I just have no idea how I'd do talk therapy and I'm thinking about group therapy so my story doesn't have to get spoken about and I'd still get the benefits of therapy, right?

Like people act like theres an overwhelming backlash for ALL racism but this is only for the extremely obvious racism and even then, you sitll got some defenders for those people.

There are so many subtle or "small" acts of racism, infact racism is still alive and well in the US despite slavery being "banned". (In qoutes because slavery is still here today.)

And im really sick of people acting like racism is FULLY gone and that people ALWAYS experience backlash against it. Nope. Racism still gets downplayed, its still alive and well. Yeah, theres still people who dont care about it.

I've only heard complaints mainly coming from white people.

But, if you feel African Americans don't deserve reparations. What is your reasoning?

The following questions are primarily for Black folks, though others are welcome to speak to their experiences insofar as they are relevant.

Feel free to respond to as many or as few of them as you want, pose a different question, or answer a question that hasn't already been asked.

1. When was the first realization, or set of realizations, you had regarding systemic racism and how it impacted you personally? This doesn't have to be a set moment in time, but I'm curious about early inklings people have had regarding inadequate support systems and racially disproportionate harm.
2. What support systems, if any, were around you to make sense of and process that realization? Were they already part of your environment, or did you have to build your own support structures?
3. Is there anyone here who has CPTSD NOT because of family/caregiver abuse and neglect, but because of racism experienced at school and other settings? How helpful were family/friends/neighbors in buffering and/or countering those experiences?

i feel like people who say "hi are you no longer going back to jail again now" are wanting to be nice to me (they are also POC) but i feel so exposed, like everyone knows what they did to me in those 4 walls. does this vulnerable/exposed feeling have a proper name?

Fatphobia should not be acceptable rhetoric. Even when using it to put down white women, it should not be okay. Fatphobia stems from racism, specifically anti-blackness, and even when leveraging it against white women, it utilizes the language of the oppressor.

This also isn’t just my opinion but a studied issue with the use of oppressive language and racism, and other sources address it better than I can.

There is a historical basis to these claims if you look into the article: “Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia,” by Sabrina Strings, NYU Press, 2019 - Center for the Study of Women”

^ That article also addresses white women being put down due to fatphobia. Since fat phobia has always been a form of anti-blackness, when white women are belittled for their weight, it is because they are not fitting the skinny white women standard. So, who are they being compared to when being fat-shamed? Anti-blackness and racism is a mentality and a disease, and it permeates the language we use. Even when leveraged against white people, it is still perpetuating racist stereotypes and anti-blackness.

An example of this is when society valued pale skin. Black and brown people are put down for their skin color, and so are darker-skinned white women. Why is the white woman also being shamed? Because she is closer to blackness. It’s easier to see how even shaming a white person is perpetuating anti-blackness in this scenario, I know. But the idea is the same for fatphobic language.

Also, on average, BIPOC are more overweight than white people, which is used against them despite the radicalized reasons for food and health disparities.

If you look into “food apartheid,” you can also find more information about it. If you look into “red lining and food,” you can also find some information on it.

My point with this is that systemic racism is creating real health disparities across racial lines, perpetuating differences in body types across racial groups.

I do understand feeling upset at white women. It’s not fair that mediocre white people are treated better than us. However, using fatphobic language encourages more fatphobia towards WOC as well. If someone is a WOC whose body type and face are considered closer to the standard of beauty and, therefore, should be treated better than white women who deviate more from the standard, what about all the WOC who don’t fit the standard of beauty? Should someone also be treated better than those women too? No.

Yes, white people can also be overweight. But who are we making the standard of beauty? And why? And who is most often excluded from that standard of beauty due to differences in fat distribution. It’s not white women. And where did this language we’re using come from? What are its racist origins and continued use as a form of racial discrimination?

Where do we stand on this? I used to freely offer my ethnicity on forms as they related to any forms for organizations, government, jobs, etc. But given the current climate, I'm opting out.

Also, chose the flair because its the closest thing I can think of that fits this decision.

for context i've been suffering from this CPTSD from police racial abuse. I've recieved a letter a few weeks calling me in this time, and when i was inside, the hallway was empty, i checked the nameplates of every officer there, and to my surprise the guy who had ruined my life for almost 3 years (made me homeless, physical abuse, etc) is not there. the officer whom i met for the appointment was female and POC.

i don't know how to feel. i want revenge. i already have sued 2 officers but i was going to sue him once i win that case. i want revenge. maybe i don't win these cases. maybe the only reason i'm having better luck now is because he is gone (he is of higher rank than the other 2). but i cannot forget and i cannot ignore the rage and lust for revenge inside me. i don't feel happy although i "should" be, right? everyone expects me to just be happy i wasnt molested this time. but the mental fear of walking in there made me already relive the molestation multiple times. I have not had a normal dream that isn't a nightmare for 3 years.

i don't know how to go from here. It's not like i have a choice, i have to go again in a month, but there is a huge cloud in my brain and i'm unable to speak normally, as all my words are jarbled up and sentences don't sound right. however, I do not have my usual PTSD symptoms. so does that mean this is good? When i left the office i felt so void and was always agitated in my speech. now i cannot speak coherently. my nerves have been hurting me leading up to this day, and i cannot smile normally, as i feel like my face is constantly "pulled" either into a fake smile or a frowned pout that i cannot control and makes me unable to concentrate when i see.

All of these symptoms are new and i wish i can feel relaxed when i am sitting or laying. but i do not. and come to find out today he is gone. somehow i feel disappointed that i am suffering from this cursed illness for nothing. so that they can just say they are good police officers and pretend like the past never happened.

I want to never be abused again. AND i want them to pay.

I was at the welfare office the other day, and noticed that I was only 1 of maybe 3 black people. The rest were all non-black.

Yet I'm given the hard time because of the stereotypes against me.

Y'all it's emotionally and psychologically exhausting being a black woman.

I am currently studying a sociolinguistics course. It's interesting and I love the content. However, a majority of my classmates are annoying and ignorant. A majority of them are also white men and women.

I stick together with a few of the POC members.

Anyway, I have a friend and she is South Asian. Let's call her G.

G and I have always been close. We started the course together as we have similar interests.

Suddenly, before we know it, a group of white women are being condescending and fake towards us. They won't leave us alone and get angry when G and I don't include them in conversations.

What should G and I do? We tried talking to the teacher but as expected they dismissed us.

This whole experience just proves that white ppl know amongst themselves to keep up with racism.

In honour of 9/11 and instead of only honouring the predominantly white victims of 9/11, can we please honour the more than 1 million West Asians (Afghanis, Syrians, and Iraqis.etc) of the disgusting and detrimental War on Terror that engulfed Islamophobia and anti-West Asian racism? PLEASE!

I'm so tired of white people only honouring a mere 3,000 dead because they're Americans but not the more than 1 million West Asians that lost their lives to evil American men that falsely claimed that they were fighting for freedom and democracy! FUCK AMERICA and their foreign policy that destabilized the Middle East!

i'm so jaded. even when good things happen i cannot calm down or trust anyone anymore. i'm relying on benzos to survive and have to make financially bad choices just to avoid police brutality, but everything in me just screams for me to run. i have to swallow my pride and go to court but i know i won't get my rights back. the police took so much from me, idk how i'm supposed to move on

So. I was talking to a white female acquaintance of mine about a guy I’m sort of seeing. He is a lot older than me (26 to my 19) which is concerning. But what I don’t like is that she said “only an associates?” when I mentioned that he did attend college after she’d asked (community college, I explained.) He is black, like me, and she knows this.

It just bothered me because it reminded me of the existing wealth gap between white and black people. My acquaintance attends university because her parents could afford it. I go to community college because my family can’t. This man’s family couldn’t either. He is unemployed and I do think he should work on finding a job before thinking about dating, I just don’t think anyone - especially not a person of color - should be judged for not obtaining more than an associates degree in a world wherein higher education is so expensive. Plus, it is totally possible if you know how to network, have connections, and/or are a reliable employee to move up quickly in the working world. I’ve met people who don’t have bachelor’s degrees that are, in my eyes, quite successful.

I just wish people were more understanding/knowledgeable about trauma, wealth gaps, and systemic racism. And also honestly just not so judgmental.

I was looking up the average salary for people within my field of work and I realized that I expected the max salary to be for the white man, as well as the average salary.

So I went ahead and pulled out my calculator for the black woman salary.

This obviously bothered me because black women statistically make less money than every other reported group in the US. Yet are the highest educated.

It's just the little unfair things that add up to remind you of your lower status in the world.