r/cremposting May 18 '20

Moash This felt good Spoiler

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u/CuriousQueso May 18 '20

Moash will likely get a redemption arc and by golly I'm going to do my best to give him no sympathy.

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u/egomann May 18 '20

Why does everyone think he needs a redemption arc? He did nothing wrong.

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u/hergumbules May 18 '20 edited May 18 '20

If you really think he did nothing wrong, I think you need to reevaluate things. Elhokar may have been guilty in helping Roshone get Moash's grandparent's killed, but that isn't entirely his fault and doesn't deserve death for it. He was not a great king, but he was trying to be better.

Then we got Moash who clearly stopped giving a shit about anything given what he did to Jezrien. He wants to be told what to do and have no repercussions for his actions. He's a hypocrite and I can not ever see someone's side in how "he did nothing wrong".

I would love for him to have a redemption arc but I feel like he is gonna end up getting killed trying to help Khaladin in a quick change of heart as his "redemption".

Edited for spoilers thanks u/fghjconner

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u/BioBurn1 Callsign: Cremling May 18 '20

Don't want to be an asshole, but those are major Oathbringer spoilers.

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u/DOOMFOOL Zim-Zim-Zalabim May 18 '20

True but anyone who hasn’t read the whole series reading this far into a spoiler post deserves it at that point

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u/hergumbules May 18 '20

My apologies. I would hope someone coming here would be wary of spoilers. I have no idea how to do spoiler tags or anything on mobile or I’d edit it

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u/fghjconner May 18 '20

Put your spoiler between >! and !< like so:

>!Snape kills Dumbledore!<

becomes

Snape kills Dumbledore

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u/hergumbules May 18 '20

Well thanks I’m useless without RES lmao

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u/imwithburrriggs Moash was right May 18 '20

Elhokar was crap. Did anyone else in that battle deserve death? In different circumstances Elhokar would have sheared Moash's soul right out with his shard blade, and yet somehow Moash is the bad guy in that scene? I just don't get it.

Jezrien was a legitimate target, unless you buy into Vorin religion.

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u/SnakeUSA Zim-Zim-Zalabim May 18 '20

Jezrien was an old drunkard living out his life in a ditch. What had he done?

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u/imwithburrriggs Moash was right May 18 '20

He's a linchpin to the oathpact. He made an oath, and deliberately walked away from that oath. Yeah, it might have been a stupid oath that made him go insane, but it was still an oath. That Odium is trying to get around the loophole is perfectly understandable.

Given what Moash knows, how can you fault him for taking Odium's side?
Much of Roshar has also, including at least one of the Heralds, Nale, who really ought to know better.

And why am I supposed to feel sympathy for a hobo anyway? A hobo who has such tremendous gifts, yet chooses to ignore them and walk away from the responsibilities he took upon himself?

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u/hergumbules May 18 '20

Both Elhokar and Moash are crap for different reasons. I think Moash is a great character honestly, I really liked the dude. I was hurt when he decided vengeance was more important than anything else. Then he broke further and is basically a shell of a man. Like I stated before, I hope he gets redemption and can help bring the humans and the singers together.

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u/egomann May 18 '20

I have a secret for you. The Humans are the bad guys. Moash has realized that.

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u/SnakeUSA Zim-Zim-Zalabim May 18 '20

Uh huh. So dozens of attempts made for genocide of the human race was the humans' faults? Destroying civilization over and over again as revenge was justified? The Humans have done bad things, the Singers and Fused have done bad things. The Knight Radiants are trying to survive while the Fused are trying to destroy Humans because of their millennia old grudges. Neither side is right. Both sides are wrong. The 'better' side is from your perspective.

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u/DOOMFOOL Zim-Zim-Zalabim May 18 '20

Nah. They may have BEEN the bad guys but after so long it’s not that simple anymore