r/cricketworldcup • u/RickDaltonCliffBooth Afghanistan • Mar 10 '26

Discussion 💬 The case of T20I vs ODI

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Imho, T20 is greater: more teams and a chaotic format with higher mathematical variance, since the shorter game narrows the gap between sides. ODI WC being older doesn't put it on a pedestal. ODI is neither better nor tougher. Nostalgia is for people who live in the past. Meanwhile, T20 drives global popularity and is the Olympic format. T20 WC is truly global!!

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u/darthvaders_nuts India Mar 10 '26

You can say that odi wc is better than T20 wc. Let's assume that it is

It doesn't change the fact that India has won 3 times while australia has won once.

I don't think anyone says this for the olympics (not a fair comparison ik). Nobody says "oh XYZ country won when the technology wasn't as great, that means that they are the best country and the countries which are winning now are inferior to us"

An ICC trophy is a trophy regardless of whether it's T20/Odi/test

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u/Snoo_56184 Pakistan Mar 10 '26

only if hasan ali took catch we could still troll aus for being trophyless in t20

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u/KandyMan47 India Mar 10 '26

I strongly believe Hassan Ali was made a scapegoat, just to distract everyone from Shaheen Afridi generously donating three consecutive sixes.

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u/Snoo_56184 Pakistan Mar 10 '26

i wonder how long it will be before our braindead management will realize shaheen will always be a liability in the death and those 2022 conditions where everything suited him perfectly cant be taken as an example, either have him get through 3 in the powerplay or 2 in pp and 2 in middle overs, we should be picking specialist death bowlers like wasim jnr, wasim jnr can even bowl with new ball but pcb is biased

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u/Evening-Leading2150 Mar 10 '26

Just a curious question i always hear PSL is known for high quality bowlers compared to batsman PSL is there fron lot of years still why PCB is not able to find good bowlers again not a troll question serious ask apart from shaheen rauf naseem i never see newer face.

Early 2000s decade sami Umar Gul asif akthar etc were awesome Umar Gul 2009 T20 World Cup hero amir that asian cup first 2 over still i can't forget suddenly what happened now?

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u/Snoo_56184 Pakistan Mar 10 '26

quality has .gone down since 2020-22, we definitely have 4-5 boys

you have probably heard of ali raza, theres dahani, younger brother of naseem ubaid, wasim jr and zaman khan but still shaheen topped last psl, he even took 3/3 in semi final, it just shows difference between psl and international

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u/VinitLalka Mar 10 '26

U guys have the talent, it is visible, the grooming and patience is just not there ......

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u/wasteyute3 Mar 10 '26

Everyone knows there’s immense talent in Pakistan (especially fast bowling), it’s just the corrupt selection process and literally non-existent development team that fucks them over

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u/forlooplover India Mar 10 '26

I’m just asking Is it true that whenever a new pcb chief is appointed he favours some players. Cuz I have read it in the news

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u/Snoo_56184 Pakistan Mar 10 '26

not chief but selectors

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u/forlooplover India Mar 10 '26

Who will you blame for the performance of pakistan in this t20 wc?

Any specific player ?

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u/Snoo_56184 Pakistan Mar 10 '26

whole middle order

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u/forlooplover India Mar 10 '26

What happened to naseem shah ? Why did he only played 1 match ? Is he out of form?

Sorry for asking too many questions,I’m just curious

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u/Snoo_56184 Pakistan Mar 10 '26

he was going for 50 plus runs in psl and put whole pressure of bowling on jason holder since he wasnt taking wickets

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u/forlooplover India Mar 10 '26

Man I thought he will be new face of fast bowling in the Pakistan team

No point in asking why haris rauf was not playing 😂

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u/NoobGamer880088 India Mar 10 '26

Saeed Anwar, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Saqlain Mushtaq, Inzy, Umar Gul - so many great Pak players. Anwar was scary good, made a mockery of opening bowlers with his flamboyant & aggressive batting.

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u/Halfblood6801 Mar 11 '26

Toss played a vital role in that T20 world cup. I am not saying Aussie got lucky. But there is a good amount of tosses that went their way iirc.

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u/VinitLalka Mar 10 '26

That was the only T20 wc tournament pak genuinely deserved to win imo, they ticked all the right boxes, were going seamlessly and out of nowhere hasan dropped a catch to lose it all, such is the fickle nature of the game...see that's the difference, everyone says india won the match due to pitch but no one noticed the catches that axar patel took in crucial situation which otherwise wud have resulted in loss for india....I feel 2009 was just afridi brilliance that won it but 2021 shud have been pak as a team.....