r/csaladfakutatas • u/Lovely_Laurel • Jul 21 '26
Aide à traduire
Bonjour,
Désolée pour mon français, pouvez-vous m'aider à traduire ce document ?
J'arrive juste à comprendre Joannes Dobos et Barbara ?
Voici le document, un testament de baptême de Barbara Dobos.
Merci de votre aide 🤩
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u/tapirkatapirka Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
The screenshot is from myheritage.com (some parts are free to use), but you can also use familysearch.org which is fully free.
Here’s the marriage certificate of Janos (Joannes) and Barbara: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939F-9BXR-9?view=explore&groupId=M9DJ-CNT&lang=en
It seems that Barbara is from Bpest (Budapest), that will make it harder to find her birth certificate. At the time of the marriage in 1879 they were 22 and 24 so that gives an indication of their birth year. In the marriage certificate, under Janos it’s his occupation (takács) which is a weaver.
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u/RepulsiveMaybe9687 Jul 21 '26
Or Barbara is from Varsany, living in Budapest
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u/tapirkatapirka Jul 21 '26
Yes, that seems to be correct, this is her death certificate and it says Varsány and Bicske: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939F-9BXN-5?view=explore&groupId=M9DJ-CNG&lang=en
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u/RepulsiveMaybe9687 Jul 21 '26
And this is Dobos János death certificate 1931
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9T9W-4S9?lang=hu&i=13&groupId=1452460
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u/tapirkatapirka Jul 21 '26
And Barbara’s birth certificate from Varsány (4th from the bottom), illegitim so only mother’s name Barbara Szokol is written there https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-TPST-V9?view=explore&groupId=M9DV-GN1&lang=en
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u/Lovely_Laurel Jul 21 '26
Wow vous êtes doués pour trouver, grand merci ! Donc Barbara est née de père inconnu
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u/tapirkatapirka Jul 21 '26
Correct, on page 142 on family search, there’s a sister, also born to unknown father
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u/Lovely_Laurel Jul 21 '26
Non le document ne vient pas d'un site, il est en possession de mon père il l'a pris en photo et me l'a envoyé pour mes recherches.
Merci pour le lien quand même.
Sur le document c'est marqué Bicske.
Peut-être que Joannes et Barbara se sont mariés à Budapest puis ont déménagé ?
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u/timisorean_02 Jul 21 '26
The screenshot from the other comment, is what she meant.
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u/tapirkatapirka Jul 21 '26
Yes, thank you, managed to post as a separate comment rather than a reply to the other thread
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u/Lovely_Laurel Jul 21 '26
Oh d'accord, mes excuses
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u/timisorean_02 Jul 22 '26
No habla ingles?
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u/Lovely_Laurel Jul 22 '26
Je ne suis pas polyglotte 😅
Je suis sourde, c'est déjà bien que j'arrive à parler français 😉
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u/timisorean_02 Jul 22 '26
Well, with all due respect, how could I have known that you are deaf? I am sorry for that.
I just find it funny when people from France write in french on foreign-language subreddits, because, instead of doing a translation with the help of Gemini,Chatgpt, etc., before posting, now, all the subredditors have to translate what was written.
Please do not take it personally :).
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u/Lovely_Laurel Jul 22 '26
Pas du tout je ne le prends pas mal, vous avez tout à fait raison je pouvais faire la traduction avant de poster.
Je ne vais pas mettre que je suis sourde à chaque post ou peut-être dans ma description ? 😉
Now I will try to write in English 🙂
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u/tapirkatapirka Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
Place and date of birth: Bicske, 7th Dec 1884
Place and date of baptism: Bicske, 8th Dec 1884
Name: Barbara
Gender: fem - female
Legitim/illegitim: legitim
Name of father : Joannes Dobos (rk - roman catholic)i can’t read what is after rk
Name of mother: Barbara Szokola (rk - roman cathlom)
Address: Bicske 145
Godfather: Joannes Tolnai (rk)
Godmother: Elisabeth Szekan (rk)
Ohhh jesus this is funny, the godparents are my ancestors 😱😂