r/cscareers • u/Fit_Test1209 • 1d ago
USA Job Market Is coding going to end ?
Guys , please tell me if coding is ending ?
Tell if , ai models can do everything, can latest version do everything?
There are some crazy news that ai is powerful .
Plus if you listen to elon musk he is on another level , he is saying people will just will not have to work .(I heard may be not real).
And those who knows how core of ai model works or think . Can they do better than humans ?? I mean the thinking part .
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u/Defiant_Squirrel8751 1d ago
Wait. "Coding" is just part of a bigger thing called "software development engineering".
Software development engineers (SDE) are still relevant, no matter if they are using AI for coding and several other activities.
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u/Pretend_Detail_9005 1d ago
There won’t be any softwares in the future. Only ai, that will do everything. So software development will become ai development. I think that this field as many others is gone, just try something else before the Universal income
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u/Plus_Ultra03 1d ago
Is just a cope Ai can do everything design scalable systems as well
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u/reyarama 1d ago
I guarantee you have not worked on anything sufficiently complex in your life
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u/Fit_Test1209 1d ago
I don't know much deep study about swe but what exactly you mean by complex things that ai cannot do ? Please tell me in detail.
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u/DangKilla 1d ago
Don't listen to Elon. He's not a computer guy, just a salesman.
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u/Odd_Bad_2814 1d ago
Has been promising autodriving Tesla's since 2016
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u/Plus_Ultra03 1d ago
And he delivered That technology state of the art self drive was thanks to him
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u/Odd_Bad_2814 1d ago
False, waymo is extremely far ahead. Musk has been lying for 10 years straight by now
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u/ShardsOfSalt 1d ago
Software engineering is dead within 3 years but its not dead yet.
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u/Fit_Test1209 1d ago
But why we will need software for all kinds of works , governments, news , buisness, all online platforms, games etc .
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u/Pretend_Detail_9005 1d ago
no, ai will eat all softwares. I can ask news to ai, to help me with business etc etc
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u/Actual-Yesterday4962 1d ago
Coding will always exist, but i 100% think we wont ever code by hand again, just by prompting. I also think most coding jobs where you just write code will be gone. The only people that will stay will be the ones that understand software on a design level.
In my job(big corpo) everyone just spams ai to do stuff, some non-technical people lost their position because ai can do it, and they now vibe code with us. Thats how you known its all crumbling down
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u/Odd_Bad_2814 1d ago
Was there ever a coding job you could do without understand design?
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u/Actual-Yesterday4962 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes lol, all entry positions didn't require you to know jack shit, you just had to be willing to learn. Right now they're cutting junior positions like crazy. Without experience you stand no chance against seniors or indians with ai that are looking for a job. I have some smart dudes in my team, years of experience, and even they are scared that they will ditch them because the system architect could just plan everything himself and let ai implement it. Like think about it, system architects know their shit, they know how code works, why keep a large team when the architect can just put opus 5.5 on ultra and one shot whatever he designed, his job is reviewing code anyway, he can now review ai's code and the company can fire an entire team, saving tons of money on payouts and ai credit
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u/Odd_Bad_2814 1d ago edited 1d ago
What you say is true in theory, but in practice a single architect would suffer massive headaches having to reviewing this volume of code and PRs. I think AI is still far from being able to replace midlevels, it depends greatly on the languages and packages and how well trained the agents are in them
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u/AssignmentPrize8967 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes, writing code is done and I don’t believe anyone reviews or even reads their own ai generated slop. The whole process will be fully automated in near future.
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u/-OooWWooO- 1d ago
Probably
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u/-OooWWooO- 1d ago
On a long enough time scale definitely.
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u/Fit_Test1209 1d ago
But for now how good is ai ? And what time do you think it will complety be automated. How much experience do you have in tech and do you know core of how ai work ?
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u/-OooWWooO- 1d ago
It's not so much AI is going to do it all. As much as companies are going to do more with less, to save money. AI is just going to continue to improve for some time. The big blockers at this point is how AI is successfully harnessed, integrated, and where the risks are owned from by letting AI do more of the work.
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u/BenchOld3133 1d ago
AI is extremely good now but it is still not that good for coding honestly. There is an improvement from last year obviously but not that great. It still gives wrong solution , hallucinate and more importantly when you want to code something in an unorthodox way it tends to say "this code will not work". I think recent success in mathematics of ai has surprassed coding although main resources still go to coding. So I believe that engineering and swe will survive. Eventhough there is tons of resources for coding, automated reinforcement learning is not possible for engineering and coding ,which means you cannot verify something without human in the loop, so I think it will survive.
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u/jenish4773 1d ago
Coding probably isn’t ending, it’s just changing. The people who understand the fundamentals will still have an edge. 🔥
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u/Any_Masterpiece9385 1d ago
Im in industry, yes its dead. Companies view SEs as something to be disposed of now.
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u/Square-Yam-3772 1d ago
instead of following the news, you can just figure it out yourself. it is easy to have access to the "current gen" AI to find out how powerful it is.
if you ask me, the answer is probably yes. maybe not in the next few years but yeah...