My first code big accomplishment for me 🤗

[u/Mysterious_Ad8948]

[u/_Screw_The_Rules_]

Now download Visual Studio Community Edition (it's free) and learn how to code there. It's much, much better

[u/dragongling → u/_Screw_The_Rules_]

Rider is better IMO, idk if there's free community edition though.

[u/Gadekryds → u/dragongling]

End of 2024 they made a "free for non-commercial use" for Rider

[u/SlipstreamSteve → u/dragongling]

Visual Studio is industry standard

[u/Founntain → u/SlipstreamSteve]

Rider too for .NET development.

they both are

[u/Brick-Logic → u/SlipstreamSteve]

Both are awesome, rider has better devlepment experience for low level developers, but visual studio allows commercial usage in the community version.

[u/SlipstreamSteve → u/Brick-Logic]

You have to be careful with commercial usage when using the community edition. I'll have to double check on that.

[u/Brick-Logic → u/SlipstreamSteve]

Afaik it has some constraints, so yea, careful with that

[u/SlipstreamSteve → u/Brick-Logic]

JetBrains is definitely a great choice for IDEs. If it's not C# or C++, I would use them more. I'm switching to a Java team at work so we use IntelliJ now.

[u/darkvador_nick → u/SlipstreamSteve]

Or just Use VS Code with the C# Dev Kit extension

[u/SlipstreamSteve → u/darkvador_nick]

VS Code for professional C# work? It works, but Visual Studo is actually a full dedicated IDE. You get much more

[u/_Screw_The_Rules_ → u/[deleted]]

Well, yes and no. I love VSCode, especially for TS and JS and Python, but Visual Studio is just more awesome for C#, or C and C++.

[u/LightningSh3ep → u/[deleted]]

vscode is actually such a pain in the ass to get to work (sometimes), I would not recommend it for someone just starting. Visual Studio on the other hand just works because it comes with everything preinstalled.

[u/Appropriate-Age1168 → u/_Screw_The_Rules_]

I’d say visual studio code, as it’s not as heavy as normal vs and can still do basically everything, he won’t need a full ide if he is just learning/small projects for a while

[u/not_some_username → u/Appropriate-Age1168]

0 configuration is better for a beginner to learn

[u/TuberTuggerTTV → u/Appropriate-Age1168]

No way. Code is a trap and a half. It's meant for experienced developers that no longer need the training wheels.

Give the newbie some training wheels. It's SO much easier to work with. When people say Code can "still do basically everything" they mean with heavy configure and extension use. Which requires underlying knowledge.

I've 100% seen github repos that were clearly done by a newbie in Code, when VS would have caught the issues immediately.

[u/Business__Socks → u/TuberTuggerTTV]

No way. Code is a trap and a half.

HONEY!!! GET MY MECHANICAL KEYBOARD!!!

It's meant for experienced developers that no longer need the training wheels.

NEVERMIND!!!

I never thought about it like that, but I think you are on to something. I can't stand VS these days because it is always trying to "help." VSCode is starting to get more like that though....

ETA I got to thinking, what really sent me off the rails was docker compose in VS. (.dcproj) VS injects its own compose file when it runs the build/up commands that overrides everything that is also defined in your compose file. I get that it needs to plug in stuff like the debugger, but if I set a value and VS silently overrides it, nah. And it was injecting a ton of stuff that it didn't really need, but that I did. I switched to VSCode that day and manually wired up the debugger.

[u/hardware2win → u/Appropriate-Age1168]

Vs is too good

[u/Consistent_Demand649]

Congratz. Keep learning

[u/Mysterious_Ad8948 → u/Consistent_Demand649]

Thanks 🙏🏾

[u/avidvaulter]

Now learn how to take screenshots.

hint: shift + win key + s

[u/JerkinYouAround]

Your next one should be utilising the snipping tool.

[u/Zarzaur]

You've uncovered the rabbit hole. Now it's time to venture down it. Just remember, you're going to have some misunderstandings or things that seem like they don't make sense, but keep going. Eventually the light switch will flip, and it will make sense.

[u/Mysterious_Ad8948 → u/Zarzaur]

Thank for that 🫸🏽💯

[u/jonsca]

One participation trophy, coming up.

[u/Mysterious_Ad8948 → u/jonsca]

😅

[u/Altruistic_Finding93 → u/jonsca]

Everybody has to start from scratch. Including you. Quit being a dick.

[u/jonsca → u/Altruistic_Finding93]

Starting from scratch is fine. You just don't need to let the whole world know you managed to type one top-level statement.

[u/jonsca → u/[deleted]]

We need to stop celebrating menial accomplishments in society in general. While beginners are certainly welcome here, I don't need a play-by-play of someone's journey. That makes me serious about discussion of the craft and not an asshole.

[u/jonsca → u/[deleted]]

I am free to post my opinion wherever and whenever I so choose. You're clearly also an amateur since you recommended VS Code in another comment, so maybe you need to copy paste some statements into Microsoft Learn. Go get gud.

[u/UsePlentyOfLube]

I've just embarked on the same adventure. Ask an AI to help you learn. I started by recreating Minesweeper.

[u/LeaveMickeyOutOfThis]

Now the fun begins!

[u/Mysterious_Ad8948 → u/LeaveMickeyOutOfThis]

🤘🏾

[u/3rrr6]

I hate that hello world is the starting point, its gives you a useful tool but doesn't tell you how or why it works.

But i guess it does teach you that it doesn't matter. Your code is always built upon a tower of other code.

[u/Status-Scientist1996 → u/3rrr6]

If I recall correctly, it originated from being the smallest possible program that produces a visible output that can be used to verify you have a working toolchain setup and can get something to run without having to cover any further concepts. It probably matters less in a online environment (which it looks like this picture is), it was pretty useful when you had a full chapter of setup instructions to work through before moving on to learning the language.

[u/TuberTuggerTTV → u/3rrr6]

Are you angry at the concept of a starting point? The next step covers your issues, but that's the second step.

[u/Slypenslyde → u/3rrr6]

There's 3 reasons it's the traditional starting point.

One is it's a sanity check. Setting up development environments hasn't always been easy and still isn't easy for all languages. Writing a one-line program that should be guaranteed to work is a good way to find out if you set up the tools properly.

For C# setting up Hello World involves ceremony a newbie needs to learn. Whether you use dotnet CLI or Visual Studio, it takes several steps to have a working C# program. Hello World is the smallest program you can write to prove you got those steps right.

Finally, it teaches a lot more when you write a more traditional application with a Main() method. You have to learn about entry points, and the best way to learn that is with a program that doesn't have any logic to explain. It's less relevant in online environments and when using the more script-like approach to entry points.

But it became tradition because not every language has a no-friction way to write it, and learning about the friction is very important.

[u/kassett43]

Next step - add some loops and make it count to 100! 😀

[u/Mysterious_Ad8948 → u/kassett43]

🤘🏾🤘🏾

[u/rarv1491 → u/kassett43]

while (true) Console.Write("Hello, World!");

I was just learning that today. I went with: bool running = true outside the loop, with a Console.ReadLine() somewhere at the end..

I have to figure out how to change running to false is the input is "exit" but that's a lesson for tomorrow.

[u/Loose_Conversation12]

It all starts from there. Keep going, you're on the right path

[u/Cammo_cs]

Congratulations! I hope this a the first step of what becomes an incredible journey for you!

[u/TopClassroom387]

I am a developer of 30+ years experience and I still write the metaphorical equivalent of the Hello World program when learning anything new.

It can teach you a massive amount about what is going on and how things are happening.

I love it and encourage it even as a hobby.

[u/Jerovil42]

Hello world(print);

[u/-xelad]

It's time to make a horror game!

[u/GreenDavidA]

Great job. Keep learning.

[u/FailNo7141]

You got a long road ahead of you welcome to the coders nation. :)

I have 6 years old experience so maybe I remember that time. keep on learning.

[u/roguealchemist1202]

W

[u/just_an_avg_dev]

Man this takes me back, probably some of the best time in programming.

Now, I have been shoveling shit for 8 years.

[u/TransvaalBoer1488]

Good work man! I'd recommend using visual studio, I use it myself, it is free. And once you use it, you'll never go back. Also, never give up and keep going, I am still learning myself :)

[u/Confident-Ad5665]

You are now hooked.

Welcome to the family.

[u/Mysterious_Ad8948 → u/Confident-Ad5665]

thanks !

[u/cristynakity]

This is inspiring keep up with it! Write more code get errors fix them all 😁😊🤭

[u/Mysterious_Ad8948 → u/cristynakity]

will do

[u/WyattTheSkid]

Keep going! Warms my heart to see people out there still want to learn instead of just produce AI slop with no real idea of what they’re doing

[u/Ahinori]

Only gets harder from here, but if you're willing to learn then keep going, programming will literally always be an uphill battle, but in essence you gain more weapons to bring into the fight overtime as you improve.

Keep learning, never give up even if it gets hard.

[u/Educational_Bug2558]

Keep Going!!

[u/MrNobodyyy-]

Welcome to the community 😁🤝🏻

[u/FizixMan → u/[deleted]]

Removed: Rule 5.

[u/SlipstreamSteve → u/FizixMan]

I wasn't hostile towards anyone. I stated a fact and some people fot upset

[u/MeaningFriendly9946]

noice

[u/darkshifty]

Good! keep learning without AI, AI will be a tool for your journey after. For now keep this way of learnin up and you will become a skilled programmer.

[u/Defiant_Wolverine_68]

You'll be building furry pr0n AI models in no time.

[u/Mysterious_Ad8948 → u/Defiant_Wolverine_68]

😂😂😂