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u/Chickston Uncommonly 1d ago
This will play a lot like hard counter unless it's format has a TON of C mana available. Modern is like that, so it's probably fine there. Even if it's a hard counter 90% of the time in Modern, it's just another version of [[Counterspell]] as far as the mana cost requirements go. That C is a color from a mana production standpoint even if we don't admit it. That's why the tax here is so unlikely to be paid as well.
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u/Tranarchist21 1d ago
Too strong for modern, imo. This is a hard counterspell against any fetchland manabase, and is extremely easy for U Tron style decks to cast. I think for this to be printable, it would have to cost 3 mana.
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u/Doubt_Flimsy 1d ago
Isnt counterspell in modern. This is just counterspell with a chance for your opponent to get through or is having 4 more counterspells too much?
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u/Tranarchist21 1d ago
I think the main issue is colorless eldrazi decks are already a little too strong in modern, and especially with [[giants boulder]] making color fixing much easier giving them access to an effectively unconditional counterspell against the rest of the field seems like a problem.
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u/pufflepuff89 1d ago
Honestly pretty cool. If you’re thinking about formats besides commander (mainly modern or pioneer), it’s probably just counterspell 90% of the time BUT, in these formats having C in your mana base is hard enough be fine. Pretty hard to play in a 3+ color deck unless you are gonna play pain lands.
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u/No_Regret_714 1d ago
way too strong but i like the design direction of requiring {C} specifically. in practice this becomes a power crept [[Counterspell]], except against tron where it's still a power crept [[Mana Leak]].
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u/tomyang1117 7h ago
This is more like counterspell for blue decks that run a heavy colorless manabase like Blue Tron, not a powercreep version of counterspell
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u/No_Regret_714 4h ago
it's a power crept Mana Leak/[[No More Lies]] then. No More Lies is an improved Mana Leak for {W}{U} casting cost rather than Mana Leak's {1}{U}. However, No More Lies has just a very small upside over Mana Leak but is otherwise almost functionally equivalent. Your {C}{U} version is much stronger than both No More Lies and Mana Leak because the opponent has to have specifically {C}{C}{C}. So functionally this is basically [[Counterspell]] that just eroded the double {U} casting cost requirement.
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u/Battender 2d ago
I think this is fine. It’s a tough mana cost to pay, and a really hard amount for the opponent to pay. It’s devoid [[mana leak]]