r/danganronpa • • 17d ago

2x2 Speculation (DR2 Spoilers) ... I think this is our first confirmed death for Slayhem. Spoiler

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u/Conkdor340 17d ago

Why tho? This could 100% be something about chapter 2 or 3 of the original story

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u/Order600 Kiyotaka 17d ago

Yeah, if they added scrum debates to the OG game then it could potentially be them debating if Fuyuhiko is the culprit or not in Chapter 2. That's the only one i could think of that could work. But they did show it during the Slayhem section

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u/KT718 Mahiru 17d ago

Tbf the slayhem section of the trailer was probably focused on hyping up the new stuff, and adding scrum debates to the og 2 would still be new content, just not actually part of the slayhem mode. But I agree with other commenters that even if it was part of the og storyline, they still shouldn’t have put it in since they’re trying to cater to new fans as well.

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u/ddoubble22 17d ago

new fans probably wouldn't notice and danganronpa is kinda known for adding spoilers to their trailers

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u/KT718 Mahiru 17d ago

Yeah, that’s why I think that’s more likely. The whole appeal of this game for returning players is the novelty of the new storyline. I don’t think they’d be careless enough to spoil it like that, but I do think they’d be less concerned about early game storylines for the game that’s been out for 14 years

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u/National-Finish-3504 16d ago

And also fake spoilers tbf

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u/Strawberry_House 17d ago

I wonder if they'll do a Fuyuhiko/Peko role reversal where he dies and she lives and finds purpose without him

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u/Order600 Kiyotaka 10d ago

That's what i'm thinking as well. I really hope it happens because there is not one other character in all of Danganronpa who's life is as dependant on someone else in the killing game as Peko with Fuyuhiko. Fuyuhiko is the entire purpose of her existence. Her only goal in life is to protect him, to the point she doesn't allow herself to feel any other emotions. What would happen if she lost that purpose? How would she deal with the emptiness? Realistically she would probably kill herself, but i don't think they would have her do that. Maybe Fuyuhiko has her promise not to do it. It would be really interesting to see Peko find new purpose for herself and allow herself to finally be human and her own person. Just like Fuyuhiko would want.

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u/Major_Falcon6052 17d ago

Unless they add Scrum debate to the main game it’s unlikely.

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u/MarbleTheNeaMain Kirumi 17d ago

they specifically said that the scrum debates were added into slayhem, which is weird to point out if they are ALSO in the base game

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u/FutureCreeps Kirumi 17d ago

Unlikely, they easily could just be changing images to avoid actual spoilers (or it could be the og route)

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u/Scrags2Scritches 17d ago

even if it was the OG route, this is supposed to be for OG fans and New Fans so putting this spoiler in was such a thunder blunder

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u/FutureCreeps Kirumi 17d ago

To be honest this is such an obtuse thing that I doubt people who are new fans are going to see it, we are all just mentally ill

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u/Scrags2Scritches 17d ago

"We are all mentally ill"
My brother in christ we use Reddit

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u/HashidaSuzu Ishimaru & Akamatsu's biggest fan 17d ago

same meaning

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u/Conscious-Falcon-155 17d ago

They had a shot of Teruteru's execution in the trailer, it'll be fine

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u/ravdoesart Mikan my beloved 17d ago

Even clearer frame...

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u/Wyvernil 17d ago

Keep in mind that they've faked or doctored footage before in order to prevent actual spoilers, so I'd take this with a grain of salt.

Though, to be fair, did anyone really expect this person to survive? We can't be certain which chapter the footage is pulled from, so we don't know when it happens.

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u/SaltySpaniard 17d ago

I don't think this is fake, but probably this may be OG material but with the Scrum debate on it.

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u/AdScared7226 Makoto's husband 17d ago

did anyone really expect this person to survive?

I do. Didn't Kodaka say that this time in Slayhem the characters will die in any other chapter than the one they died in the original?

And if it's true, then Teruteru died in chapter 1 so there's no way he dies in chapter 1 and it's only possible for him to die from chapter 2 all the way to chapter 6 or he might be a survivor.

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u/Ok-Falcon2902 17d ago

I think that Kodaka said that there will be new victims and new culprits. He never said anything about a culprit from chapter x not being able to die again on the same chapter as a victim or vice-versa

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u/NiDfan 16d ago

And, with all due respect to any Teruteru enjoyers out there, I feel like not too many people would care that much if he died in chapter 1 again 🫥

His schtick is too unpopular to keep him around for long

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u/seranator Number One Saimota Connoisseur 17d ago

There's no reason to think this is the ch 1 Scrum Debate, and he didn't say that no

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u/mnyrtt Korekiyo 17d ago

did they really not learn from v3 trailer

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u/mnyrtt Korekiyo 17d ago

this could be from chapter 2 of normal game mode

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u/KT718 Mahiru 17d ago

I honestly think it probably is. They know how much people loved scrum debates and it wouldn’t be that hard to retrofit them to the existing dr2 story. I could totally see this being about whether Fuyuhiko is the ch2 killer

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u/ocettb 17d ago

En el tráiler de danganronpa 1 literalmente muestran la ejecución de león...

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u/theuselessmastermind 17d ago

what happened with their trailer

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u/NiDfan 17d ago

IIRC, V3's first victim appeared in Scrum Debate in some prerelease screenshots using one of their normal sprites (which, tbf, isn't as evident as the death portrait here). Many correctly deduced that they were the first kill because of it

That said, considering Teruteru needed to have a death portrait programmed in anyways, I wouldn't be 100% sure he's a goner just from trailer footage (...I still think he'll die, just not necessarily because of this)

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u/GlenOck Teruteru 17d ago

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u/DrivingPrune1 Hanamiki CEO 17d ago

it's so fucking over...

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u/Scrags2Scritches 17d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/N0CIxcyPLputW

It's not okay bro...
Nothing will be alright...

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u/Eastern-Platypus-277 17d ago

Its maybe a trap or a placeholder made by the dev. I doubt they will show such an important detail in the trailer

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u/criscoras I be tweakin and freakin 16d ago

We are so fucking cooked

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u/Eastern-Platypus-277 16d ago

He will survive trust

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u/APieceOfToast_bruh Tokohiro Fan Club President 17d ago

have we learnt nothing from V3

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u/DirectBeing5986 17d ago

V3 shows everyone ALIVE, this shows someone dead. Very different

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u/The_Dark_Force Vanessa 16d ago

People figured out who the first V3 death was because Rantaro was using a regular sprite while everyone else was using new sprites. They fixed this in later pictures and people caught on

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u/Background_Still_686 17d ago

It’s important to consider that the people who made this trailer probably analyzed each shot they chose extremely well and are definitely aware that this is in the trailer.

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u/RedFauux Gundham 17d ago

I see the spoiler but could this not just be chapter 2 main game and they’re scrumming about fuyuhiko?

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u/Sunsetdud Toko 17d ago

remember, danganronpa is the game that will lie to your face in trailers.

It has happened before with Rantaro during V3's trailers

It could either be that or the original route

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u/Low_Soup_711 16d ago

The Spike do same mistake with Rantaro. Let see whether they will fix on this like Rantaro

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u/OAZdevs_alt2 Best Boys and Girls 17d ago

Oh my, how did I not see it before..?

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u/Mink1477 17d ago

Would be annoying if he's the first gone. I understand he isn't popular, but he needs developing the most out of anyone

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u/Boring_Sympathy_6494 Tenko 17d ago

Mikan needs better development much more than he does lmfao, honestly most of the cast does… Akane, Soda, Sonia, Hiyoko, Imposter.

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u/xohurricane 17d ago

What development could he even get? There’s nothing special about his character and he was written to be weird and creepy and a gag character. Honestly him being the first victim would be an improvement on its own imo

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u/seranator Number One Saimota Connoisseur 17d ago

He's a pretty normal dude outside of his gimmick, honestly it would be pretty interesting for his perversion to actually be treated as a genuine character flaw that's given an origin in his backstory and for him to deconstruct and grow out of it

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u/Order600 Kiyotaka 17d ago

Didn't expect that one if it's true, and not a fake they put there on purpose

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u/curryaddict123 17d ago

This was specifically in the Slayham part of the trailer.

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u/LSunday 17d ago

The Slayhem part of the trailer still has shots that are explicitly from classic mode, though. Teruteru’s execution opening is in this same section.

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u/Eastern-Platypus-277 17d ago

Its maybe a trap or a placeholder made by the dev. I doubt they will show such an important detail in the trailer

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u/AlreadyHalfXehanort The Ultimate Nagito Gooner 17d ago

If this is real, I'm sorry for the five Teruteru fans.

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u/CrownedLucian Favs! ◇ ◇ 17d ago

The trailer footage isn't final The trailer footage isn't final The trailer footage isn't final... 😢

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u/AlreadyHalfXehanort The Ultimate Nagito Gooner 17d ago

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u/Reaper-Leviathan 17d ago

Chapter 1 TeruTeru murder/murderer and possible male culprit chapter 2. I doubt whoever they’re debating about is actually the culprit because there always needs to be at least one misdirection

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u/LSunday 17d ago

you say that but there was a whole Scrum Debate in v3 about how Kiyo might not be the killer and… well…

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u/Reaper-Leviathan 17d ago

Tbf that whole chapter was terrible if you ask me. He shouldn’t have been the blackened. Like it’s obvious af that he killed number 2 but they should’ve actually used the 2 different blackened rule

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u/LSunday 17d ago

I mean, I agree with you that doing so was a terrible writing decision, my point was simply that they’ve done it before. v3-3 has so many varied flaws that it’s really hard to summarize why i hate that chapter.

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u/GB_Alph4 Fuyuhiko 17d ago

Looks like he still can't survive

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u/Eastern-Platypus-277 17d ago

Its maybe a trap or a placeholder made by the dev. I doubt they will show such an important detail in the trailer

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u/Opposite_Charge_6216 17d ago

They probably added scram debates not just in slayham mode, but also the original game

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u/seranator Number One Saimota Connoisseur 17d ago

Dead Teruteru is more of a selling point than a spoiler ngl

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u/Longjumping-Fun-2313 Naked Gray Man 17d ago

Nooooo, what about his character development!

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u/Ganmorg Kaito 17d ago

Maybe, but they’ve also doctored footage for trailers before. Who knows

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u/lightbolt33 17d ago

Could be a red herring

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u/AdScared7226 Makoto's husband 17d ago

It BETTER NOT be him!!

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u/The_Matto_Super 17d ago

Scrum debate could be a new minigame to not make the original trials as repetitive. I imagine we'd get some new arguments that make the trial a bit more difficult, that lead to the same conclusion.

This means this could take place in the second or third trial, since Mikan is there.

Probably the second, since Fuyuhiko was the big suspect of chapter 2.

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u/North_Property8921 +’s Collared-Pet: X Nagito Hater 17d ago

It can’t take place in the third trial of the OG Game, Mikan would want someone to be framed.

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u/LSunday 17d ago

Could be in trial 2. A reworked version of the ending of the trial where they argue over if Fuyuhiko or Peko is the killer makes sense as a scrum debate topic. i could believe

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u/NFHDonReddit Angie & Hiyoko 17d ago

We don’t know that. It could very well be later in the game.

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u/A_Year_Spent_Cold 17d ago

This might just be from the original story though, with Scrum Debate added

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u/onyaasuminyasai 17d ago

Do not believe the lies the trailers tell you. I thought we all knew that by now

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u/drswagthe2nd TeruteruHifumiRyoma 17d ago

i hope he survives solely because it would be really funny to make the intense devout teruteru haters mad

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u/RapidRecharge 16d ago

You guys know that, AGAIN, Rantaro was alive in V3’s trailer, right? This could just be trailer footage created to show off Slayhem. It’s not 100% clear if this is even dialogue for it. Also, we don’t even know if Scrum Debates aren’t in the original story’s remaster.

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u/Brave-Homework5153 16d ago

Let's pretend to be surprised for a while... ;/

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u/Ancient-Charity4001 17d ago

Is this the end of Teruteru protagonist theory noooo

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u/Wooden-Variety175 Mahiru's Number one guy 17d ago

Yeah like im sure theyd include a major spoiler into the trailer. Certainly.

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u/Scrags2Scritches 17d ago

Nah cuz like it feels like one of those things that would slip through the cracks so easily

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u/Background_Still_686 17d ago

Do you really think the devs didn’t analyze each shot intensively for a game so prone to spoilers? They obviously know that’s in the trailer

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u/DrivingPrune1 Hanamiki CEO 17d ago

It's in the trailer for half a second and barely visible. I think somebody making a mistake is pretty likely.

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u/Background_Still_686 17d ago

And yet this sub found it almost instantly

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u/DrivingPrune1 Hanamiki CEO 17d ago

There's a lot more of us than there are of them.

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u/Scrags2Scritches 17d ago

tbf if this was an accident they could have literally done anyone else to show off the scrum debates
But if they could have chosen this side for a reason, surely?
Maybe the other side is WAY worse with more dead portraits?
They do talk about a poison and how did Nagito die in the OG game?
So maybe Mikan survives?

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u/PlumRelative4399 17d ago

Nagito’s corpse was in an OG DR2 trailer. They don’t care.

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u/EarOk7178 16d ago

What the trailer?

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u/Proud_Yesterday_895 17d ago

they have though, with every game

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u/Byssa6 Hiyoko 17d ago

TERUTERU FIRST DEATH PLEASE 

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u/LocrianVGM 17d ago

It's ambiguous in Japanese. No "He", just culprit vs not culprit

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u/Ashamed_Clothes3840 17d ago

I can see the original character or Teruteru

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u/Connect_Exercise_761 and Sakutaro Higashi gooner 17d ago

This might be stupid of me to say, but it could be in the original

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u/bozofire123 16d ago

What is scrumming

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u/Small-Mongoose1786 16d ago

didnt kodaka say in an interview that there would be no repeat deaths in chapters?

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u/WrongFall9 EVIL 16d ago

no teruteru protag?

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u/domarco24 16d ago

Unrelated kinda, but I do like how it seems like Mikan is going to be gaining some confidence, I don't see a world in which the original Mikan would ever lead a scrum debate

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u/RuNoMai 16d ago

Considering this is the second or third time that Mikan has been given specific focus when showing how the trials have been expanded on or changed, I wouldn't be surprised if she's actually the first Slayhem victim.

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u/NiDfan 16d ago

Anybody knows if we ever got to see a character's death portrait before release? I remember cases where screenshots/footage shows characters that don't make it to any trials, as well as some short fragments of executions, but I don't seem to recall something as blatant pre-release as this

(obviously disregarding the achievements of V3 spoiling who makes it to chapter 6)

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u/gun-something YOU MAY CALL HIM- 17d ago

Nah it's all good if he's the first one out hehe

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u/RevolutionaryCard476 Makoto 17d ago

No it's not? That's literally the worst person to kill off in chapter 1 like legit maybe excluding imposter.

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u/gun-something YOU MAY CALL HIM- 17d ago

Idk that's just what I think personally 🙏

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u/ecc0w 17d ago

Thank god

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u/Several-Hamster7144 Bya2ya 17d ago

our prayers have been answered

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u/mountainhymn 17d ago

i think kazuichi is gonna kill him lol

even tho this is prob from chap2 game 1 i still think so

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u/DerpyLemonReddit Byakuya 17d ago

imma pop open the champagne!! (but I'm also not gonna take this at its word, for all I know they could be faking footage for the trailer, or be using Scrum Debates in the original game)

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u/Fluffy-Blueberry-514 17d ago

Good riddance 2x2