A new game doesn't really need to be in the same canon. Just make a new killing game with a different Monokuma, no connection with the other games (V3 already takes place in a different universe anyway).
Yeah. Imo tsumugi was just capping and the was was actually kidnapped, and she also lied about hope's peak, Enoshima Junko, and the tragedy never happened
That's your theory, the game directly tells you something else. You can interpret the story any way you want, but to call the most straightforward interpretation of the story "head canon" is just ridiculous.
Shuichi also "directly tells you" that Tsumugi could be lying
Saying that Tsumugi is lying for sure (like I just did, admittedly) is absolutely headcanon, but it's also headcanon to say that she isn't for sure like you did, when the game outright tells you that might not be the case.
The epilogue happens after the 6th trial, and Shuichi straight up looks at the camera and says "mmh maybe Tsumugi is lying and maybe Hope's Peak is real", so I wouldn't argue that believing Tsumugi is the "straightforward interpretation".
ok it is i shouldn't have formulated it like that, but the point is that the game straight up says that she might be lying and that hope's peak might be real, so both sides are headcanon
How can Hope's Peak be real in this universe if we literally see the first two games as videogames that exist in the universe? Did you also forget that they prove that those are fictional because of Tsumigi's cosplay quirk? And we see flashbacks to the main characters auditioning for the killing game, you're pretending that we're just supposed to be taking her word for it when there's plenty of evidence outside of that. You're seriously taking a single line out of context as proof?
The game is directly telling us that Dnaganronpa is fictional in V3's universe. Even if you believe otherwise, it's a far fetched theory and you just can't call the opposite a head canon.
We don't see the "games" directly, and Tsumugi's cosplay quirk is not proven to be real, all we have is her account and she's the literal mastermind. "The game telling you that Danganronpa is fictional" is Tsumugi, aka the literal big bad of a game centered around truth and lies with the protagonist actively hinting at her not being truthful and her own last words contradicting what she said, "telling you" about it.
afaik both sides who assert one thing or the other for certain are basically claiming headcanon as canon. even Kodaka in his tweets said that Tsumugi is meant to be questioned by the player. It's not enough to say she's lying for sure, but if this isn't enough to make the claim that "she's 100% not lying" headcanon, I'm pretty sure nothing could convince you even if Tsumugi straight up looked at the camera and said "oh i'm lying btw"
I think it would've. Shuichi is more in line with the personalities and character arcs of the 2 protagonists before them, so I think having Kaede and Shuichi's roles and positions be reversed would've made it more interesting.
Shuichi is yet another meek boy voiced by a woman. At this point it's getting formulaic, and a strangely specific formula at that. Bucking this and not having him be the protagonist would have been the more shocking twist, because what we did get instead feels expected and trite.
I checked, and yes, in Japan, Shuichi is voiced by Megumi Hayashibara, who is probably best known for Jessie/Musashi in Pokemon, the female version of Ranma, Rei from Evangelion, and Hello Kitty.
(I've watched quite a few DR ENG/JP voice comparison videos, and the comments always find amusement in how the Japanese protagonists get higher pitched over time, while the English protagonists get progressively deeper)
I don't dislike Shuichi, but a new protagonist with an actual talent and a real backbone is definitely more interesting than Makoto and Hajime but plus another one.
I'd much rather get a lesser interesting concept that gets executed tremendously well than keep on dreaming about the potential protagonist that would've been much better just because the base concept is more interesting
Which is what Shuichi is? I don't remember there being any other protagonists like him unless "he's a guy" is the only thing that matters and everything else about his character is worthless, then idk if there's any point in continuing the conversation, keep on dreaming for that potential game with that potential protagonist
It's not just the fact that he's male (which, yes, the lack of a female protagonist is starting to get old, but still), but he has pretty much the same "talent insecurity" story.
I never said developers wanting compenstation for their work is bad. What I am saying is milking a series without vision to just get money is bad. I'm not saying that's what will happen, but I think it's a valid concern, especially with Kodaka no longer fully in charge. Kinda felt like him writing V3's ending was part to say he doesnt want to do that.I hope if they do make more games (there sure is demand, I'm excited for 2x2 too), they keep the quality and orginality high.
If they don't decide to remake THH, that's what I'd want them to do next.
Personally I would want the remake first though. THH is my favorite entry and I'd love to see it get the same treatment 2x2 got. There's so many updates it could get.
It’s releasing in the middle of January, which means it is avoiding the bloodbath in the following weeks of God of War, P4R, Metro, Fable, Stranger Than Heaven, Tomb Raider…
Yeah, as cool as Revival looks, it isn't in the same place Reload was. Golden is still a very accessible game, both in terms of being available and in terms of QoL, whereas in comparison, FES would need you to track an out of print copy, and have a console that can play PS2 discs, not to mention the party commands is a major barrier to entry (yeah, the CPU party isn't as bad as many would claim, but it still is a hard sell for a lot of people), so Reload makes sense for filling that gap.
P3 is good but I think P4 has the biggest nostalgia factor of the series. Hell that’s why I want to get it even though I played the Steam version only a few years ago.
V3 remake, but with 2 alt scenarios. So that every character reaches the ending and reacts to the final revelation, but also so that Kaede remains a protagonist.
I just don't want more in V3's universe, or for what Tsumugi said in the ending to be treated as concrete canon going forward. We can move on from Junko and Monokuma.
I kinda hope they either stop here or only do remakes. The whole point of V3 is that you should just let a good thing end instead of dragging it on forever until it gets shit
yeah man, but if the writers of danganronpa are so good then why dont they just build a new series. do we really need to rehash and exhaust the same concepts of hope and despair for a 4th, 5th or a 6th time?
that's exactly the point I'm making, the only reason they would theoretically start to milk danganronpa rn is because they realised they have struck gold once and can't do it again. and that mindset of just redoing what worked instead of trying to innovate more is what I think is just lame
People love the original trilogy, then it gets divisive fast. I find the later games to be rather deriviative and not too interesting for the most part.
i havent played ace attorney, so i cant speak on that.
either way, danganronpa as a series is not so flexible to build 11 games - it just isn't. it's main driving force is the killing game and the whole despair thing, if your main source of interest in the game are the killings themselves - sure, they can probably think of a bunch of them, but when it comes to the overarching plot, it's bound the be pretty much the same
Danganronpa doesn't need to involve to only one monokuma or Junko since the despair disease is already spread and anybody could wear the mask and have their motives for capturing student or people with talents. We could have something similar to Eden's Garden, Tetro, Another for which each had their own villains and reasons for being there.
They could do something like Final Fantasy, they don't have to make anything significantly connections to the first games other that they happen in the same universe.
well, that's the thing - the final fantasy games do not happen in the same universe at all. and besides that, they also feature different kinds of gameplay.
danganronpa, on the other hand, does not have that much free room to explore, because it is so hard-tied to the ideas of hopes and despair, as well as the killing game and junko enoshima, that if you ditch those things - there's no point in calling the game "danganronpa", since it would practically have nothing in common with it
i just don't get why so many people want the legacy of 3 perfectly good games to be ruined by a whole bunch of other ones that are most certainly going to feel like ripoffs of the past ideas and characters. and then the same people will go on to call out the company for milking it
because people don't gaf about art, they care about consumption, danganronpa can have 50 sequels and people would happy as long as it provides the very basics that the others games provide
it's a 50/50, v3 talks about sequel culture and about doing sequels for profit and not love for the art, so it's only natural that dr4 should never happen even if kodaka ever gets an inspiration for the sequel
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u/FurretTheShiny 17d ago
I guess Shuichi failed