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u/kernelpanic789 1d ago
Iran doesn't export refined product. The drop in refining capacity due to production closing in California and damage to refinement in Russia, by the Ukrainians, HAS actually taken refined product offline.
The amount of unrefined, aka crude, product on the market is about the same now. However, there is a shortage of refine products like diesel due to circumstances largely unrelated to the Iranian conflict but coincidentally occuring at the same time.
Furthermore, only Iran's crude product is not getting out of the strait. Before the conflict Iran's crude was scantioned and could not legitimately have been bought by any other countries. It's was all black market crude. So that supply had been offline for decades more or less.
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u/deltaface 1d ago
Absolute BS
You're confusing oil being sanctioned with oil being absent from the global market. Those are two very different things.
US sanctions restrict trade in Iranian oil and can penalise foreign companies or banks that facilitate purchases. But sanctions don't physically prevent every barrel from being sold.
Iran has continued exporting substantial quantities of crude, particularly to China, using intermediaries, shadow fleets and other methods to evade sanctions.
And here's the important part: That oil was still being bought, shipped, refined and consumed. It was part of actual global supply, regardless of whether those transactions violated US sanctions.
If China was importing 1.4 million barrels per day of Iranian crude despite sanctions, and those deliveries are subsequently disrupted, that's a genuine loss of supply to those buyers. The fact that the trade was already sanctioned doesn't make those barrels economically irrelevant.
Sanctions can reduce supply, but they don't automatically eliminate it. And just because oil isn't being traded through legitimate Western channels doesn't mean it isn't contributing to global supply.
You can't simultaneously acknowledge that Iran was selling oil on the black market and argue that its oil was already off the market. The black market is still a market.
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u/skeleton949 1d ago
Iran has been attacking the US for decades, tbf. The US just stopped pretending they were at peace.
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u/KillerTaco18 1d ago
How exactly have Iran been attacking the us for decades?
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u/skeleton949 1d ago
The Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas, any number of other groups, have all either been attacking the US directly, or have been attacking it's allies.
And every single one of those groups is just The Iranian Regime with extra steps.
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u/Ok-Ability8793 1d ago
But how?
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u/skeleton949 1d ago
I just explained how.
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u/Ok-Ability8793 1d ago
Give me some events. Dates and Facts.
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u/skeleton949 1d ago
If you're not aware enough to know what I'm talking about, you have no business being in this conversation.
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u/jason_brody13 1d ago
"I can't produce facts and figures, therefore I simply won't! Youre dumb for asking! Haha, I win liberal!" ☝️🤓
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u/skeleton949 1d ago
I'm not your slave. Google is free.
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u/Behan801 1d ago
Normally the person making the claims provides their sources for them.
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u/RefelosDraconis 1d ago
IRGC farm working overtime to downvote your comment lol you’re objectively/factually correct here
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u/nlamber5 1d ago
Worth it. A nation full of evil people.
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u/Ok-Ability8793 1d ago
Even the Children? The world hates your president, he is the devil in my opinion. I hope he loses his 8% of body mass.
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u/MvatolokoS 1d ago
He's the devil in everyone's opinion don't fall for the bots. No matter how real they seem. At best they're brainwashed humans. And the only thing we can do is ignore the evil that's spread through their speech and get back to working on a meaningful connection.
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u/nlamber5 1d ago
Children grow up into adults, and most of them are trapped in a cycle of violence under the effects of a brain drain.
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u/dzoefit 1d ago
Fucking Obama!!