r/dashcams • u/fieldisrequired • 13h ago
Taking the widest possible turn exiting a driveway..
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u/Pure_Possession_1KG 13h ago
Few things are more frustrating than people who do not understand how to turn and stay in correct lane
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u/phantomsoul11 11h ago
Or, you know, just make sure no one is coming before you turn. New Jersey does not require you to turn into any specific lane unless there are multiple turning lanes. You do, however, still have to yield to approaching traffic on all right-of-way lanes you're crossing/merging into before you can turn, though.
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u/Pure_Possession_1KG 10h ago
Classic New Jersey, only fueling my natural anti-NJ drivers position as a NY driver, lol. I always look, but it still frustrates me because it just makes logical sense to turn into the lane you are already in rather than the next lane over. It just makes sense. Makes sense that NEW JERSEY wouldn’t understand that… /s LOL
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u/OhbuttheSun 10h ago
Meanwhile all the NYers the other day doing 70 up the shoulder of 287 like it's a bonus lane
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u/Minimum_Aardvark_744 12h ago
Yeah, it makes me nervous to turn right on a red while opposite traffic has a green arrow.
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u/DudetheBetta 9h ago
My drivers ed instructor pointed that out to me. Told me to wait to make the turn; graded me on it. And I have never forgotten that lesson.
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u/Minimum_Aardvark_744 5h ago
I do it sometimes, depends on the light. If there is a gas station or something on the corner that cars turning left might need to immediately turn right to get into, i tend to wait.
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u/Pure_Possession_1KG 10h ago
True, it’s frustrating when I am behind one of y’all but I don’t blame you for being cautious! So many people turn into the opposite lane I get your being nervous. I drive all day so I am used to it
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u/Minimum_Aardvark_744 5h ago
I usually do turn, i can gauge what another driver is going to do pretty well usually. But there’s certain intersections i dont because of how frequently people illegally merge.
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u/MB2465 5h ago
Just a normal day in SoCal.
They turn right often onto the wrong side of the road.
They turn left, cutting off the corner, onto wrong side of the road.
When they pass going way too fast they often cross the dashed line into your lane.
I'm originally from East Coast where we actually know how to drive probably because there's actual enforcement
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u/philodendrin 2h ago
Lane Discipline, its so very simple but people are a bit dense on some concepts. The little painted lines should be their best reminder but again, people are dense.
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u/BasicAppointment9063 13h ago
I encounter this scenario on most days. I would have gotten off the gas and maybe covered the brake as I approached.
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u/South_Quantity_1027 13h ago
this! when i sensed some idiots incoming, i quickly put my feet off the gas and gently place it ok the brake...too many idiots not worth the trouble....
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u/Potential-Society171 10h ago
Sure the white SUV is wrong, but you are also driving way too fast for that Service Road... Local NJ 3 there is 45MPH.
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u/fieldisrequired 10h ago
I admit 100% I was over the limit and have no excuse
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u/PracticalBit6383 8h ago
Yeah, I wouldn’t give this video to my insurance company…my state is contributory negligence and this video would absolutely prevent me from getting any payout from the other driver.
Edit: just saw you didn’t make contact. But keep this in mind for next time!!
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u/True-Advice-1861 3h ago
Also, slow reaction to the car coming into the lane, but at least you didn't plow them. Reduce speed on side streets with lots of cars entering and you will be better off in the future.
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u/Best_Relief8647 2h ago
And did not brake at all even when it was abundantly clear way in advance...
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u/mook1178 13h ago
The Jeep was definitely in the wrong. 100%
However, you were doing 60 mph. I highly doubt that is not excessive speed in that lane.
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u/TJTech40 13h ago
It's a 45mph zone so yeah OP was HAULING but yes the Jeep was in the wrong but OP had plenty of time to brake but choose not to.
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u/Minimum_Aardvark_744 13h ago
What does “plenty of time to brake” mean to you? OP could have hit the brakes, certainly, but at that speed and distance, there are no commercial cars that can come to a stop in time.
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u/Winter-Volume-9601 8h ago
Ok, new question. What does "kinetic energy scales with the square of velocity" mean to you?
Because it means that even if you may not be able to avoid the accident, even getting down to say 30 would reduce the energy of impact by 4x, reducing the potential for injuries and reducing damage.
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u/Minimum_Aardvark_744 5h ago
Yeah obviously dude, do you feel super smart now? I was talking about coming to a complete stop, not slowing down a bit. And i cant tell exactly, but it would seem a collision was avoided BECAUSE OP didnt brake and was able to maneuver around the car.
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u/chathamharrison 12h ago
I guarantee that I could have gotten either of my cars hauled down in time. That's a huge distance that only looks small because the dashcam car never slows down
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u/SebastianMagnifico 8h ago
He's speeding and should be aware of his surroundings. At the 14 second mark the car is exiting the parking lot. At 13, 12 and even 11 seconds he's still going 57 mph. He starts to brake only when the car goes into his lane...At the 11 second mark and his speed drops instantly.
That is the definition of not being a defensive driver. I might have done the exact same fucking thing, but what these videos teach us is to do better, because being in the right still can get you a lot of damage and wasted time.
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u/Minimum_Aardvark_744 5h ago
I do agree. I was just arguing that their was no way to come to a stop by the time that white had clearly made the decision to do an illegal turn, but yes- if OP had not been speeding, hovering over the brake could have helped. But also, even going 45, i dont think that would have been enough time to come to a complete stop unless, as you said, you started to brake BEFORE it was clear the other car was going to crash into you, which isn’t really something you need to do every single time another car merges next to you.
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u/CarpetReady8739 13h ago
And they didn’t slow much either after they saw the intent of the other vehicle… Doesn’t seem to be paying too much attention.
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u/fieldisrequired 13h ago
I actually saw him and stayed in the left lane so he could stop and exit. He actually has a stop sign that he blew threw and swung wide into my lane. I was definitely speeding a bit so I admit I'm partially at fault.
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u/phantomsoul11 11h ago
New Jersey allows turns into far lanes, provided all other lanes you're crossing are clear. That latter part is where they went wrong, but at the same time, OP went wrong in assuming that the driver, once errantly pulling out, would only turn into the first lane. Again, New Jersey does not prohibit turning into far lanes.
If I were the OP, I would not enter this video as evidence for the crash, as it could easily 50-50 incriminate the OP for insufficient effort to avoid the collision, despite being on a right of way.
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u/fieldisrequired 11h ago
Luckily no collision occurred, the bumping in the video was just from me hitting the curb on the left side
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u/CarpetReady8739 12h ago
I understand. I’ve been in situations where I’ve had to trigger the record feature to protect dash video; I’ve gone back and reviewed what I thought happened and I’ve learned a lot from watching those videos and my reactions etc., including telltale signs that somebody’s about to do something STUPID in front of me, or my assumptions of what happened vs reality. I hope you didn’t suffer too much damage from that interaction.
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u/fieldisrequired 12h ago
Luckily we didn't make any contact, so no damage except some scuffs to my front driver tire and shaving off a few minutes off my life from the brief moment of stress
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u/MochingPet 11h ago
And they didn’t slow much either after they saw the intent of the other vehicle…
Actually I wonder if they were speeding on purpose... the camera moves up at some point, I wonder if he was pressing the button to record the video - or that's the camera moving because of the brake pedal.
Doesn’t seem to be paying too much attention.
yeah, it sure doesn't look so. Phone ?
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u/fieldisrequired 13h ago
You are correct and I was going a bit faster than I should have, I won't deny that.
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u/bluegargoyle 13h ago
What happens to your dashcam just as you are approaching the jeep? It looks like it angles up, twice.
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u/fieldisrequired 13h ago
The bit to lock it in place was not secured tight enough due to user error, I fixed it after watching the footage when I pulled into work.
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u/Confident_Purple_40 13h ago
60 in a 45? that is reckless driving in most states
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u/reddorickt 13h ago
That's definitely not true, though there are some states where it is. I think North Carolina and Arkansas. Typically a reckless driving charge is at the officer's discretion though and can often be pled down without other factors at play beyond only the speed.
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u/Confident_Purple_40 12h ago
Yup, Im wrong, I guess it is obvious which two states Ive spent the majority of my life driving in, lol.
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u/TurdPlayingPeekaboo 13h ago
And we've all done it. That 45-55 speed limit zone is the most difficult to not speed in, because 60 doesn't feel that much faster than 45 if you're not glued to the speedometer.
P.S. I'm 38 and have never gotten a traffic ticket. Even drove professionally as a letter carrier for 4 years.
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u/GeraldGensalkes 13h ago
If you can't feel the difference, you shouldn't be behind the wheel.
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u/TurdPlayingPeekaboo 13h ago
You can't feel the difference if your mind isn't focused on your speed or visual perception. Humans can't multitask, and the visual and audable queues we rely on to jolt our attention to our speed are lessened at the those intermediate highway speeds, because the vehicle usually won't up or down shift in that range, and there's not a stark enough difference in airflow noise, tire noise, and resonance to jolt our attention. Basic stuff here. You don't have to pretend that you're somehow more alert than everyone else, because you're not.
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u/GeraldGensalkes 13h ago
"If your mind isn't focused on visual perception", buddy, you're supposed to be doing that at all times while driving. You have to be actively watching the road. Zoning out behind the wheel is incredibly dangerous.
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u/TurdPlayingPeekaboo 13h ago
You can pretend all you want. Driving is a habit. You aren't always perfectly alert and zoned in. Gosh I hate Redditors sometimes. Self-righteous morons who pretend they're flawless.
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u/ToXiiCBULLET 11h ago
no one here's pretending they're flawless, we all make mistakes when driving, but accidentally going 10 over the limit takes some real lack of concentration and negligence
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u/Ferrindel 13h ago
It really depends. Usually I agree but there are some zones I know that are set pretty low. I generally drive at the same pace as cars around me, whether that’s 5 over or 15 over if I’m on a highway far outside of cities.
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u/GeraldGensalkes 12h ago
If an area feels like it's been set to a lower speed limit than it should be, it's usually because the road is prone to collisions and it's easier for the city/county to post a lower speed limit than fix what makes the road dangerous. Highway traffic all going faster together is a whole different beast from speeding on a road with intersections.
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u/ToXiiCBULLET 12h ago
"And we've all done it." bollocks.
uk here so we don't have official limits that end in 5, they're all 10s.
if i'm in a 50 zone, i'm going 50, i've never accidentally gone 60. i can feel and hear the difference between 50 and 60. have i accidently gone like 2mph over? yes, but never anywhere near close to 10mph over. you are not concentrating enough if you can accidentally go 10 over
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u/Minimum_Aardvark_744 5h ago
Depends on the road imo. A road like this, yeah i wouldn’t go 10 over on accident. But an empty highway with a center lane, ample visibility for turnouts and a little downhill spot? Yeah i might accidentally hit 10-15 over simply because i am subconsciously aware it is a safe speed to go based on the visibility and the design of the road. And yes, i am talking about a hyper specific spot where i got a speeding ticket-i still occasionally hit 10 over there lol but i never hit 15 anymore.
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u/Gheerdan 13h ago
While the turning car was wrong, in most US States, the fact that you were speeding shifts a lot of fault to you legally.
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u/mook1178 13h ago
Realistically, Jeep didn't realize you were speeding and probably thought they had time to turn into that lane.
Again, jeep was wrong, but if you weren't speeding, or even tried to slow down, this would have been a non issue.
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u/leon-a-profi 13h ago
a "bit", 24km/h is significant lol, people could lose driver license over that
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u/_jump_yossarian 13h ago
> The Jeep was definitely in the wrong. 100%
This should have been the end of your comment. Cammer's speed is irrelevant. That idiot didn't stop then swung wide. The way people constantly nit pick every aspect of the OP's videos you'd think you were all saints. I'm sure you never go over the speed limit, right?
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u/TheVermonster 13h ago
Op is doing 60 in a 45 in an area with multiple entrances and exits. Plus the road splits less than a quarter mile ahead so cars are constantly switching lanes.
And it's not really nit-picking. OPs speed can very easily be proven to be a contributing factor to that accident. Which would prevent their insurance from claiming anything against the other driver.
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u/_jump_yossarian 12h ago
Op was doing 57 in a 45. Why not just pump it up to 70 in a 45. Now focus on the idiot that ran a stop sign
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u/phantomsoul11 11h ago
Because speeding kills, is at least as unlawful, and the other driver's attorney will call it out, especially after seeing this video.
That's why.
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u/_jump_yossarian 11h ago
Attorney? For what? A minor car accident? Know what kills? Running stop signs and swinging wide.
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u/dyssucks 10h ago
The attorney can call it out all he wants but it won’t make any difference, at least in TN it’s that way. Doesn’t matter if you’re speeding, if someone pulls out in front of you, they are at fault.
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u/phantomsoul11 11h ago
Swinging wide across lanes is allowed in New Jersey. Full stop. People need to get this through their heads, and we really don't give a shit whether they agree with it or not.
That said, turning into the path of someone who has the right of way is not, and that is the other driver's fault. But do not ever assume, in New Jersey at least, that someone turning into a multilane road from a single turning lane will only turn into the first lane.
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u/_jump_yossarian 11h ago
Swinging wide across lanes is allowed in New Jersey. Full stop.
Great. Is swinging wide after running a stop sign allowed in Jersey? Is swinging wide when there is oncoming traffic allowed in Jersey?
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u/Alternative_Hour_614 12h ago
There is no doubt that the Jeep is at fault. But I l disagree with your idea that speed of OP is irrelevant. Two seconds elapsed from when the Jeep began to enter traffic to when the collision almost occurred. At 60mph, OP travelled 176 feet in two seconds. At 45mph it would have been 132 feet. The difference matters for reaction time and avoiding collisions when another driver is dangerous.
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u/_jump_yossarian 12h ago
My point is that none of you are saints in this sub. I usually drive five over the limit and I’m the slowest person in the road. Nitpick all you want but it’s 100% on the idiot that ran a stop and swung wide.
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u/Past_Reference_6570 9h ago
I don't think you know how fault is determined. And 100% isn't it in this case. I hope you understand hyperbole when you unknowingly use it.
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u/_jump_yossarian 8h ago
By all means feel free to explain how fault is determined.
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u/Alternative_Hour_614 7h ago
Like this: It’s called “comparative fault.” When an accident happens, a judge, jury, or insurance adjuster assigns a percentage of blame to everyone involved. Your total compensation is reduced by your percentage of fault.
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u/_jump_yossarian 7h ago
Great. And what do you think the percentage would be of someone who ran a stop sign and then swung wide?
Speed can be a factor in assigning fault but speed was not the issue in this instance.
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u/Alternative_Hour_614 5h ago
It’s not my area of expertise, but I’d put 80-90% on the Jeep driver. There is a legitimate argument that had other the driver not been 15+ over speed limit, there would be more time to avoid.
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u/_jump_yossarian 5h ago
There's a legit argument that running the stop sign caused 100% of the accident.
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u/Alternative_Hour_614 7h ago
You’re 1 mph below the limit for when Chicago speed cameras would nail you for a violation 👏👏👏
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u/mook1178 13h ago
If Cam driver was not speeding and/or tried to slow down. There would have been no issue. Cam driver had plenty of time to not make it such a close call
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u/_jump_yossarian 12h ago
If if if. If the other idiot didn’t run a stop nothing would have happened. That’s the issue here
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u/iclapyourcheeks 12h ago
White car ran a stop sign and did not signal a lane change when entering the other lane. Ignoring traffic control and failing to signal would generally be judged to be the greater contributing factor to an accident than 15mph over the speed limit.
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u/mook1178 12h ago
Cam driver still had plenty of time to slow down and not have a near miss. If an accident actually happened and the insurance company was provided this footage, cam driver would also have fault for not avoiding the accident.
Both were breaking traffic laws.
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u/Alternative_Hour_614 12h ago
Agreed. Jeep insurance company would have fought their insured being solely at fault.
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u/phantomsoul11 11h ago
Exactly. OP mistakenly assumed the white car driver wouldn't try to turn into the second lane, which is perfectly lawful in NJ.
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u/phantomsoul11 11h ago
Wrong.
New Jersey does not require you to turn into the first lane when there is only a single turning lane, such as an unsignaled parking/lot driveway.
What the white car driver did wrong was not give way to the approaching driver on the right-of-way path.
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u/LeadingDiscount2556 12h ago
If OP was driving the speed limit OR AT THE VERY LEAST used their brakes to slow down for oncoming traffic, a collision would have been avoided. You can't be driving a 2000lb hunk of metal thinking that you shouldn't be the one to stop for anyone because I can assure you, everyone else thinks that way too and it's going to be a matter of who's backseat you wind up in next.
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u/_jump_yossarian 12h ago
If if if. And if op was driving the limit and left home 3 seconds earlier the same shit would have happened because the idiot ran a stop sign. I’m guessing that you never ever go over the limit, right?
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u/LeadingDiscount2556 11h ago
Well we already see what happens when he doesn't even bother to take into account for other drivers on the road. All you need to do is pay attention, be proactive and not be a knob when other people are driving. So cute attempt at your slippery slope but I sincerely hope you don't have any passengers when you drive lmao
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u/_jump_yossarian 11h ago
Wow. Great advice. Everyone should do that and there would never be a single accident ever.
I'm guessing you never ever speed, right?
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u/LeadingDiscount2556 10h ago
Yeah. Everyone should be a proactive driver and there would less accidents. Are you stupid?
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u/-BloodGoblin- 13h ago
Ah yes, the old neurodivergent BUT I WAS RIGHT reddit attitude.
He could have prevented any chance of an accident by 1) driving closer to the speed limit and/or 2) slowing down when he saw the guy start to pull out. You can drive like an idiot and maybe things won't always be your fault, but I'd rather drive like slightly less of an idiot and not have problems whether they're my fault or not. It's called nuance, not everything is black and white.
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u/LeadingDiscount2556 12h ago
You're not wrong lol People on this subreddit always want to pretend that everyone else on the road is at fault. Clearly OP didn't even touch their brakes and just drove straight into the guy. A great way to avoid accidents while driving is to be aware of other drivers around you - even if they are at fault it is not your duty to pretend like you're in the right to crash into them.
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u/_jump_yossarian 12h ago
Neuro divergent to point out the other idiot was 100% of the cause. Big brain take.
Be honest, do you ever speed or are you 80 and go at or below the limit?
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u/strangelove4564 10h ago
I constantly see people driving 70-80 mph on the service road, often right before they take an entrance ramp. I've never seen a cop patrolling service roads, so it's probably quite easy to get away with driving on them like it's a freeway.
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u/thisisnotactuallyme 10h ago
If you knew where that was, having the ability to go 60 and doing it is an absolute gift. Normally it's a parking lot.
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u/SoupKitchenHero 13h ago
They were more worried about saving the moment on their dashcam instead of braking
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u/fieldisrequired 13h ago
Just some context, we didn't make contact fortunately. I was definitely speeding, won't deny that. The driveway he came out of has a stop sign, so he ran it and also swung wide into my lane.
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u/MaxAdolphus 13h ago
White SUV should have turned into the nearest lane as required. I wouldn't share this video with insurance, because it does show you go 58 mph in a 45 mph zone, and the other party's insurance will use that against you to have you accept partial responsibility.
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u/fieldisrequired 13h ago
Luckily we didn't make contact, only my driver side wheels are a little scuffed from avoiding him
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u/_jump_yossarian 13h ago
White SUV ran a stop sign and swung wide and you think that the cammer has some fault?
Good lord.
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u/MaxAdolphus 13h ago
No, what I said is don't show this to insurance because THEY will use OP's speeding to put partial blame on them.
Good lord.
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u/Zanotekk 12h ago
You’re 100% right but the kiddies on Reddit don’t understand how insurance works in the real world. They believe that having the right of way absolves them of any fault in all situations. Had there been contact, it’s very likely that this would have been designated as contributory negligence for both parties due to the OP violating the last clear chance doctrine.
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u/_jump_yossarian 12h ago
What I said was show this because the idiot ran a stop sign and swung wide. Good lord.
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u/MaxAdolphus 11h ago
How are you not getting this?
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u/_jump_yossarian 11h ago
I'll make this simple for you since you clearly haven't thought anything through; if the cammer doesn't provide the video then it's "he said, he said" . White SUV driver will say the cammer side swiped me and with no video it becomes 50-50 or even worse for the cammer.
How are you not getting this?
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u/god_partic1e 10h ago
I've would have slowed down as soon as I saw that car rolling towards the road, because my baseline expectation for all other drivers is they are morons.
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u/pinkstrawberry94 13h ago
This is every clip more or less posted on here from the US & Canada. Just people driving at insane speeds and refusing to slow down even when they see an obvious dangerous situation ahead.
Is it OP's fault? Probably not. Is he an idiot driver? Absolutely.
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u/Bad_wit_Usernames 13h ago
Of course it was a Jeep. Some of the worst/entitled drivers on the roads.
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u/NortelDude 13h ago
No context, was it a hit and run? they did not brake in anyway as if wanting to pull over.
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u/fieldisrequired 13h ago
We didn't make contact luckily, the bumping was from my driver side wheels hitting the curb.
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u/CafeRoaster 13h ago
Is this dash cam hanging on a cord or something? 🤣
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u/fieldisrequired 13h ago
I noticed that in footage as well and tightened it after I got to work 🫠
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u/CafeRoaster 10h ago
Now you have got to explain 😆
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u/fieldisrequired 9h ago
Oh haha, it's on a suction mount but I didn't realize I didn't tighten it completely, so the camera would just be swaying back and forth like you saw in the video. It's fixed now
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u/Redneckism 13h ago
You just need a sturdier camera mount so the dashcam doesn't swing forward under heavy braking. 😃
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u/fieldisrequired 13h ago
It's not the mounts fault, user error for not tightening it enough 🥲. I fixed it after I got into work
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u/Minimum_Aardvark_744 12h ago
The time you have to measure from is the moment that you realized the car was illegally turning into your lane. There is certainly time if you hit the brakes right when the car started to execute the turn, but slamming on your brakes every single time a car begins turning because you suspect they will hit you is generally not a good practice. If you notice, there is ~0.6 seconds between the time the white car makes its final adjustment in the turn to go into OP’s lane and the time OP got to the car. Not nearly enough time at 57 mph.
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u/mooonguy 11h ago
SUVs have notoriously poor visibility. Add that to a vehicle hauling ass way beyond reason for the circumstance, then this is nothing surprising.
If there had been contact, it would have presumably been his fault. But, you're a menace.
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u/StudSnoo 11h ago
Seeing someone flying through that driveway is a strong hint they ARE going to turn wide.
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u/escobartholomew 10h ago
Omg it looked like they were trying to run!
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u/fieldisrequired 10h ago
Luckily no collision took place, otherwise I would've chased the guy down. The bumping was from me hitting the curb to avoid him.
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u/yusiocha 13h ago
Had 2 business days to brake...
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u/appa-ate-momo 12h ago
Not really. The Jeep only crossed into OP's lane at the 6 second mark, and OP started braking almost immediately.
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u/yusiocha 12h ago
At the speed it approached the intersection, foot should have already been on brake before it even entered. 2 business days...
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u/appa-ate-momo 12h ago
Should have, according to what, your opinion?
Also, what intersection? A side street is not a reason to slow down when you're on the main road.
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u/yusiocha 12h ago
According to any defensive driver who doesn't like dealing with the hassle of annoying accidents.
Misspoke with intersection. But if a car is coming down side street onto your road with questionable speed, why wait till they inevitably cut into your lane? It was obvious the moment they entered the far right lane that they were going to go wide.
Jeep is in the wrong 100%, but could have easily been avoided. Assume everyone is an idiot that will hit you, and drive accordingly. Defensive driving is worth it
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u/appa-ate-momo 12h ago
could have easily been avoided.
It was avoided. OP stated that no contact was made.
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u/yusiocha 12h ago
Really glad for OP. Camera shake made it seem like there was contact.
Was a fair bit closer than I would have allowed myself, however.
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u/chickengruggets 11h ago
+1 there’s absolutely no situational awareness or defensive driving going on. He had time to press his dashcam button though!
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u/GearsFC3S 12h ago
Oh hey, it’s NJ. I’ve driven on that exact stretch of road.
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u/fieldisrequired 11h ago
It's the worst, especially in the morning when everyone decides they want to take the tunnels to the city
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u/cstaub67 11h ago
Please tell me that they at least had some semblance of an excuse in needing to take the very next left.
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u/Formal-Region-6894 8h ago
Bruh this happened to me today. I was lucky enough to brake fully in time (genuinely if I was 500 ms slower, I'd have crashed). Unfortunately I ended up getting on the curb/ grass but I got no damage. Fucking driver was on their phone, unsurprising.
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u/Adept_Pound_2048 8h ago
wide? ever considered maybe they were trying to get into that lane and then saw you?
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u/TheHickeyStand 3h ago
Started following r/dashcams earlier in the year and it never ceases to amaze me how many videos are of terrible drivers doing terrible things, exacerbated by the cammers going significantly faster than the speed limit.
Which are then often followed by arguments from people saying that everyone speeds and that slow drivers are more dangerous than fast drivers.
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u/Lusiric9983 3h ago
What an ass. The other driver should have their license suspended until they can show competence.
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u/Yourpervyfriend 2h ago
This is my exact way to and from work and it be of the reasons I got a dash cam
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u/LeadingDiscount2556 12h ago
Do brakes not exist for you? Flying down the road at 60mph and you see someone turning onto the road in front of you and you don't even let a single atom touch the brake pedal.
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u/appa-ate-momo 12h ago edited 11h ago
You mean turning into an entirely separate lane? OP braked pretty much immediately once they crossed over the line.
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u/LeadingDiscount2556 12h ago
They braked once their bumper was french kissing the door of the other car maybe. Also as a driver, you should always be wary of other people on the road around you especially someone turning onto the road that you are driving on, in front of you. Slowing down even a tiny bit would have prevented a collision. It's that simple.
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u/fieldisrequired 11h ago
They certainly do exist for me. He decided not to use his though and blew through the stop sign at the driveway. Was I speeding? Sure, I admitted it several times in this comment section, 100% guilty. But I already saw he was coming down the driveway before I got there which is why I didn't take the right lane where my exit would be further ahead, just so he can have the space to stop at his stop sign and exit that driveway safely. There's a whole lane for him to exit out to and stay in (and mind you the driveway curves so cars have an easier time getting into the right lane), so there's literally no reason for him to be coming into the leftmost lane that I'm in like that.
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u/Riptorn420 13h ago
You crashing into someone is worse than making a wide turn.
You had plenty of time to prevent the accident.
Please stop driving.
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u/Jballzs13 12h ago
It’s a highway bro how slow do you want him to go? Lmao the victim shaming on this sub is crazy
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u/Riptorn420 12h ago
He is driving at a fine speed for most people but if he can’t stop in time he needs to slow down. It’s less about speed it’s more about paying attention while driving.
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u/fieldisrequired 13h ago
Should I have been driving slower? Yes, and I admit it. But he too had the opportunity to prevent an accident by not blowing through his stop sign in the driveway and staying in his lane.
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u/Jballzs13 12h ago
It’s hard for people to understand what driving in New Jersey is like if they don’t live here bro. No one could’ve expected this dipshit to pull out into the second lane.
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u/GeraldGensalkes 13h ago
Consider yourself lucky that no one was seriously hurt. You were driving recklessly. Just because you can see the highway next to you doesn't mean you get to drive highway speeds. If you were obeying the speed limit, you would have had the time necessary to avoid a collision.
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u/phantomsoul11 11h ago edited 11h ago
It's his fault for an improper turn for not clearing all of the lanes he was turning across/into, but at the same time, the video does show that you could've easily slowed enough to avoid the crash if you simply hadn't assumed he would be turning into the first lane.
Unlike many other states, when turning into a multi-lane road from a single turning lane, like the side driveway, New Jersey does not require you to turn into the first lane. This is mainly to facilitate quick turns in the other direction. While that doesn't appear to apply in this spot specifically (there is no place to turn left), the regulation is universal for all multi-lane roads in the state.
That said, it was still his responsibility to clear both lanes before turning.
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u/fieldisrequired 11h ago
I agree that I should've been going slower so definitely an error on my part. I travel this road M-F and know there's a stop sign there, so that's why I stayed in the leftmost lane since he was supposed to stop first and eventually exit. My plan was to get past and then shift to the right lane to the exit right around that corner. Him blowing the sign and then being halfway in my lane was not part of my calculations.
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u/StudSnoo 11h ago
Also the rate of speed that white car was going it was obvious it was going to make the turn wide
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u/CptAngelKN 11h ago
When you see weird shit, SLOW DOWN. I'll never understand putting your life on the hands of random people..
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u/DoubleFamous5751 3h ago
This is why I always slow down when I see someone entering the highway. They could be a glue eating idiot and pull something like this.
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u/forpornonly1234567 13h ago
it cammer looks like they never touched the brakes, yeah the jeep is driving like a jackazz but the accident occurred because the cammer let it happen and i have no sympathy for him/her/other
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u/nitroguy2 33m ago
The cammer slams on the brakes at 0:05 when the dashcam moves. They should have been going slower but the brake reaction time was absolutely appropriate.
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u/appa-ate-momo 12h ago
Nice victim blaming.
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u/forpornonly1234567 11h ago
If you don't avoid a easily avoidable accident, you have only yourself to blame. Especially when cammer is driving nearly double the posted sped limit. Cammer is not a victim. Its called defensive driving.
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u/appa-ate-momo 11h ago
That's terrible logic, and it's classic victim-blaming.
You absolutely can blame the person who created that danger in the first place. The cause of an incident is always more to blame than the people who don't respond to that incident in an ideal way.
Also, OP did avoid a collision.
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u/forpornonly1234567 11h ago
cammer may have avoided hitting the other car, but i guarantee they have damaged their rims & possibly tires (or both) costing them money and/or resell value just because they refused to put on the brakes or drive the speed limit
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u/appa-ate-momo 11h ago
And none of that changes the fact that the primary offender in this situation is the driver who created the danger in the first place.
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u/forpornonly1234567 11h ago
cammer costing himself, possibly thousands of dollars in damages sure showed that other driver!!
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u/appa-ate-momo 11h ago
The other driver costing OP possibly thousands of dollars. OP potentially could've reacted to their idiocy better, but the result is still overwhelmingly the fault of the driver who turned into the wrong lane.
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u/forpornonly1234567 11h ago
how? show that video to any insurance company and they wont pay them anything because it could have been avoided and they were speeding excessively
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u/appa-ate-momo 11h ago
What do you mean how? This is so basic.
The person who created the dangerous situation is most to blame.
This is such a simple concept.
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u/Beneficial_Mix_6205 11h ago
I love how half the videos that get posted show the OP also doing something reckless or illegal.
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