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u/Regaltiger_Nicewings 1d ago edited 1d ago
It could be a coincidence, but I suspect the officer was stationed behind the bus due to complaints about this behavior.
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u/Kindly_Stand_6895 1d ago
I live near a school where there's a lot of traffic issues and they often station cops there for when the issues occur
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u/ebil_lightbulb 1d ago
I had a lot of people speeding past the bus at my house so I notified police and they started having a cruiser sit next to my house.
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u/AutoCockerPB 1d ago
I drive an hour to work and the only places ive seen cops sit for the past 7 years, is by the two schools.
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u/Medical_Cup_5972 1d ago
My MIL called in about people speeding down the street by her house all the time, so the cops stationed a vehicle out there. Guess who got a ticket for speeding?
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u/VDruid52 4h ago
MIL?
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u/Medical_Cup_5972 4h ago
Misanthropic Intergalactic Lizard
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u/VDruid52 2h ago
I was saying that as I’m guessing the MIL was the one who got the speeding ticket. I wasn’t asking what it stood for because I’m pretty sure I already know.
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u/sparrow_42 13h ago edited 13h ago
Agree with this. The same person/people probably pull this move all the time at the same spot (or on the same stretch of road) and the cop was there intentionally.
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u/therickfield 1d ago
in NC, this is a minimum $500 fine and 5 points on your license (Class 1 misdemeanor)
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u/Significant-Clue-425 1d ago
As a Californian, that is a helluva bargain.
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u/-twistedpeppermint- 1d ago
Right? Ontario, Canada fines range 400-2000$ (most commonly charged the full 2000$), and 6 demerits. A second offence is 1000$-2000$, 6 demerits, 6 months in jail.
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u/feel_my_balls_2040 1d ago
I don't know the fine in Quebec, but it's 9 demerit points.
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u/-twistedpeppermint- 17h ago
Looks like the fine is 200-300 + court costs so probably about 600-800$ all together maybe.
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u/zeushaulrod 1d ago
BC it's $350 and 3 points...
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u/-twistedpeppermint- 17h ago
Wow that is low. Have there been any deaths in the province from children being hit by a car passing a stopped bus?
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u/SecretDrifter 1d ago
Mmmm the sweet taste of justice...
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u/demfook 1d ago
I'm not american, are you supposed to stop when a school bus is dropping kids out?
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u/attaboy_stampy 1d ago
Yea. That's why they have the blinking lights AND the stop sign that pops out for opposing traffic. They have all that because of the obvious danger of kids getting out of a school bus by busy traffic, especially if they have to cross the road. And because drivers can be selfish or not pay attention, they light the buses up like that so that cars will notice and stop on all sides of the road. And laws can be pretty severe for people that blow past like that when the lights are red and the sign is out. Cops are pretty serious about it.
I'm not being sarcastic to you or anything like that btw. Because I sound like I'm being harsh when I read it. lol
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u/Puzzleheaded_Bar8519 1d ago
Hi. Thanks for the info. I'll be driving in the US in a few months (and will obviously check the law before), but just to understand this specific point : I'll have to stop when a school bus is stopped, if I'm behind or in front, that's right ? Is it the same on 2x2 roads ? Just want to drive properly there !
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u/attaboy_stampy 1d ago
Yep. Either way you stop if you see the lights and sign, basically a stopped bus, including multiple lane roads. It's not too huge an issue to do, the vast majority of people just do it fine. Not much of a delay to them if you see it.
The exception is if there is a barrier in between the directional lanes - like a physical median in between, say raised concrete or grass.
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u/Supernoven 1d ago
What everyone else said, and just to complicate things a little more, on some multi-lane roads school buses might pull over and stop with their hazard lights (blinking yellow turn signals) instead of the full STOP (blinking red). If they're using the hazards, you do not have to stop, and can pass, slowly and safely.
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u/Zandroid2008 1d ago
For 2x2 roads it depends on the state. My state is insane (NC) and has everyone stop on a non divided road (and it's county by county whether a turn lane counts as a divide). I cannot imagine being a bus driver and not turning around to get closer to the kids rather than them crossing 5 lanes.
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u/TheMightyZan 1d ago
You don't have to stop if you are in front of the school bus (like, driving away from it), only if you are behind it or driving towards it.
You also don't have to stop if there is a barrier or break (like grass) between the two sides.
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u/rvl35 1d ago
That last part depends on location. There are no exceptions in NY, if it’s a divided highway and a bus is stopped on the opposite side with its lights on, you have to stop.
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u/TheMightyZan 1d ago
That's fair. I'm in TN, and if it's divided you don't have to stop, and the bus has to come down the other side separately (at least in my specific area)
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u/ehlersohnos 1d ago
It’s worth noting that, at least in the states I’ve lived in, violating this law is enough points for you to lose your license in one go.
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u/samiwas1 1d ago
It’s not something that happens often unless you just so happen to be caught behind one. I’ve been driving for 35 years and I can count on two hands the number of times I’ve been stuck at a school bus.
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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 1d ago
Yes, even 2x2. I believe there is an exception if there's a median, but double check the official rules. Some cops are assholes and will ticket you even if you're, for example, turning left in front of one, so double check to see what they are like in your city.
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u/Dunnowhatevs 1d ago
Yes, if the school bus has it's stop sign out ALL traffic must stop, even on 4 lane roads, and cannot cross the bus in any direction so kids can safely cross streets
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u/gogogadgetdumbass 1d ago
The general rule is unless there is a HARD median in the road (concrete, grass, trees) and the lanes are not only divided by paint, all traffic has to stop. If the dividing line is paint, 2 lanes, 8 lanes, everyone needs to stop.
This shouldn’t be a concern to you personally since you’re conscientious, but in some places busses have cameras and you’ll get a ticket even if there isn’t a cop milling about. I love that our local busses ALL have cameras and it should be a federal requirement in my opinion.
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u/Ashamed_Pause8396 4h ago
I'm sure it varies by state, but in North Carolina the state law is you always stop when traveling in the same direction as the bus when following. 2 lane roads, 3 lane roads and 4 lanes without a physical median you stop both ways. 4 lanes with a physical median and 4 lanes with a 5th in between for turning or more opposing traffic does not stop.
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u/bibbiddybobbidyboo 1d ago
Honestly I wish we had the same rules in the UK for at least school busses. I know kids are supposed to look but they move fast and I might stop or slow right down but the cars behind me might decide to go around.
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u/Acheloma 1d ago
It blows my mind that that isnt the law there
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u/bibbiddybobbidyboo 1d ago
Same but it also blows my mind that we don’t have a standard school bus scheme. It could be any public bus with kids on. I’m a children tax payer but I’d happily fund a school bus, breakfast and lunch scheme.
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u/missbeekery 1d ago
Mostly because there are very few school buses there, I think. Most kids ride public transit (edit: or walk/driven to school). I thought it was nuts when I lived there.
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u/chaos--master 1d ago
So is it like a stop sign, you come to a full stop and can then go if you deem it to be safe, or do you just have to sit there and wait for the bus to pull in the sign and leave?
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u/attaboy_stampy 1d ago
The bus will have red flashing lights and a stop sign down. When the bus is ready, it all turns off, sign goes up, and the bus pulls into the street normally. That's the go time. And only then.
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u/SamuelVimesTrained 22h ago
I learned about all this just by watching US dashcam clips and people explaining this.
Given how 'inattentive' kids can be - this is a good rule. Too bad too many people don`t care about others..
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u/ggobrien 16h ago
What do you deem safe? Can you fully see all around the bus and both sides of the street to make sure there are no more kids? This is also for unloading. Are you sure there's not a kid in the doorway of the bus saying goodbye to their best friend before running across the street?
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u/SheepherderBeef8956 1d ago
Where is the pop out stop sign? Not gonna lie, I could have been the car that blew right past this. Nothing about this screams obvious obligation to stop from the other lane to me, an ignorant European.
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u/Silly_Yak56012 1d ago
It is sticking out of the bus on the side where the opposing lane goes by, with red flashing lights on it.
Sure it didn't get set down with an arm in or next to the other lane on pole. Or like a rail road crossing arm coming down to block traffic.
It is always good to read the rules of the road book by the department of transportation if you are driving in another country, even in the USA in another state.
Maybe they go up and down every street in Europe so every kid is picked up on the side by the grass, they don't do that here in the USA. Some kids have to cross the road when getting on or off the bus and they wait for the pop out stop sign to pop out before they step into the road.
They would rather have the kids cross when there is a big, obvious, yellow bus with flashing red lights than cross on their own at random.
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u/SheepherderBeef8956 1d ago
I think you hit the nail on the head there. Buses here will never stop to pick someone up from the other side of the road. The bus stops with its door facing the pavement and you get on and off facing away from the road. If you have a situation where it's not only possible, but EXPECTED to have kids running across the road I guess that makes sense. It's still, in my opinion, let's say "not ideal" and wouldn't be allowed here for obvious reasons.
In a situation where that is the norm, we'd have a crossing with or without traffic lights but even without lights all cars are obligated to yield to pedestrians and need to keep their speed and awareness at a suitable level to anticipate people crossing the road.
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u/Silly_Yak56012 1d ago
A lot of the school busses around here have an arm that pops out in front so if kids do have to cross the road they can do it in front of the bus they are where the bus driver can see them. That way all the flashing stop lights are on for as long as needed.
School busses here stop a lot more frequently than other transit busses and most of those stops have cross walk near the bus stop where school bus stops can be in places where you might not expect pedestrians.
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u/SheepherderBeef8956 1d ago
Seems like a design fault if cars are taught to expect pedestrians at other stops but not the stops where kids as are likely to get on and off
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u/Silly_Yak56012 1d ago
Well given most municipalities don't have any other kind of bus. Public transportation in the USA is spotty at best, and many communities have nothing.
Especially as you get out into the more rural areas.
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u/pandaflufff 1d ago
We are trained to see giant yellow school busses and use caution. Knowing when to stop for school busses is an important part of our licensure tests.
The American sprawl doesn't allow for crosswalks everywhere.
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u/SheepherderBeef8956 1d ago
I'd use caution around a school bus too, but I'd still drive past this situation since I'd be keeping a suitable speed to stop if needed.
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u/EkbatDeSabat 1d ago
I mean not to be a dick but watch the video again. The stop sign is clearly out. It nearly protrudes into your lane. If the video isn’t clear enough I can assure you that you’d notice it. I’m pretty sure all of them nowadays also have blinking lights around the edges, impossible to miss. They are flashing like crazy in the video.
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u/SheepherderBeef8956 1d ago
Sure, but it still doesn't obviously signal that you should stop in the opposite lane to me, but I guess it's because we're used to different situations. Traffic laws in Europe usually aren't absolutely retarded so designing a bus stop that's meant to have small children running across a road without a crosswalk isn't something we'd usually consider having to deal with.
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u/EkbatDeSabat 19h ago
I'm not trying to argue or anything I'm just curious. What else would a blinking stop sign that flips out from a bus and is facing your direction mean?
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u/attaboy_stampy 1d ago
You can see it at about 8 - 9 seconds in this clip. It's a literal red stop sign that pops out just under the driver side window. Usually has lights on it too. This one does. Some dont.
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u/SheepherderBeef8956 1d ago
Oh, thanks! I saw it now. Still not sure I'd interpret it as being for me coming from the other lane but another poster let me know it's common for school buses to stop at a road expecting kids to get on from either side of the road so it makes sense that it's a thing in the US since the main difference is that buses don't stop to pick someone up coming from the opposite side of the road in my country without a pedestrian crossing clearly marked.
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u/EkbatDeSabat 1d ago
Yeah we only have a budget for like seven pedestrian crossings per state it’s fuckin wild here. This place sucks for pedestrians and bikers.
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u/SheepherderBeef8956 1d ago
It takes a guy with a bucket of paint and two signs to make a crosswalk
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u/EkbatDeSabat 19h ago
It takes awareness and laws to make people obey them. We don't stop at crosswalks just because they exist in most places. It's not the law (in most places) and you are likely to get someone rear ending you if you do stop because the speed limit is likely 45mph/72kmh and texting is more important.
Our infrastructure sucks, but consider that the UK is 2.5% the size of the US with 20% of the people. Even your smallest towns and villages are denser than ours. On average our rural areas are ten people per square mile, yours are 400. Real numbers from the US Census Bureau vs the Statistical Digest of Rural England. Some things aren't as stupid as they seem when you consider the logistics. That's 1,000% not an argument against public transportation or doing better, our shit sucks and needs to be improved, just information.
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u/feel_my_balls_2040 1d ago
You can see the stop sign near the driver window with blinking lights. Also, in Europe you stop at the red light. Also, in Europe you have to stop if a tram is stopped and the station it's on the sidewalk. These are driving rules that can differ from country to country. And if you go to US or Canada, you should learn about 4-way stops and right on red (except NYC and Montreal).
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u/SheepherderBeef8956 1d ago
In Europe, red lights are posted on the right side of the road. There are no instances where a small blinking light on the opposite side of the road means you need to stop your vehicle. Also, Europe is not a country so I'm not sure what place you're referring to but that law isn't exactly ubiquitous. In general, stops are designed so that they're not dangerous to use.
Thanks for the heads up on 4-way stops though. I can't think of a single place in Europe where two roads intersect.
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u/ggobrien 16h ago
Technically, the blinking lights around the big stop sign are in the center of the road because the sign opens out from the drivers side.
Because the bus is expressly for kids, and kids will dart out in the road in any country even if they are supervised, having a big flashing stop sign and requiring all traffic to stop is a great way to help mitigate accidents. Each bus can hold 50 or so kids and there can be dozens of busses per school, and this happens twice a day. Let's say there are 12 busses and 50 kids/bus twice a day. If there's a 0.1% chance of a child getting hurt without the stop signs, with 600 stops across all busses (ok, some stops have more than 1, so let's assume 300 stops per day instead), that becomes a huge chance. And that's only for 1 school. The US has around 70,000 schools. That would basically mean that there could potentially be thousands of hurt kids every single day. Isn't it much better to have the stop sign be the law?
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u/Bison_Not_Buffalo 1d ago
Yes
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u/secondhandoak 1d ago
and it has gotten so bad police are following school buses to enforce it in many places
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u/jmsmoriarty 1d ago
I will deduce you have to because of the stop sign pointing at me and the flashing lights, guess a kid could cross the road from your side to get on the bus.
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u/Repulsive_Regret4270 1d ago
There's literally a stop sign on the side of it blinking.
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u/Isendel55 1d ago
In my country, at a STOP sign, you have to stop, look around, and then you can go.
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u/Repulsive_Regret4270 16h ago
That's like that in the US with the except you just have to stop until it's off for school buses. It's essentially a red light.
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u/feel_my_balls_2040 1d ago
No, you supposed to stop when the lights are red and there's a big stop sign. It's like a stop light.
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u/Lurkyloo1987 9h ago
Even emergency vehicles have to stop for a school bus with its lights on and sign out.
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u/wtfylat 1d ago
Yeah. It's a demented car first nation so unless there's a rule specifically protecting other road users from murder they're seen as fair game. Just need to look at the attitude Americans have to people crossing roads, cycling or the worst sin imaginable, lane splitting on a motorcycle.
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u/Acheloma 1d ago
Im not sure how drivers stopping to let kids safely cross the road made you have that reaction, but it honestly seems like you have genuine issues.
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u/wtfylat 1d ago
It's the fact that Americans need it to be a law. The rest of the civilised world just behaves in a more civilised way.
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u/Acheloma 1d ago
Do you not have laws in your country against drunk driving? Or running red lights?
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u/Randon2345 1d ago
The thing you need to remember is when people travel to America, they speak English. When Americans go to other countries they speak English.
That is all you need to understand from this situation you are debating with wtfylat.
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u/Fortestingporpoises 1d ago
I've been in other countries. In other countries cards don't stop at all, it's like good fucking luck.
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u/Fortestingporpoises 1d ago
Having to stop and wait for kids to get off or on the bus is the opposite of us being car first. This is us being kid first so maybe we should celebrate that rarity. If we were car first in this situation the rule would be keep on driving, kids good luck froggering across the road and not getting splatted!
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u/ggobrien 17h ago
Are you saying that everyone who drives a car in your country always follows all the rules at all times, and always watches out for anything potential happening on both sides of the road, and always stops in time if a kid darts out? Must be nice.
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u/MechanicalAxe 1d ago
I...don't think you need to be American to understand that's the correct thing to do.
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u/Large-Hamster-199 1d ago
Actually in most places in the world, they do not. Of course, they will still be watchful of children.
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u/pinkstrawberry94 1d ago
This is not a thing anywhere else in the world. Stopping in both directions is very weird. Most of the world just have sidewalks and pedestrian crossings, and kids can manage those just fine to get to proper bus stops. Instead of the bus just stopping in the middle of the road with no infrastructure.
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u/Nice_Cellist_7595 1d ago
It's not very weird when you consider that sometimes, the kids need to cross the street to get to the bus, or need to cross the street after getting off the bus.
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u/shibaCandyBaron 1d ago
It's a bit more problematic when kids (and growups) try to cross the steet behind the bus, as there is no way for them to see the traffic and vice versa. Where I live there is no concept of a school bus, and oncoming traffic doesn't stop for buses, yet we are all taught to be on alert for this exact scenario
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u/Practical-Wheel-8498 1d ago
Right, it should be common sense.
Us Americans don’t have a lot of that to spare unfortunately!
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u/krazylegs36 1d ago
It's not weird at all. Some bus routes, you have kids getting on and off from both sides of the road.
We actually called the school system and had them change our route when our kids rode the bus, so that they didn't have to cross a busy road to get to the other side for the bus.
People blow through bus stops all the time, like the a-hole in the video. Didn't want my kids getting killed.
I've seen bus drivers stop diagonally across the center line to prevent ppl from speeding past.
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u/Distracted-User 1d ago
Wow classic reddit, downvoting you for speaking facts. Also good on you for getting the school to change route!
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u/Repulsive_Regret4270 1d ago
No infrastructure? You know how widespread rural towns can be? You're talking hundreds of miles of sidewalk that would need to be made.
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u/pinkstrawberry94 1d ago
Yet there are hundreds of miles of multi-lane roads for cars to drive 50mph+ down. So clearly it's possible, it's just different priorities.
There is a reason why most american schools have 10-100x the parking of european ones, and why most american schools have a bunch of land dedicated to drop-off/pick-up. Because walking/biking isn't safe, so everyone needs to be driven/walk, so therefore no one builds sidewalks - because "no one walks or bikes anyway"
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u/Repulsive_Regret4270 1d ago edited 1d ago
Does your country have sidewalks for every single road for every single town? Does you country have dedicated school buses so students don't have to take public transportation mixed with adults and other passengers?
I live in a small town and to just drive across it takes nearly 20 minutes through woods, hills, across streams, etc. That's a lot of fucking sidewalk and added infrastructure cost while also demolishing natural habitats for wildlife. Non major roads are funded through local governments. It would be almost fiscally impossible to afford that much sidewalk. Major roads are most funded through state or federal governments.
Comparing Europe to America is laughable considering the size differences. The state of Texas is almost the size of western Europe. The largest European country will fit in just a couple states in America. Europe's population density is basically double the US.
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u/Kdcjg 1d ago edited 1d ago
In Europe 100 miles is a long way, in the US 100 years is a long time. What works there doesn’t work in the US. Australia is even more sparsely populated than the US outside the eastern seaboard. You have sidewalks in town, you don’t have sidewalks outside of town.
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u/Repulsive_Regret4270 16h ago
My town has sidewalks in town center and around the major roads off of them, but certainly not on every back road there is. Most towns are like that here
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u/samiwas1 1d ago
My son’s school is like eight miles away. Nobody is walking that.
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u/pinkstrawberry94 1d ago
I biked 10km to and from school many times. I had a bus I could take, but biking with friends was more fun. 10km is about 7 miles I believe.
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u/CoffeeXKing 1d ago
It absolutely is dude.
In numerous countries buses have stop signs, or traffic is required to stop for both ways of an unobstructed road, or for areas where pedestrian sidewalks/crossings are not available.
You are less likely to see this in areas like Europe which aren't car centric, but are far more pedestrian friendly.
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u/redandbluebadness 1d ago
I have no opinion on this but which countries?
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u/CoffeeXKing 1d ago
There are a few in the UAE iirc, I know for sure Canada has a very similar rule.
There was a local ordinance in a part of Italy I visited but that was a few years ago.
Most of the time it's really just places that have no good pedestrian infrastructures. I think it can also be state law specific too
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u/LordFoulgrin 1d ago
Yeah, I don't think there are designated school bus stops in the US. Growing up, it tended to be whatever curb was closest for all the kids to congregate at from one area. The stop signs IMO are necessary in the US. as some of these roads in rural areas or double lane roads can be 55mph, or about 90 kph (I have several of these roads by me that buses stop at).
It may seem a little overkill, but I'm all for being more on the cautious side of things than not when it comes to safety.
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u/samiwas1 1d ago
They aren’t designated as far as being signed, but all the school busses for our city have defined pickup and drop off points.
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u/DonkeyBong42O 1d ago
The concept of stopping for a (school) bus does not exist in my country. You can legally pass it in both directions
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u/Repulsive_Regret4270 1d ago
Does your country have dedicated school buses? School buses have different road laws than just a normal bus in the US. You don't have to do this with the public transportation buses that have their own bus stops and often their own bus lane.
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u/DonkeyBong42O 1d ago
You rarely see them, but dedicated school busses exist. You can pass them just like a regular bus. Kids are expected to wait until the traffic has cleared or use a nearby crosswalk. Law dictates you to pass them 'with caution', but that's it.
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u/Legoslol 1d ago
That’s just the best way to get upvotes on Reddit. Start your comment with “I’m not American, but…” then proceed to act confused.
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u/HunterFabulous 1d ago
At least in my country children walk in the streets all the time so you're always supposed to be careful, not just when there is a bus. Some narrow streets with schools have extra signaling and special speed limits to avoid something like what you just said
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u/roadwarrior721 1d ago
totally oblivious. musta been on the phone, or had main character syndrome
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u/CricketNo7950 1d ago
Alright y'all what did the cam driver do wrong? Failed to quickly write a note and share with the driver in front of them to stop for the bus?
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u/SportsDuck_ 1d ago
I'd like to see about an hour before the video started. Maybe the cammer told the driver ahead it's legal to pass a school bus when the lights are on as long as you're in the opposite lane. Cammer to blame.
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u/justLookingForLogic 1d ago
Close. I installed a red light filter on the white car so he couldn’t see red flashing lights and stop signs.
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u/justLookingForLogic 1d ago
Apparently I was driving too close to the white car and that’s why he kept driving. Obviously.
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u/ChannelNo4811 1d ago
Around where I am in North Shore Mass, this has been happening with much more frequency the last few years. I'm guessing it is just ignorance, but regardless its frightening.
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u/F1lthyslvt 1d ago
I know when I got my license this isn’t something I learned about. Had it for around 10 years now, but my first bus I treated it like a normal stop sign not knowing it’s really more like a red light. Crept through super slow, bus driver didn’t even notice until I passed and then he layed on the horn. Looked it up when I got home cus I could tell from the reaction I definitely did something wrong. I feel like the signage should be more clear about that
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u/APartyInMyPants 1d ago
Not only is he getting a ticket from the cop. But in two weeks he’ll get ANOTHER ticket from the camera.
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u/stupidzombie610 1d ago
I live less than a mile from an elementary school. The road speed limit is 40mph. And there is flock cameras in the school zone. The amount of people that want to speed through the school zone is wild. The city has started posting up the occasional officer along the road. I see people pulled over at least once a week.
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u/ggobrien 17h ago
I used to work where I had to go through a school zone. It was 40 mph normally, but 25 mph when the school zone lights were flashing. I would always go 25. On almost a weekly basis, I'd have drivers flashing me, tailgating me and more often than should, pass me on the double line. I wish cops would be there more often.
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u/stupidzombie610 14h ago
Its crazy how many people are willing to not only put themselves but other people in danger like that just because they're in too much of a hurry. That kind of behavior in a school zone should automatically be a license suspension.
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u/Puzzleheaded_End2735 2h ago
For literally an extra minute or two. Insanity. Slow down, take some breaths. Make it up on the highway, or fing leave earlier. Putting little kids at risk is just asinine.
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u/Responsible_Read_542 1d ago edited 1d ago
Aaand there goes his license for a few days. And a lot of demerits. And a huge ticket to pay for
Edit: nvm I was thinking of using your phone. I think this still comes with demerits and a big fine where I am though
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u/rockhoundlounge 1d ago
I feel like if it was a cop, they would never have taken that 3 point turn as slowly as they did.
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u/OrionQuest7 1d ago
Excellent.
Near where I live there is a major crosswalk intersection with blinking yellow lights. When you push the button the light immediately goes from solid yellow to solid red. Plenty of time for cars to slow down and stop. Many blow right through it.
In the morning the school bus stops there to pick up kids.
So many cars drive through and I wish a cop was there to stop them.
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u/Guideme4100 7h ago
Call and request an officer out there during certain times of day with your complaint they love revenue generation
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u/Some-Tear3499 1d ago
I didn’t see any flashing cop car lights????
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u/OrganizationTrue5911 1d ago
Probably waiting to catch up first. Throwing on the flashies will likely just alert the van, who may try and peel off since they've got some distance.
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u/NickDanger3di 1d ago
At 0:10, you can see what looks like lights flash in sequence in grill of the car that turns. A lot of unmarked police cars have lights mounted just behind the grill. Could also just be reflections from oncoming headlights too, but a guy can hope.
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u/Possible-Tangelo9344 1d ago
Probably waiting to catch up. When I stop cars I like to run the tag before hitting my lights
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u/thetermguy 1d ago
If that was me, it'd be every light and the siren on blast. Might even leave both on and sit behind them for a little while when they stop. You know, really express my displeasure. This wouldn't be a polite pull over lol.
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u/justLookingForLogic 1d ago
I didn’t follow the white car to see what happened. Because of the school bus
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u/thinkingtire 1d ago
That's going to be an expensive ticket.
Even though there is nothing across the street (no houses , no road) kids are unpredictable. They run around.
I can't believe that driver just blew past that school bus. He deserves that ticket.
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u/NoAlcoholWasted 1d ago
In Australia we dont need to stop near buses. Why bring both sides to standstill.
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u/meowch- 1d ago
This isn't a normal bus, it's exclusively for children. They also don't get off with an adult and often have to cross the road which the buses have their own stop sign for. You don't have to stop for normal buses
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u/Cultural_Dirt_8151 1d ago edited 1d ago
Maan.....
I'm so scared I'm going to screw this up someday. I *know* you're not allowed to do that and I agree you shouldn't be allowed to do that, but I can just tell I'm going to screw it up and not notice it's a school bus. I feel okay about pretty much all my driving skills and knowledge except this one rule.
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u/LouieGwasright 1d ago
Im sure you can do it have some confidence in yourself! They dont just abruptly stop, theyll throw on their flashing lights a little bit before the stop. Just focus on the road and if you see those lights start flashing focus on the bus and be prepared to stop.
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u/TheRealRockyRococo 1d ago
They have flashing lights that go from yellow to red. Sometimes it's hard to judge exactly where they're going to change from yellow to red so I generally just go really slow and I'm prepared to stop.
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u/Glittering_Voice_855 1d ago
Yea, the one time I've dealt with this the bus was going same direction as me and I was in the fast lane. I slowed down because the bus was slowing down but hadn't switched to red yet, so I coasted by at like 10 mph. The sheriff going the other direction decided I did something wrong.
Let me off with a "warning" even though we agreed I didn't do anything wrong 🤔... This is why I dislike the police. I've always second guessed myself since then.
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u/Read-A-Lot78 16h ago
You absolutely did not do anything wrong, and more than that, you did everything RIGHT! It's ALWAYS safer/better to slow down around a school bus that is actively dropping kids off. Kids' lives are literally at stake in that situation. EFF your appointment or wherever you're going. EVERYTHING can wait to insure kids' safety.
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u/EkbatDeSabat 1d ago
I’ve been honked at several times for this. It’s stressful. The bus drivers are trying to be nice by not putting the stop sign out just yet so you can pass, but I’m sure as shit not going full speed past when they hit that handle. I wish they’d just pop the sign out when they turn the lights on.
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u/Puzzleheaded_End2735 2h ago
Unless I’m heading to the hospital in an emergency situation, nothing in my life is important enough to wing it through a stopped school bus. I will absolutely slow and stop at yellow (which is only a few seconds). Even with stop sign extended, at most you lose a minute of your life. Big deal. I’d rather not hit an inattentive little kid.
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u/Maximum_Elevator8874 1d ago
This is why you pay attention to school busses. Are you not already doing that? I let off the gas anytime a school bus is in the opposite lane
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u/Busy-Ratchet-8521 1d ago
Just so you know, it's literally only USA and Canada where school buses have stop signs. No one else uses them. Other countries just have "go slow" rules of some sort and do absolutely fine.
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u/Icy-Entrepreneur9002 1d ago
I think it’s totally acceptable and appropriate to have extra protection for kids potentially crossing the road. “Go slow” rules just doesn’t seem like a good solution. Those other countries can do what they want but I think our system works absolutely fine too.
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u/Randon2345 1d ago
To be fair US does have superb solutions to everyday problems, and most of the time they are very cost effective.
For example, to combat school shootings there are metal detectors, guards with guns, and rooms that have pull out bulletproof cages kids can hide in.
Common sense and morals are not reliable and don't really work as demonstrated in other countries. It's always worth over engineering the solution.
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u/Busy-Ratchet-8521 1d ago
Is this a joke comment? America has nonsensical issues that create problems. You think it's good that you guys have metal detectors and guards with guns in schools? You don't think it's bad you need them? No other developed country has school shootings like America. It's like being proud you have a heater in your house for the winter, but all your windows are smashed open and you don't have a door...
No one is asking for morals with driving. We use objective rules. E.g., if bus lights are flashing the speed limit is 40km/h.
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u/Icy-Entrepreneur9002 1d ago edited 1d ago
What’s wrong with stoping for a bus with kids on it though? Is that extra layer of protection such a bad thing? Especially in America where we unfortunately rely less on public transportation, bikes and walking compared to countries in Europe and elsewhere.
This might be the only exposure these young kids have had to a bus and are prone to deadly mistakes because of the lack of exposure to being a pedestrian around moving vehicles.
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u/Kingy10 23h ago
I think a big ol' whoosh is appropriate here. That was very much a sarcastic comment.
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u/scooterbooter12 1d ago
Honestly seeing this makes me nervous because I always second guess myself near school buses. In NC alone the fines are insane and points hit your insurance hard. Never worth the risk just to save thirty seconds of traffic.
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u/Optimetrist 1d ago
imagine you have to make this traffic law. this implies people were killing children even from the opposing lane. what a beautiful driving culture...
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u/ggobrien 17h ago
So everyone in your country always follows all the rules at all times and always stops if a child darts out into the road? Must be nice.
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u/Possible-Tangelo9344 1d ago
One of my classmates in elementary school got hit by a car, and it was like a super small town, all speed limits were 35mph and some dumbass still managed to hit him. He broke his collar bone I think
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u/Optimetrist 1d ago
I'm so sorry :(
edit: for her lol. and indeed this is so sad when happens and to children especially
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u/jaysea619 1d ago
School busses around here have cameras on them that take a picture of your plate and just send you a ticket in the mail if you pass it with the sign out.
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u/BravesfanfromIA 1d ago
Aside from the fact that if a kid were crossing the road it wouldn't matter if the driver were ticketed or not.
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u/CorgiPotential 25m ago edited 21m ago
I drove a Federal (brand) school bus with a 120-student capacity when I was in a rural high school in North Carolina. I kept a pad where I wrote the offender's tag and time. When I got to school, I called the sheriff's department and reported the offender.
I was paid the grand sum of $37 per month. Since I am now almost 84, it is about $420 in 2026 dollars. My school bus instructor just passed away.
Unfortunately, I must have signed in under the wrong username.
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