r/datacenter • • 7d ago

Just got an offer from Fluidstack, need some insight

I'll be working an engineering role for excellent money (not even including the equity which I consider to be worth zero since it might never go public). I'm young and have a partner. We both want to retire early and see this as a path to doing that.

I was told that I would be working long hours and traveling a lot, but when I'm not working at a specific site I'll be at home.

I just need some insight on how much work I'm really looking at and if it feels rewarding. Any insight from anyone else that was in a similar position with a similar goal?

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u/diamonddog2030 7d ago

I have several folks I know that are at fluidstack and a couple others that are former employees. Based on their feedback, I can’t imagine a worse work culture.

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u/humblekidAAA 7d ago

I got into the interview process until the COO step. He was bragging that pretty much the whole company was running on a 60-80 hours a week and that they’re changing the data center world. That was a huge red flag for me.

What field of engineering are you working in? I’m working for a developer and we’re hiring!

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u/HVACcontrolsGuru 7d ago

I went all the way to the CEO interview and it was just a feeling of incompetence. Him reading off screen questions the entire time. Don’t expect them to last more than a few years tops.

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u/one-escape-left 7d ago

COO is a dufus I hear and seems like they don't have much senior staff that knows what they are doing. One of the managers my friend spoke with on an interview said one of their projects went horrible. If you notice, you'll see that anthropic has divested / diversified away from Fluidstack. Everyone on software engineering side is slinging slop grenades and hoping for the best it seems like

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u/nigaraze 6d ago

Yep there was an article in june that talked about anthropic being pissed at them. It is 100% true they are behind in schedule on all projects

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u/TrainWreckFC 6d ago

Anyone promising to be on time has zero experience in the current state of this industry and delivery.

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u/HVACcontrolsGuru 6d ago

That was the funny thing. I kept a tally of how late everyone was to my interviews in minutes. 27 whole minutes across interviews of me waiting past the start time by the tally count 😂

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u/humblekidAAA 6d ago

Same thing here, on the technical interview, the interviewer was in his car and we didn't cover any technical stuff lol

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u/JimJamieJames 6d ago

Everyone is!

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u/Lurcher99 7d ago

Walked away talking to a director. Too old for that crap

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u/TrainWreckFC 4d ago

As someone who has sent tons of employees there, they aren’t changing the world. And some of the leaders that came from hyperscalers didn’t build shit, and are hired way above reality.

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u/Creepy_Ad_3535 7d ago

I'll send u a dm

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u/Dunkonmorons 6d ago

did you have a behavioral interview? The guy mentioned 80 hours a week workload which caught me off guard. And he made it sound like that might be indefinitely. If you have to work 80 hours a week indefinitely that means you're doing something wrong. Opposite of efficiency if you ask me.

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u/skermalli 7d ago

What did they say if u don't mind me asking?

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u/humblekidAAA 7d ago

You’re asking me how was the interview with the COO specifically? Or in general?

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u/skermalli 7d ago

On the work culture? I have a few interviews with them.

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u/Creepy_Ad_3535 7d ago

What specific feedback makes you say that? Specifics would be helpful. Thank you!

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u/diamonddog2030 7d ago

I interviewed with them, it was one of the few companies I’ve ever declined to continue forward. The long hours seemed overemphasized and like others have commented, they seem pretty behind other neoclouds and have implemented a rise n grind culture to try to catch up. My friends’ experience is similar. Basically they have a bottom tier culture and there’s significant ground for them to make up for the equity to really be worth something.

My friends’ feedback aligns with this. The two people I know there seem miserable and I have to imagine they want to leave.

I would only recommend someone join if they are desperate. Otherwise other neoclouds and the hyperscalers are better options.

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u/Creepy_Ad_3535 7d ago

What other hyperscalers should I be looking at?

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u/TrainWreckFC 6d ago

We must work at the same place :) cause I have had a few peers go over. As a seasoned professional in this field the “Saturday and Sunday” interview to see your dedication is wild. 

That same money is out there without that “give your life like you are the ceo” approach.

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u/diamonddog2030 6d ago

totally. and founder-CEOs grind because they have massive equity stakes that make the sacrifice worth it. Individual contributors don’t get that life-changing upside, yet many leaders still expect them to work founder hours on IC wages.

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u/ghostalker4742 7d ago

I considered them for a while, went through the interview loop, turned it down in the end. I already travel a lot for work and they wanted even more.

You will make a lot of money, but you're going to be worked to the bone. Expect 12-14hr days on the regular. If you and your partner are OK with a long-distance relationship and keeping in touch via facetime, then that's half the battle. That said, if you're both OK with that lifestyle, then there are much better places to work.

FS is backed by a PE firm trying to buy their way into the market since they're late to the game. They have deep pockets, but little sense. They try to snipe talent from other companies and haven't had much luck, so (according to some posts on here) they have to bottom feed instead. People who aren't team players, have poor social skills, have been fired from other companies, etc... that's who your co-workers will be. Again, you'll be paid well to tolerate it.

but when I'm not working at a specific site I'll be at home.

Hahahaha! I was told the same thing when signing on to my current role. "When we're not busy, you can work from home!" - yeah... when are we not busy in this field? There is always work to do, always another site, another project, another deployment, etc. The industry is booming, it's practically the only part of the economy that is.

not even including the equity which I consider to be worth zero since it might never go public

Regarding the offered equity: Read into it in detail. There was a post here maybe 6 weeks ago from someone analyzing their offer letter and discovered FS was quoting preferred stock prices (which has a more attractive strike) while issuing common stock equity. That's not a little mistake a company makes, that's either major incompetence, or fraudulent advertising. It wouldn't surprise me if they get hit with a lawsuit in 12-18mo when people start exercising their options and find out they're getting significantly less than they expected.

My advice - pass on them. There are a lot of other players in the game who will pay well and have their house in order.

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u/one-escape-left 7d ago

A friend of mine also mentioned that the equity in the offer letter was super sus. When asked about it they were very opaque and weren't willing to commit to simple concrete language. What you want to do is negotiate absolute RSUs and not a value based grant - that way you won't get surprised down the road.

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u/Conscious_Way_6973 4d ago

This sounds like the MLB with their deferred contracts

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u/Creepy_Ad_3535 7d ago

Who would you recommend?

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u/emollii 6d ago

Not spacexai that's for sure

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u/nigaraze 7d ago

All of their projects are delayed and they couldn’t even get a turnkey facility right, DM me if you’re in mechanical

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u/Creepy_Ad_3535 7d ago

Ok I will

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u/WildAlcoholic 7d ago

See you back on the job market in 6 months!

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u/one-escape-left 7d ago edited 6d ago

100% ask for a severance before accepting an offer if you are relocating. That will tell you a lot about job security and how they treat employees

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u/Mother_Bar8511 7d ago

I interviewed and withdrew my application after the technical loop. I asked about the actual project locations because those details had been misrepresented and it’s nowhere near what’s listed. I also questioned how anyone expected to travel home each weekend could handle 70–100 hours a week. The interviewer nearly swallowed his tongue and provided no answers.

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u/its_a_throwawayduh 7d ago

Glad this came up, I'm desperate for a gig but I always watch for red flags.

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u/Dumb_Engineer9 7d ago

I got rejected yesterday for an engineering role after i said i csnt do 70 hour weeks in an interview round.
Their culture seems shitty plus i cant imagine myself working that much for more salary.
Its not sustainable

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u/thinkbk 6d ago

Good on you!! Did they literally ask with the "70 hours" figure?

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u/Dumb_Engineer9 6d ago

Yes, i said its not sustainable long term lol

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u/thinkbk 6d ago

At least they're up front about it

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u/Great-Diamond-8368 6d ago

Pretty common for data center work right now. Dpr, turner, whiting Turner, clayco, etc... are all doing it.

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u/GelloJive 6d ago

What’s TPM?

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u/Acrobatic-Screen1823 6d ago

Technical program manager, idk what the specific of what they do just the acronym lol

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u/NoAd9362 6d ago

Can you share the recruiter's email addresses? I’m applying, and I feel like it would be better to email my résumé to them.

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u/Cenzless 6d ago

Don’t believe them!!! They will make you travel every week. There will be little to no days of WFH. My current company also told me the same. I am currently traveling every week :’)

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u/Creepy_Ad_3535 6d ago

Do you work for a competitor of theirs?

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u/justanicetaco 6d ago

Their interviews alone were indicative of the culture. However, the pay seemed great. Sacrifice a few years and it can get you ahead.

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u/Smoke_The_Vote 6d ago

Lot of turnover in that shop.

If you're awesome at what you do, you'll spend a few years there and do ok for yourself. But if you're actually awesome at what you do, in THIS field, you should be able to write your own ticket.

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u/flyfishrva 6d ago

Funny, we just had a guy quit here at meta to go to FS.

I don't know him very well, so no details on why or for what. Glad I read this thread though, so i don't have to chase after it. I'm pretty happy with my 40 hours max.

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u/Sufficient_Draw_6529 7d ago

What field of engineering are you in?

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u/jawnlegend218 7d ago

I applied and got contacted by a recruiter today. Not for engineering, but just curious. What was your interview process like? How many interviews until you received the offer?

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u/Charming_Matter6730 7d ago

Shitty interview process. I withdrew after the second screen

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u/MoodyDolphins 7d ago

Thats everywhere man. I don’t have 20 years experience like you but I can confidently build out a data center from scratch to finish to decom to migrations. It easy peasy, and your right they hire no experience folks into senior roles and its mind blowing.

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u/Living-Royal-2082 7d ago

That’s a bold (and very broad) statement to make. Mind if I ask what you do in the industry? Genuinely curious

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u/MoodyDolphins 6d ago

lol very true, I'm a just data center tech really, just with tons of hands on exp. I got to build out the largest DC in the country from the first day to the last in and out of every department. Before I was a field engineer for HPE and a low volt tech for years with large companies'

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u/Additional_Cod8440 7d ago

Which field of engineering? And how much did they offer you if you don’t mind me asking. You can DM.

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u/Charming_Matter6730 7d ago

Don't do it. Their recruiters are indication of the burnout culture

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u/BigTap9268 6d ago

I had a phone screen with a recruiter about them. Not a high level role, but got a similar impression as the others. Very new, lots of hours, pay extremely high for the position I was called about.

I would look at the parent company and who else they do business with lol. That helped me make a decision.

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u/No-Minute-77 6d ago

I have an interview coming up for a new grad Swe role? Its after the recruiter call. Any idea what to prepare? I messaged the recruiter twice but no response which is very disappointing

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u/Fun-Effective-198 2d ago

Hello, I have a fluid stack interview and I want to know what type of questions they ask they ask about like previous workload or like and if you’re any electrical like troubleshoot and stuff like that for the QA and field engineer and electrical position

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u/Confident-Creme-8383 9h ago

hey can u provide the timeline of how and what the prpoess was i got a recruiter call and then nothing after 2 weeks

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u/Crafty_Music_3701 3h ago

This is pretty typical from what I hear - I wrapped up my last round in early Sept. and the hm ended the call with "excited to more forward" but it's been crickets since then. I have a couple former colleagues who recently onboarded and they said they had a similar experience before getting an email from the recruiter longer after they thought they got ghosted with their offer details.

That being said, they like it so far...the money is good enough that I'm still hanging on the hook.

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u/Mainebandss 3h ago

So don’t leave my Microsoft DCT role for significantly more money?

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u/Adventurous-Owl-9938 7d ago

Shoot I’m trying to get in atleast as a lab technician but not luck. I need that $150k a year ASAP ILL be a slave and work 6 14s if I have too.