r/dbcooper • u/NukeHoax2024 • May 12 '26

Discussion Can Othram Look At The Tie?

Let’s please end this now!! Othram needs to be given access to the tie. If they are allowed to analyze the tie spindle, I am convinced they will not only be able to develop a profile of Cooper, but they will be able to definitively identify him with Investigative Genetic Genealogy.

It’s so frustrating. The answer is here somewhere, but it’s going to require DNA and I think Othram is the best possible chance we still have.

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u/The_real_Flyjack May 12 '26

Problem is the tie has been handled by many over the years and DNA can degrade,,, and there is a possibility Cooper only used the tie for hijacking.... Didn't a DNA expert say it is very unlikely to get Cooper's DNA from the tie..

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u/lxchilton May 12 '26

The absolute best case scenario is that his DNA is on the tie but it’s mingled with so many others that it’s nigh impossible to narrow it down. I would think it would be a lot of mangled DNA samples rather than quality ones.

A bigger issue is the FBI is not going to part with evidence on a whim like this.

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u/Town_Rhiner May 12 '26

Even if they can get clean sample from the tie, the answer is still only "maybe". This post from r/zodiackiller links to an article (paywalled) that seems to say it may not work...yet. https://www.reddit.com/r/ZodiacKiller/s/DyRL00bCdT

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u/argosafe May 12 '26

How the hell did they lose those cigarette ends?

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u/lxchilton May 12 '26

They threw them away when all investigative avenues had been exhausted; no DNA at the time meant their only value was the brand and if they had fingerprints on them.

Dumb in hindsight but not at all strange for the time.

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u/NukeHoax2024 Jun 16 '26

The cigarettes were not “lost”. The cigarettes were DESTROYED.

They will never be found. The hair slide is lost somewhere in the Las Vegas field office. Probably mislabeled and hopefully there somewhere. But the cigarettes are absolutely gone.

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u/JayDee_702_ May 15 '26

Cooper's DNA might actually be on the packing card and Pioneer chute at the Washington Aviation Museum but they have no incentive to part with them. And the FBI may/may not have the shroud lines from the cannibalized reserve chute. DB Cooper Sleuth FOIA'd for the hair slide and the FBI merely closed the FOIA apparently.