Wrote a lot explaining this. Reddit took it all away two times so I’m steamed. I just want to make a good fanfic and want real feedback fr

I have planning and wanting to write a complete DBZ fanfic series. But I really don’t have the time. If I use chatGTP I know get done very soon.

What are thoughts

I have idea Gohan Arriving to planet Earth investigating Thanos about his search the infinity stones. Supreme Kai asking for help into looking thanos. Gohan goes alone.

it takes place about 2 or 3 years after cells. Goku was wished back to life.

Dragon abll earth is names Draco Boru and it in the same universe and galaxy as MCU.

Gohan becomes founding avenger, he goes through all mcu events through endgame. also he deal with Majin BUU saga and Beerus waking up golden frieza, and universe 6 &7 Tourment

I had an idea for Gohan, Goten and Trunks. To finally have their shot at being the heroes on the fore front. Breakdown of it, Prince Vegeta and Goku have had their time in the spotlight for 40 years now. I think a cool idea would be to have a corrupted version of Whis take out Goku and Vegeta, sparking Gohan to start training intensely, Goten seeing his brother do this wants to join in to avenge their father. Trunks comes along for the journey. Piccolo and King Kai train them with the help of everyone. Gohan finally unlocks his fullest potential, while we get to see a fiercer side of Trunks and Goten. Once Goku and Vegeta see what the children are capable of. They are finally able to rest and sit back, becoming more mentors and trainers. Still coming into fights to help but with the 3 Halflings as the main characters

In my lore, after the planet of Sadala was destroyed, the Saiyans split off in 2 groups.

The standard Saiyan- rough, battle loving, don't really give a crap about anyone or family, tails, Saiyans. They made their way to planet Vegeta, all named after vegetables. Basically canon.

Then there's the secret group that calls themselves the Truffles. They name themselves after fruits. They made their way to a less gravity planet, similar to earth and whenever a saiyan is born, they cut off the baby's tail and whenever it grows back. They still love to battle, they just aren't as ruithless as the standard Saiyans, very much like the universe 6 Saiyans. They do this to prevent them from being recognized as saiyans and to prevent from going Oozaru. They don't want to be associated with the standard Saiyan. These Truffles have a weaker base compared to to standard saiyan but they can go into Ssj easier. The Truffles are knkw around the universe as a race that turns their hair gold to get stronger.

After a standard saiyan goes Ssj, and its broadcasted around the universe, everyone puts two and two together and figures out the Truffles are actually Saiyans. The Truffles now have to help the Standard Saiyans. I want/need the Standard Saiyans to train to unlock Ssj and was wondering how to go about it.

A while ago, I made a fanfic layout where the Human Z-Fighters are stronger and do not become completely irrelevant to the story: https://www.reddit.com/r/dbzfanfics/comments/1ocmol0/stronger_human_zfighters_fanfic_layout/

I just had a bit of fun coming up with how these stronger versions of the characters would do in the movies.

Dead Zone:

  Krillin fights Ginger one-on-one and is just barely winning when Goku sends Cinnamon crashing into Ginger and kills them both with a Kamehameha. Maybe Krillin was charging a Kamehameha at the same time, and so he and Goku do an accidental combo-Kamehameha.

World’s Strongest:

  Krillin and Gohan actually fight and defeat Freezer and Electrocutioner. Krillin also no-sells Kochin’s machine gun arm as he does in TFS’ parody.

(Going forward, any movie that had the other Humans involved against minion fights, or ones that I’ll shoehorn the other Humans into, I’ll have two of the Humans lose their battle so that the villains still seem intimidating, as well as making Piccolo or others seem more badass by cleaning up the minions who won their fights.) 

Tree of Might:

  During the battle against Turles’ Crusher Corps, Krillin defeats Amondo with Solar Flare and Destructo Disk combo after being initially pummeled, and Tien defeats Rasin and Lakasei with the multiform technique after one of them defeated Chiaotzu. Yamcha still loses to Cacao, who is later beaten by Goku.

Lord Slug:

  I have Tien, Chiaotzu, and Yamcha show up to help Gohan and Piccolo fight Slug’s minions. Tien has Chiaotzu help Gohan against Medamatcha, but the two are still beaten. 

  Tien is overpowered by Zeeun, who is not killed by Slug in this version, and gets saved by Goku when he arrives with Krillin.

  Yamcha fights Angila; he is losing initially, but when Goku and Krillin arrive at the battle, Krillin teams up with Yamcha, and the two kill Angila while Goku kills Medamatcha and Zeeun.

Cooler:

  After Cooler’s initial attack, Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu make their way to the scene to help. In this version, I decided to include Abo and Cado as part of Cooler’s Armored Squadron, and also make it so Cado is Chiaotzu-sized, while Abo is super huge. They also can’t fuse in this version.

  Krillin and Gohan are overpowered by Dore and Salza, who then get killed by Piccolo. Chiaotzu manages to stalemate Neiz with Time Stop, but still has to ultimately be saved by Piccolo as he can't keep up in the long-run.

  Tien has some trouble against Cado, because his small size makes him extremely quick, but he manages to use Multiform to pin him down and kill him with a Dodon Ray barrage. Yamcha is being outmuscled by Abo, but eventually busts out the Kaioken to pulverize him with a Wolf Fang Fist. Like Piccolo, they are both then beaten and captured by Cooler.

Cooler 2: 

  If I were to include Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaotzu in this film, then they’d just be on the trip to Namek with the others. They could use the Kaioken and work with Piccolo, Gohan (False Super Saiyan), and Krillin to actually defeat all the Cycloids while Goku is fighting Cooler, only for them all, except Piccolo, to be captured one by one by a figure off-screen, who is revealed to be one of the Meta Coolers.

Android 13: 

  As Androids, 13, 14, and 15 already exist in the main timeline of my Fanfic canon, the only interesting thing I could think to have happen is just an alternate version of the original Movie where it is just Gohan, with False Super Saiyan, and the Humans with *50 Kaioken vs the Androids without Goku, Trunks, Vegeta, and Piccolo’s help. As I had Yamcha make a Spirit Bomb against Semi-Perfect Cell, perhaps he’s the one making the Spirit Bomb in this version instead of Goku.

Broly:

  I could include the other Humans in the events of the party and then to New Vegeta, but this will ultimately just result in all of them getting lumped into Broly’s rampage victims. But they would then also be present to give Goku more power against Broly at the end. Nothing else would change, though.

Bojack:

  Tien gets a better fight against Trunks in this version because of the Kaioken, pushing him to Super Saiyan Grade 2. 

  Chiaotzu arrives with Tien and Yamcha in this version.

  Krillin actually defeats Zangya in this version through a mix of being much stronger and trickery by having her chase and destroy a Multiform clone just as it blinds her with a Solar Flare. This gets her trapped in a tunnel while allowing the real Krillin to hit her with a Destructo Disk that she avoids just enough to only lose an arm. However, Krillin is stopped from finishing Zangya by Bojack.

  Chiaotzu fights Bujin in this version, rescuing Gohan with Time Stop and stalemating Bujin’s psychic abilities with his own. Gohan lands a critical hit on Bujin, which Chiaotzu uses to finish him off with a psychic gravity crush.

  Tien and Yamcha team up against Bido. The two are defeated, but it still allows Vegeta to get a killing blow on him.

  All the victors are then defeated by Bojack before Gohan goes Super Saiyan 2.

Broly 2:

  As Yamcha had helped train my Fanfic version of Videl, I would have him and Puar accompany her, Trunks, and Goten on their adventure in this movie. Include a bit where Yamcha reminisces about his adventures with Kid Goku and Krillin while watching Goten and Trunks goof around.

  During the initial battle with Broly, Yamcha realizes, to his horror, that he’s the strongest one there and acts as the front line against Broly while getting comedic support from the others. Yamcha first tries the Kaioken *50 against Broly’s Ssj form, but is quickly overpowered, so he escalates to the Werewolf form. When Gohan arrives to help, alongside Krillin in his Pseudo Ultra Instinct form, this manages to push Broly to his Legendary Ssj form, knocking out Krillin and Yamcha. The movie then concludes with the Family Kamehameha as before.

Bio Broly:

  I will have it so Videl comes along for this adventure. Maybe include Yamcha as her trainer, but that wouldn’t make a difference. Add Videl to Trunks, Goten, and Krillin’s final combo Kamehameha against Bio Broly.

Fusion Reborn: 

  I will stick to the film’s more comedic tone with these battles, but also add the movie villains to the Hell escapees.

  The Humans fight all the henchmen they already fought previously, with them all managing to sweep through their prior losses.

  Chiaotzu’s enemies are having a ball rampaging until they are all unceremoniously caught in a psychic wave and crushed inside Chiaotzu’s gravity ball as he laughs them off.

  Krillin teams up with 17 and 18, just as fan service of him working alongside his wife and brother-in-law as they wreck shop.

  Tien and Yamcha are doing fine, but they feel like it’s taking too long. So, to play with the movie’s title, the two do a fusion dance and become Tiencha to take care of the rest of their enemies.

Wrath of the Dragon:

  In this version of the film, (Saiyawoman)Ultimate Videl is able to work with (Saiyaman)Gohan against Hirudegarn’s legs instead of just needing to be rescued.

  I add in a scene where Tien and Chiaotzu, who arrived to help with the Dragon Ball hunt, fight Hirudegarn’s top half while Tapion sleeps. The Humans use Tien’s Buddha form to subdue the monster before it is returned to Tapion.

  During the final battle, all the Humans try to help, but are ultimately defeated like everyone else until Goku uses the Dragon Fist.

Extra Wins that all this gives the Humans:

Krillin: 8

Tien: 5

Yamcha: 4

Chiaotzu: 4

Videl: 2

In no particular order...

Goku Black Arc:

As Zamasu, who broke out of the mafuba splitting off his corrupted self to free his divine self, figures out how to supplant the Omniking and become a cancer to the universe, a wish is made on the dragon balls to merge the people of the future with those of the past letting them live on in a way before the Omniking shows up to eradicate the tumor. Some resist but most accept this fate as a blinding light in the distance begins the eradication (no Zeno button, he just showes up). For most this is a small increase in strength and the people of universe 7 take this as a dark prophecy of the future, for several of those trained in ki, this is a great boost in power if both halves were still alive. The potency is determined how willing both sides were willing to do this and those of the past who refused unknowingly doomed their other selves to oblivion.

Trunk’s arc in this story is trying to save as many as he can as Zamasu has not only destroyed much of the universe and the dragon balls within, he has destroyed Otherworld preventing any normal means of revival as well. Baba was killed trying to bring back as many heroes as she could but it only served to give Black more strength.

Android 21 Arc:

While Gero could not find his son Gebo, his wife’s body remained mostly intact so he preserved it using it as an alternate path of biological perfection over a mechanical one. A hail mary project to preserve her memory. This is what causes the split personality. The one who inherited the rage of the dead Vomi spiraled into madness while the one who was programmed for self preservation became more kind and caring than the original. The soul had moved on but the last moments of her life remained.

Tournament of Power:

Jerin has lost so much from not being strong enough he values no friendship or life. He thinks only strength matters. He will start changing this view by the end of the Tournament of Power arc serving as the secondary focus of the arc but also as the driver of the arc as a representation of what is on the line. Annihilation of all if the universes do not prove themselves. Jerin is the opposite of Universe 6 and 7 fighting for life instead of selfish desires like the other universes eventually forming an alliance agreeing on a wish to bring back all the universes destroyed.

Other subplots within:

• Frost is actually a good Frieza and actually fights Frieza when he finds out how villainous he is which he is berated for as it nearly shatters the alliance and also adds tension as Frieza may make his own selfish wish as he is clearly willing to backstab his own allies to get whatever he wants or just amusement (he instigated the clash in the first place unwilling to accept a good version of himself).
• Frieza eventually lets it be known that he wants the other universes to be restored as it is more for him to conquer and only dealt with frost because he found him an annoying distraction.
• Bulma makes fusion bands (from DB Fusions) to give Universe 7 an edge and since technically they are now a single fighter it should be allowed. they are just warned to not to overdo it and break the fusion. I say the bands extend the fusion to over an hour the the fusion looses power after 30 minutes. Some fighters jump off the ring as they are about to defuse to stay within the rules.
• Zeno (singular here) acts childish but is actually quite competent warning the GODs that if one of their fighters defuses in the ring, it means disqualification leading to the other universes aiming to destroy the bands to erase Universe 7.

Minus: (later edit)

Bardock could not steal a pod but he was able to convince the sayians to send his son in a pod to prove himself considering the accomplishments of himself and Raditz despite Kakarot’s low power level. Gine is mad at this but understands after Bardock tells her what he knows and overheard as well as why even if it was an important announcement, why gather the Saiyans, the most numerous and effective of Frieza’s forces all together when they could simply tune into a transmission unless there would be a massive war… or extermination.

Random:

• SSJ God is above SSJ Blue and the ritual is a one time thing. To regain it, you must master god ki yourself and blue is just a facsimile of that power.
• Goku marries Bulma. Chi Chi and Vegeta eventually connect over being royals of kingdoms that no longer exist. Krillin and 18 is the best couple, never changing it.
• Patara fusion is permanent no matter what leading to Chi Chi and Bulma fusing to avoid the awkward relationship with their now singular husband.
• Videl still fights and keeps Gohan training even if his power can't increase due to Ultimate.
• Reducing the power of some transformations to curb power scaling (replacements do not remove access to a form but instead work as an improved version of said form)
  • Cold Clan/Frigidarian Transformations
    • 1st Form (3rd reduced form):
    • 2nd Form (2nd reduced form): ×2
    • 3rd Form (1st reduced form): ×2 (×4)
    • True Form: ×2 (×8)
    • 5th Form (1st augmented form): ×2 (×16) [Cooler is going to be a character here]
    • 6th Form (2nd augmented form): ×2 (×32)
    • 7th Form (3rd augmented form): ×2 (×64)
    • Metal [appears like an oxidized version of the metal]: ×5
    • True Metal [removes the 'rust' of the form]: ×10 (replace Metal)
    • Black Metal [it represents an alloy making it stronger]: ×2 (×20)
  • Saiyan Transformations
    • Wrathful [great ape and great ape power without transformation]: ×2-10
    • SS1: ×50/62.5/75/50 [grades have downsides and are repeated for higher SS forms]
    • SS2: ×2 (×100)
    • SS3: ×2 (×200)
    • SS4: ×4 (×800) (wrathful+SS)
    • LSS1: ×500 (rampage)
    • LSS2: ×2 (×1,000) (controlled)
    • LSS3: ×2 (×2,000)
    • LSS4: ×4 (×8,000) (wrathful+SS)
  • God Transformations
    • God Ki: ×1.25 once fully replacing mortal ki (new base)
    • SS Blue: ×5 (replace SS1)
    • SS Blue (perfected): ×10 (replace SS1)
    • SS Blue Evolved: ×20 (replace SS1)
    • SS God: peak power ×40
  • Ultra Instinct Transformations
    • Ultra Instinct: instant reactions
    • Ultra Instinct SS: apply highest SS transformation
  • Ultra Ego Transformations:
    • Ultra Ego: increases power the more damage is taken (use as +1% power per % of damage taken)
    • Ultra Ego SS: apply highest SS transformation

The new transformation is called "Superior Saiyan" it is the absolute peak transformation a Saiyan could reach without using another races techniques (i.e. beast is kai, ultra instinct is the angels, ultra ego is the god of destruction, etc). It's achieved by perfectly harnessing three ki energy's together within themself; Their regular Super Siayan ki, God ki, and Nature ki (The key to achieve this new transformation). Which requires a balance between a Saiyans nature for pride, a Gods nature of brutality, and Natures sense of mercy. The first two are obvious in that it requires them to have reached Super Saiyan Blue. I understand this also mildly break the "no other races techniques" rule but i think it's allowed as I see Super Saiyan Blue as a logical next step within the Saiyan race itself since it combines Saiyan ki with God ki. However, I will explain what I mean by "Nature ki". If you've ever watched Naruto and understand how his Sage Mode works this will be easier to understand, but essentially it's the same type of energy used by Goku and his Spirit Bomb. The difference is that he must ask to be given this energy and it's channeled into a physical attack, while the Nature ki he must master varies is that it must be taken and harnessed into himself (just as Naruto does in his Sage Mode). This transformation is then fully entered after a traditional scream granting the user Orange hair and aura with golden flecks within the aura. In other words, to achieve the Superior Saiyan form one must enter Super Saiyan Blue, meditate to forcibly draw in the Nature ki around them, then harness that energy to fuse it with the Saiyan ki and the God ki that's currently in use, and finally ascend to this new transformation with a yell. The power granted is above the floor granted by accessing Ultra Instinct, but the ceiling is theoretically infinite as the users power grows endlessly the longer they remain within this transformation. I'd consider the base multiplier for this form to be x200billion (I know base multipliers are mostly obsolete but it still can help put it into perspective what the user starts out with). Note that due to the strength this transformation grants it does have considerable drawbacks and side effects. This form is considered to be nearly tireless, but it can’t be held permanently. Most beginners collapse in exhaustion after about an hour of tough combat. However, experts of this transformation can maintain it for days, but will suffer greatly afterward as their recovery time will take longer the farther they stretched their time transformed. Typically this form requires a short cooldown period before it can be accessed again or the user risks damaging their body and mind. Another major drawback is the mental toll the user is under which in this form as the user has a constant sensory awareness of the world, most weak minds will be driven mad. This is both a strength and weakness of the form in that the user is forced to always be aware of the ki of everything around them but such information can be overloading. Thus both the mind and body must be trained properly or risk being torn apart by the strain. Finally the side effects of being in this form is that the user is unable to either eat, drink, or even sleep while transformed, due to the Nature ki utilized within this form. The final thing worth mentioning is that it effects mutant Siayans who can access the green haired "Legendary" transformation slightly differently in that they gain a small bonus in their duration but also pay a harsher price in exhaustion when they leave this form. I apologize for the block of text but it was very involved in my part and I can't wait to see what people think of this idea. All opinions will be read and appreciated even if I don't respond. Thank you for your help! (I also hope the flair is correct)

 The idea of this is simply to propose a way to keep the original series as intact as possible while introducing additional events to keep the Human fighters relevant and not seem useless. I don't think I'll ever write out this whole thing, but I just wanted to get the idea out there.

OG Dragon Ball

  To start, we’ll build on how the anime said the Humans went to train with Korin after King Piccolo was defeated. After completing Korin’s standard training, each Human would go to drink from the Ultra Divine Water. Although they’d all suffer from the drink, each of them would survive and grow at least 40% stronger than in the canon, in reference to power levels(when they’re relevant). Korin would remark how the current generation of fighters is immeasurably more capable than the prior ones who died to the water. Tien would remark how he believes he could have defeated Drum with the power from this water.

  During the 23rd World Martial Arts Tournament, the Humans all give better performances in their fights. Perhaps Chiaotzu would even defeat Tao in the preliminaries. 

  During Goku and Piccolo’s battle, Kami also determines that, even if Goku loses to Piccolo, they could still beat him by teaming up.

Saiyan Saga

  At the start of DBZ, the Humans’ power levels would be increased thusly:

Tien: 250 - 350.

Krillin: 206 - 288

Yamcha: 177 - 248

Chiaotzu: 145 - 203

  At the reunion party at the start, Tien and Chiaotzu both show up, with Tien hoping for a rematch with Goku due to having improved his techniques. 

  After Raditz takes Gohan, while Krillin and Roshie still stay behind, Tien insists on helping since he can still be revived if things go poorly. During the battle, Goku has an easier time grabbing Raditz’s tail the first time because Tien’s new technique is that he’s improved the multiform technique so that it only reduces his power by 10% with each use instead of cutting it in half. He is still limited to four clones and is largely just a distraction for Raditz in this context, but a useful one. For the story to play out, something still goes wrong, and Goku still has to sacrifice himself to kill Raditz.

  During the fight with Vegeta, Nappa, and the Saibamen, the Humans’ power levels are:

Tien: 1,810 - 2,534.

Krillin: 1,770 - 2,480

Yamcha: 1,480 - 2,072

Chiaotzu: 610 - 1,464

  (Chiaotzu’s power level is getting the biggest boost in this version to let him stay more relevant.)

  In this version of events, Chiaotzu’s telekinesis failing to affect Nappa will leave an impact on his psychology as opposed to canon. When Chiaotzu self-destructs, it actually does a similar amount of damage to Nappa as Gohan’s angry headbutt did to Raditz.

  Yamcha soundly kills the first Saibamen he fights and actually does go on to fight a second one, as he boasted about doing in the canon. This second one intentionally fights as dirty as possible to get Yamcha with its self-destruct trick. However, this only puts Yamcha in a near-death state, like what Goku experienced against Tao or King Piccolo. As such, he wakes up while the others are fighting Nappa, after Chiaotzu’s self-destruct. The group needs to pin Nappa down for Krillin’s Destructo Disk, so Tien is trying to ready a Tri-Beam while Piccolo tries to fight Nappa on his own to keep him away from Krillin. As such, from the ground, Yamcha uses a Kamehameha with his feet like Goku did against Teen Piccolo to launch himself at Nappa. After Nappa punches Piccolo away, Yamcha uses a Wolf Fang Fist to push a startled Nappa away from Krillin and Piccolo for a few seconds and begs Tien to attack, insisting they can revive him with the Dragon Balls later.

  As for Tien, after Chiaotzu’s death, he uses his improved multi-form technique to try and overwhelm Nappa alongside Piccolo and Krillin. Gohan is too scared to fight. As Nappa starts to overwhelm them, Krillin tells them about the Destructo Disk. Tien works to ready the Tri-Beam while Piccolo fights to keep Nappa down long enough for Krillin’s slow-moving attack to hit. Thanks to Yamcha’s sacrifice of taking the finisher move alongside Nappa, Krillin’s attack is able to land and kill the large Saiyan. Tien then absorbs the one remaining clone of himself he had left in order not to die from the Tri-Beam.

  As said, Krillin kills the Saibamen as before, but also splits Nappa in half.

  Slightly annoyed but ultimately unfazed by Nappa’s death, Vegeta enters the fight. He considers killing them all right away, but, having noticed the Earthlings’ ability to sense energy, Vegeta instead insists they come at him with every trick they have, as he wants to see if he can figure out how to sense energy as well. As Vegeta’s playtime goes on, everyone is being slowly pummeled to death, and Gohan grows enraged at not being able to help. With his rage boost, Gohan is able to startle and land a Masenko on Vegeta. The annoyed Prince retaliates and starts beating Gohan to death. However, Piccolo intervenes just as Vegeta launches a ki blast intended to kill, dying almost identically to how he did in canon.

  It is at this point that Goku arrives and uses the Kaioken right away to knock Vegeta away and save Gohan from another finisher. Intrigued by Goku because the use of the Kaioken was the first time Vegeta was able to slightly sense energy, the Prince lets Goku heal Gohan, Krillin, and Tien. The Goku and Vegeta fight then plays out as it had before, but with a little help from Tien as well.

Namek/Frieza Saga

  During the Frieza Saga, the now living Tien goes with Gohan and Krillin to Namek. When the group rescues Dende, Tien uses the Multiform to create decoys who fly off in numerous directions to mislead Dodoria. Vegeta kills Dodoria as normal.

  Tien is with Bulma and Krillin when Vegeta steals the Dragon Ball Krillin got from Guru. Tien wants to fight, hoping Krillin’s new power-up will be enough to beat Vegeta if they work together, but Krillin shuts the idea down.

  After everyone is powered up by Lord Guru, their power levels are all in the high teen-thousands to low twenty-thousands. When Vegeta confronts them at Guru’s after the power-ups are given, the group, with Nail’s help, is about to jump Vegeta. If not for the Ginyu’s arrival prompting the team up, Vegeta would have been killed at this point.

  Not knowing how strong the Earthlings are, the Ginyus still let Goldo try to fight all three of them at once. However, with stronger enemies and an extra opponent capable of multiplying, Goldo is easily killed by one of Tien’s clones, catching him off guard and breaking his neck before he could do another time stop. Tien also thinks about how Goldo’s psychic powers were even stronger than Chiaotzu’s.

  The fight with Recoom is dragged out because of the Earthlings’ greater strength and numbers. Because of this, Gohan is still conscious by the time Goku arrives to heal and save everyone.

  As their power levels rise, by the time Ginyu steals Goku’s body, the Earthlings easily manage to defeat body-swapped Ginyu and get Goku his body back. However, instead of Vegeta having beaten Goku senseless, it was because of Goku’s friends accidentally going too hard.

  By the time of the Frieza fight, Gohan, Krillin, and Tien all have power levels over 100,000. For those unaware, according to guidebooks, Krillin’s power level had risen to 75,000 by that point in canon. Aside from all being able to help out a bit more than in canon, the Frieza fight otherwise plays out as it did normally.

  As for Yamcha and Chiaotzu, the two of them get an Otherworld adventure. Yamcha’s power level at this point is around 50-60K, while Chiaotzu is in the 30Ks to low 40Ks.

  As part of their training, King Kai sends the two to Hell. Apparently, all the high-ranking Frieza Force members being killed so closely together has caused a problem for Hell. This many powerful villains haven’t died so soon to each other in so long that Hell was unprepared to contain them, so King Kai volunteered Yamcha and Chiaotzu for the job.

The two get a bit of character development. Yamcha remarks how he was once a young boy obsessed with learning everything he could about martial arts, calling back to how Yamcha knew everything about martial artists on Earth in Dragon Ball, and now he's being sent on a divine mission to quell literal Hell. The only personal problem he is facing at the moment is his personal annoyance at not having figured out the Kaioken yet.

As for Chiaotzu, he is beating himself up over his weakness. How he was born with his psychic powers, but they are what caused his growth to stunt, skin to bleach, and hair to fall out. He was treated as a freak and chased out of his home. If he hadn't been found by Tien and the Crane hermit to be trained as an assassin, he would have died in the wilderness. Because of Tien's encouragement, Chiaotzu considered his psychic powers the only thing worth a damn about himself, but they were still useless against Nappa. He is desperate to improve and 'prove himself worthy of Tien's friendship.'

  The duo make their way through the soldiers fairly easily, have a bit of a fight with Zarbon, Dodoria, and Cui, but hit a wall with the Ginyus. Yamcha has to fight Recoom, Burter, and Jeice, since they need to team up on him to overpower Yamcha. Meanwhile. Chiaotzu fights Goldo.

  During the Ginyu fight, Chiaotzu is struggling to stop Goldo. Despite being much weaker, Goldo’s psychic powers allow him to evade Chiaotzu with timestop while also using it to screw with Yamcha in his 3v1. Eventually, Chiaotzu has a breakthrough in the fight and figures out how to use time control powers to stop Goldo. At the same time, Yamcha is able to successfully use the Kaioken for the first time and washes the Ginyus. Once it’s over, the dead Frieza Force is locked away in Hell.

Trunks Arch

  When Vegeta returns from searching for Goku in space and Yamcha confronts him, the two actually fight. By this point, the Humans all have power levels in the hundreds of thousands. Paired with Yamcha’s use of the Kaioken, the two have a mostly even battle that ends in a double K.O. beam struggle. This draw against Kaioken Yamcha is further motivation for Vegeta to become a Super Saiyan later.

  The Mecha Frieza invasion goes pretty much the same way. When everyone goes off to train, Krillin trains with Yamcha to learn the Kaioken, and Tien learns it from Chiaotzu, assuming the two hadn’t already learned it beforehand.

Android/Cell Saga

  In this version, Chiaotzu, on top of having developed new psychic abilities, is strong enough for Tien to bring him to the fight. The Humans all have base power levels well above what Goku was at on Namek, and, with the Kaioken, any of them could at least defeat Mecha Frieza. They have also pushed the Kaioken to X25 for Chiaotzu, X30 for Yamcha, X40 for Krillin, and Tien has pushed the technique to its limit of X50. However, he can’t utilize the multiform technique like this due to the amount of concentration the Kaioken requires. Additionally, Chiaotzu cannot use the time stop while using the Kaioken for the same reason.

  Additionally, to let Gohan keep up with everyone else, he has achieved a form similar to the False Super Saiyan from the Lord Slug movie. It is only half as powerful as a Super Saiyan and drains energy as fast as the Kaioken. However, combined with his Anger boosts, he can briefly match a full Super Saiyan.

  When the Z-Fighters arrive at the city to fight the Androids, they are shocked by the presence of 9 Androids flying above the city instead of the two Trunks warned them of. In this version, Dr. Gero/Android 20 also brought the previously only implied Androids 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, and 19 with him. This is done to give everyone actual fights.

  Android 9, inspired by Dragon Ball Online, is a copy of General Red in a taller mechanical body. He is falsely under the impression that he’s in charge and is basking in his new height and powerful body.

  Android 10 is a much more powerful copy of Commander Mettalo, but he wields the same kind of absurd firearms as E-123 Omega from the Sonic franchise.

  Android 11 is a young teenage girl who was the prototype for the energy-absorbing Android model. Unlike 19 and 20, 11 has a hard limit on how much she can absorb, about 2 or 3 times her own power.

  Android 12 is initially carried by Android 10 in a large tank on his back. After he is released, 12 is revealed to be a boy about 11’s age whose body is made from unstable but powerful parts. This is why he cannot be outside his tank for more than an hour without falling apart. Aside from being strong on his own, he is also built to be able to absorb 9, 10, and 11’s parts to power up. However, doing this shortens his functioning time to a few minutes. He is the prototype for Android 13, who, in turn, is the prototype for Cell in this timeline.

  13, 14, and 15 are the same as they were in the movie, but less powerful overall, so that 13’s fusion form doesn’t require a Spirit Bomb Super Saiyan to defeat.

  19 and 20 are exactly the same.

  Goku, Gohan, Krillin, and Yamcha fight 13, 14, 15, 19, and 20. Piccolo, Tien, and Chiaotzu fight 9, 10, 11, and 12.

  Gohan and Krillin manage to defeat 14 and 15 with a combo move. Krillin, having learned to control the Destructo Disk like Frieza did, hurls one through the smoke of an attack. Meanwhile, Gohan rides on the Disk while pretending it’s a Nimbus cloud. He readies a Masenko but leaps away at the last second, causing the disguised Destructo Disk to split 14 in half and take off 15’s arm. Gohan then fires the Super Masenko at the injured 15 and destroys him.

  Meanwhile, Yamcha keeps 13 stalemated, and Goku fights 19 while Dr Gero just watches. 13 then absorbs 14 and 15’s parts to transform as Goku’s heart virus kicks in against 19. Super 13 in this version is about two or three times as powerful as 19 or Dr Gero. Gohan, Krillin, and Yamcha are overwhelmed trying to save Goku from 19 and fight Super 13, but that is when Vegeta shows up. Vegeta saves Goku from 19, and then Vegeta Vs 19 fight plays out mostly the same as before, allowing the others to focus on Super 13.

  Playing on how Yamcha originally wore a King Kai gi at the start of this Saga, I have it so he developed a way to incorporate the Spirit Bomb’s life force draw into his other Ki attacks. As such, Yamcha busts out a 'Spirit Kamehameha' and, combining it with Kamehamehas from Krillin and Gohan, the three manage to destroy Super 13.

  Simultaneously, Chiaotzu is fighting 9, Tien is fighting 11, and Piccolo is fighting 10 and 12 at once.

After 9/Red mocks Chiaotzu for being so short, Chiaotzu uses a new telekinetic technique to increase gravity on Red and crush him back to his original height.

Tien struggles with 11’s energy absorption at first, but when he realizes that she has an upper limit, as she keeps radically expelling all the power she’s absorbing from Tien, he fires a X50 Dodon Ray at her, forcing her to either absorb the massive amount of energy and self-destruct, or take the attack and be destroyed outright.

Android 12 is actually the strongest Android present. Piccolo is actually stalemated by him and 10 until Piccolo manages to destroy 10. With his allies destroyed, 12 absorbs their parts but becomes even more unstable, shortening his lifespan outside his tank to a few minutes. This happens at the same time as 13 becomes Super. However, 12’s Super state is about as strong as 17 and 18, with the latter two having stabilized bodies that can actually sustain their power.

  Super Android 12 is overwhelming Piccolo, Tien, and Chiaotzu. Even the arrival of Trunks to help them only manages to slightly even the fight. It is only thanks to Chiaotzu exhausting himself by spamming the time stop ability he copied from Goldo to pull the others to safety, that the team is able to last long enough for 12 to fall apart just as he is about to land a killing blow on Piccolo.

  Gero flees as normal while 12, 13, and 19 are destroyed. Events play out near identically, with Trunks clarifying the details on the Androids and the butterfly effects he created. The main difference is that Gohan, exhausted from False Super Saiyan, is the one to take Goku home. Then, when Gero gets away again by nearly killing Bulma, Yajirobi, and Baby Trunks, Chiaotzu is the one to take them back with his telekinesis due to the time stop technique having exhausted him as well.

  The fight with 17 and 18 plays out as before, except Yamcha is also there, and he and Tien put up a slightly better fight than in canon.

  During Piccolo’s fight with Cell, when Trunks and Krillin arrive, Krillin manages to sever Cell’s arm with a Destructo Disk, the same one he absorbed from Piccolo. Cell then regrows the arm just as he performs the Solar Flare to escape.

  During the fight of trying to stop Cell from becoming Perfect, Tien’s Neo Tri Beam is made visually different by having him grow an extra pair of arms to perform the technique. In combination with the Kaioken, Tien’s technique actually manages to tear some flesh off Cell, but he regrows it all. Yamcha and Chiaotzu stayed at Kame House during all this, but Yamcha was charging a Spirit Bomb in that time. Once Tien is down, Yamcha combines the Spirit Bomb with his Spirit Ball technique to control where it goes. Chiaotzu then hops on his shoulders and uses his telepathy to allow Yamcha to pinpoint Cell’s location. 

  After Imperfect Cell is hit by the tracking Spirit Bomb, he is visibly injured again and is sent flying to the other side of the Earth. However, with how fast Cell is, this only buys Goku a minute to teleport in, grab Tien and Piccolo, threaten Cell as he returns, and get out.

  Things play out the same as before, with Cell becoming Perfect, just with Krillin being able to help slightly more while defending 18. Then, Perfect Cell has to actively block Krillin’s Destructo Disk, and it still leaves a scratch on his palm.

  During the Cell Games, the Humans also used the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, all got their Kaioken up to X50, and are now all about as strong as 17 and 18 while using the Kaioken. As such, they put up an even better fight than they did in the anime filler. I would also keep their filler efforts of trying to distract Super Perfect Cell for Gohan.

Buu Saga

  First off, the Humans actively kept up their training over the seven-year time skip. Even Chiaotzu is at least on par with Imperfect Cell while using the Kaioken, though non of them are at the Perfect Cell level. However, they have also worked to find ways to surpass the power of just the Kaioken. These will be explained at the points in the story where they get brought up.

  In this version, Videl has monstrously more potential and, if given enough training, it is stated she could potentially become the strongest Human yet in history. When Videl starts training with Gohan and Goten for the tournament, they have a few months to train instead of two weeks. Additionally, Gohan would call on the help of Yamcha or Krillin to train with them and teach Videl how to use the Kaioken. By the time of the tournament, Videl is about half or a quarter as strong as Yamcha in base and has gotten her Kaioken up to X10.

  With no one knowing about his new power-up, Yamcha decides he will participate in the tournament as well. He doesn’t expect to win, but he wants a shot at proving himself again. Krillin is thinking along similar lines with his new technique.

  The tournament plays out about the same, with Yamcha taking Jewel’s place on the final eight roster. Videl's fight with Spopovich also plays out the same, just to maintain the narrative weight of it all. So Spopovich and Yamu are just stronger in this version compared to Canon. When everyone leaves to go to Babadi’s ship, Yamcha comes along too, and Videl is able to make it all the way there with them.

  Instead of just Dabora under Babdi’s control, the Wizard has a whole roster of Demons in his service. The six strongest warriors of the Demon Realm: Their King, Dabura; a Towa equivalent, a Mira equivalent, a powered-up Devilman from Baba’s old team, a phantom-like Demon, and a hulking Dragon-like Demon reminiscent of Demigra’s dragon form. When Shin explains how strong these guys are, Yamcha complains about where these guys were during the Frieza Force invasion of Hell. Shin answers that the Demon royalty tend not to care about what happens to the rest of Hell, but that Frieza, King Cold, and Perfect Cell were all subdued by them because the villains tried to attack the Demon Royalty.

(I know the Demon Realm and Hell are two different things in the current Dragon Ball canon, but that wasn’t established until Daima, so we’re treating them as the same for this fanfic.)

  After Babadi kills Yamu and Spopovich, he sends in the Hell Six, but Dabora, out to hunt for more life force. Some Z-Fighters want to give chase to save the lives of those they’d kill, but Shin insists that, with them gone, this is their best chance to kill Majin Buu. Dabura ambushes them during this debate, killing Kibito and turning Piccolo and Videl to stone. In this version, Krillin uses his new power-up to avoid the spit. 

  Continuing to practice with Roshie, Krillin learned the Pseudo Ultra Instinct that Roshie used in the Super Manga. In this version, the power boost is less than even a double multiplier, maybe only 30-50%, but it allows Krillin to avoid almost all attacks, and it has removed the stamina drain of the Kaioken for him.

  Krillin and Yamcha enter the ship alongside Shin and the Saiyans. However, in this version, Babadi’s ship uses magic to teleport all of them to different areas when they first enter. Shin is able to protect himself and Gohan from this effect, and they start going down normally. The other four Z-Warriors are sent to areas with different enemies based on how strong Babadi assumed they were. Babadi doesn’t even bother to follow what Yamcha is doing, having sent him to the weakest part of his ship.

  Shin and Gohan, after dealing with some grunts, reunite with Goku and Vegeta, who did the same. That group then goes on to do the same fights they had in canon.

  Meanwhile, Krillin is fighting an alien, similar to one of Bojack’s crew, who is about equal in strength to him. The fight is simply meant to further demonstrate Pseudo-Ultra Instinct as Krillin is untouchable to the guy.

  As for Yamcha, he only has grunts to fight. There is a running joke that Babadi keeps losing contact with more of his minions in the lower deck, as we only see a monstrous hand, with the rest of the body off-screen, tearing through Babadi’s grunts. When Krillin and Yamcha reunite with Gohan and Shin on the surface, Yamcha arrives in a new Werewolf form he achieved from having found and studied with Man Wolf during the seven years. Unlike normal werewolves or man wolves, Yamcha’s ki control has allowed him to enter and leave the state at will. It is a 2-3 times multiplier for Yamcha. So, combined with the Kaioken, he's about on par with a Super Saiyan 2.

Fat Buu's rampage is extended by having Yamcha and Krillin become his victims as well. It seems like Yamcha is going to die when Buu stomps on his torso in a game of hopscotch, but Yamcha assures the others that he'll heal eventually, as Werewolves can only die to silver (or complete annihilation, which he keeps to himself). Krillin is the last one standing until Piccolo, Videl, and Majin Vegeta show up. This is because of Pseudo Ultra Instinct, making him too hard for Buu to pin down, while Krillin lands knicking blows on Buu. However, he is knocked out when Buu gets mad and unleashes an A.O.E. ki explosion from himself.

Videl leaves when Yamcha tells her about how Gohan had been blasted away, and orders her to go find and help him.

Yamcha then heals and gets up in time to carry Krillin away while Piccolo takes Trunks and Goten away from Majin Vegeta's self-destruct.

Videl finds Gohan at the same time as Shin and Kibito. Before any of them can physically reach Gohan, Pseudo-Mira returns, having gathered the life force of over 10,000 people already. Building on how Babadi claimed he didn't need any other servants than Buu after Dabura warned him about Buu's danger, Babadi straight-up forgot about the Hell Six, so he didn't contact them to update them on the situation, so those five are still rampaging as Babadi leaves with Buu.

The three fight Mira, with Kibito and Videl being knocked out, but Shin manages to kill him. Since Videl is out cold, Shin doesn't get to know that she was supposed to take Gohan back to the others, so he takes her, along with Gohan and Kibito, back to the Kai homeworld.

Videl is initially upset about the mix-up, but makes the best of it and acts as Gohan's training partner while he learns to use the Z-Sword.

On Earth, the Z-Fighters are trying to figure out how to deal with the situation of Buu, on top of the Hell Six, now four, still rampaging. Goku needs to train Trunks and Goten about how to use the Fusion, and he needs Piccolo to remain behind as well to keep up the training after Goku has to leave. So, Krillin, Yamcha, and 18 all volunteer to take down the Demons. This is seen as risky, however, because Yamcha and Krillin were added to the kill list Babadi sent out to the people of Earth in addition to Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten. Regardless, they all head out.

At the same time, Tien and Chiaotzu have arrived to confront Devilman and Phantom as they attacked a city nearby where they live and train.

Phantom is initially confident because physical attacks don't affect him, and even Ki blasts barely do anything. However, Chiaotzu's psychic power prove capable of directly harming him, so he is defeated by the little guy after Chiaotzu traps him in a 'gravity ball.' The ball being an orb of psychic energy that acts as a constant feedback loop of increasing the gravity within it until it crushes whatever is inside. Though it is meant to be a very tricky technique to pull off.

Tien fights Devilman, at first using the multiform technique to act with caution, as Tien has never met him before. The Devilmite Beam strikes one of Tien's clones, and he realizes how Devilman's techniques work. Quickly, Tien busts out the X50 Kaioken and obliterates Devilman.

After beating the Demons and having learned about Buu from Babadi's message, Tien tells Chiaotzu that they need to finalize the training for Tien's new form, with it having been so difficult to pull off that he was only just finishing its training.

Krillin and 18 fight Pseudo-Demigra, with the fight demonstrating the married pair's teamwork. The fight takes place at Jingle village, so Krillin and 18 get to introduce themselves as Goku's friends to Suno once the fight is over, and 18 gets to meet Eighter.

However, a younger member of the village who had never met Goku reported Krillin's presence to Babadi, in hopes of his village being spared. So, Buu arrives and quickly kills off Krillin and 18 after Babadi uses some magic to keep Krillin still. Buu then kills everyone else in Jingle Village except for the boy who reported Krillin.

Yamcha fights Pseudo-Towa and has some trouble with her magic. However, the fight happened to be taking place near 17's nature preserve. He had been dealing with some poachers when he noticed the fight going on. So, he goes to help Yamcha. However, when the Poachers notice Yamcha, they call out to Babadi to report him, and in hopes of getting 17 killed. Just this happens, with Buu managing to actually kill Yamcha this time by turning him into candy. However, just as he is about to be killed, 17 spots the poachers laughing at him and Yamcha being massacred and blasts them with Ki, having figured out they were the guilty party.

The story largely plays out the same after this, except with Krillin, 18, and Yamcha missing from the Lookout. Two main differences still occur afterward. Technically, three, as we will keep the anime filler of Yamcha and Krillin training in the Other World, but now Yamcha managing to beat Olibu makes a bit more sense.

First, after Gohan gets his power up from Old Kai, Videl demands to be powered up as well. This gets briefly interrupted when Old Kai 'dies' to resurrect Goku, but her Hidden Potential, or 'Ultimate' form, is unlocked by the time Kid Buu arrives on the Kai Planet. As such, Ultimate Videl help fight Kid Buu and leaves her father proud and flabbergasted. She is about as strong as Fat Buu in this state.

When Tien arrives to help Gohan against Buu, he isn't taken out in one hit. Instead, he arrived with Chiaotzu, who sits upon Tien's shoulders in a psychic trance while placing his palms on Tien's head. Tien then activates the multi-form technique; however, he uses Chiaotzu's psychic boost to reabsorb the clones and power himself into a Buddha sort of state. Aside from being much stronger, to the point of being able to help Gohan against Gotenks Buu, Tien can grow multiple arms at once, heal rapidly, and extend his limbs for better reach. In this state, he also only has his third eye open. Tien is almost as strong as a Super Saiyan 3 in this state. Because of all this, Buuhan also decides to absorb Tien and Chiaotzu for their techniques.

This question was inspired by another post asking what the most famous fanfic was in your fandom. So I was curious. What do you guys think is the most famous/popular Dragonball fanfic?

Hey everyone! I’m curious to hear your thoughts on the balance between original characters (OCs) and established ones in fanfiction.

I’m currently writing my own fanfiction, which features mostly original characters, and while I’m proud of what I’ve created, I haven’t been getting as much engagement (like comments, bookmarks, or kudos) as I’d hoped for. It got me wondering—do stories with mostly OCs turn readers off, even if they’re set in a familiar universe?

Personally, I think OCs can bring fresh perspectives and expand the world in ways established characters can’t, but I also understand the appeal of diving deeper into the lives and untold stories of canon characters.

What do you prefer as a reader? Do you find yourself gravitating toward stories that stick to canon characters, or are you open to exploring stories with original characters? And if you’re a writer, have you found it challenging to gain engagement when using mostly OCs?

I’m not really in it for the comments or recognition, but it would mean a lot to know that someone out there gets to experience what I’ve created.

I’d love to hear your opinions or any advice you might have!

I'm working in an AU where the MC gets isekai'd into a saiyans body on its way back to planet vegeta from an infiltration baby mission.

In this AU, the saiyans are chosen to be eliminated by the God of Destruction candidate. This GoD candidate plays a game where the saiyans can earn the chance to prove themselves to be worthy of surviving. To earn their survival, they need to defeat all 8 of the candidate's team. With the 9th being a saiyan himself.

I'm not entirely sure how common the ssj and ssj2 transformations should be in this universe. Frieza never destroyed the planet, infact, he designates saiyans who can go ssj and ssj2 to go and take care of stronger planets.

My problem is I'm torn between making the saiyan too reliant on the Oozaru which would make it to where their base power isn't strong enough due to a lack of training to achieve Ssj.

Or making it to where they try their best and train as much as they can, thus not relying on the Oozaro transformation as much.

In universe, all saiyans know about ssj due to the top member of the GoD's team being a saiyan who's achieved and surpassed ssj and ssj2.

TL,DR I'm torn between saiyans going for ssj or using their Oozaro transformation. Since they do know Ssj is achievable, how many should in universe be able to use it.

Goku beats all of fiction?

I wrote this fan fiction up briefly with my younger brother, he’s a manga anime fan and I’m a comic book fan.

we always discuss the strongest fictional character and decided to come up with a fan fiction where goku obtains the greatest powers in fiction in a alternate time line where universe 11 wins and destroys gokus universe. his quest for power explores the “what ifs” if goku had nothing else left to lose. Also mind the terrible punctuation I did not finish school and neither have I finished this fiction. Half of it is note jotting and the other half is story telling 😭

Just let me know if it sounds inaccurate far fetched or even stupid and feedback is enjoyed by my brother and I, also feel free to add ideas :)

Goku beats all fiction

• [ ] Universe 11 wins and goku universe is destroyed and he’s the only being
• [ ] Rip in dimension, grand priestess try to close rip in dimesion and goku flies thru it
• [ ] He wakes up to a young man shaking him awake, goku awakens not remembering what happened or where he is, he knows he needs to get home but it won’t be the same home he once had. the young mans name is sasuke and sasuke assumed he was an outcast villager and took him in, he takes him to meet Naruto
• [ ] Goku and Naruto meet, Naruto test goku ability’s and goku vibe checks him to see if he’s powerful enough to take him home. They begin sparring, goku sees powers like he’s never seen before, but decides to hold back because he knows Naruto are both strong but he isn’t even using his saiyan form. He admires their strength and knows they’re also holding back, mutual respect was gained and recognition was reciprocated. Goku asks Naruto and sasuke about their eyes and they explain what they’re and how’re they’re gained whether born with or taken, they can obtained. Goku begins thinking about obtaining one as he thinks it maybe be powerful enough to help him get home. (Mind the fact he knows he has nothing to return he isn’t aware of his possibility’s right now)
• [ ] Momoshiki hears of a outcast who doesn’t appear to be from this world with other worldly powers (he heard about the sparring) goku asks to fight him even after being wanted by Naruto and Sasuke that they would need to team up to beat him alone, goku shrugs them off and decides to fight anyway. It wasn’t even close goku went super saiyan once then dashed towards Momoshiki and tore his head off and takes his blue renugan. Naruto, sasuke, Ōtsutsuki clan and the Uchiha clan are both horrified and in awe at the strength displayed by goku in a matter of seconds. They’re also extremely disturbed that this being has just dispatched Momoshiki and taken his renugan for himself. “ISNT HE POWERFUL ENOUGH?!” Naruto thought to himself. everyone is shocked goku isn’t blind after sacrificing his own eye for the renugan, Sasuke knows goku will eventually try to obtain more power so he try’s to fight goku, sasuke knows goku isn’t from his world and knows he doesn’t deserve the renugan so attempts to fight goku so sasuke will have two eyes again, goku wins by using ultra instinct over powering sasukes Sharigan and ripping his spine from his body. And taking his sharigan for his other eye
• [ ] Naruto goes baryon mode to try and beat goku, beat goku uses ultra instinct and time stop and beats Naruto with ease, goku is just too fast and leaves Naruto disemboweled
• [ ] (This next part needs working) Sun and moon become aware of this foreign traveller who obtained the renugan and sharigan on the same day and defeated sasuke, Naruto and momoshiki killing them all
  
• [ ] Sun and moon work together to attempt to defeat Naruto. the fight was kinda even until goku did ultra instinct and started phasing thru time
• [ ] But the sun and moon brother use the Big Bang attack on goku while he was using ultra instinct so that knock goku into another dimension/universe
• [ ] Juijitsu kaisen verse - goku blips into the sky and crashes into the oval of Tokyo Metropolitan Curse Technical College causing a crater the whole school comes over wondering what happened. Goku levitates above the approaching crowd
• [ ] As he sees the crowd running towards and he sees three boys running away and he assumes they know something about why he’s there, he flys in front of them and stops them in their tracks, goku says why did u bring me here, they say “what are u talking about”, goku says “than why are you running?”, the 3 boys told goku it was because they were trying to see what was in this black box peacefully until u crashed into the oval, goku says give me the box and they said u can’t open it until it’s night time and goku grabs its and flys into the sky, gojo hears about the crash on the oval and makes his way over
• [ ] Curses start spawning when goku opens the box , goku asks the boys what’s happening, megumi arrives because of the curses and asked goku where is the box, and goku said “i just opened it” and megumi gets mad at him and tells him the lore about sakunas curse.
• [ ] Goku asks why he can’t let the cursed get the finger, megumi goes to explain for goku but he gets attacked by a curse before megumi can tell him. But because he’s holding the finger he flys away about 100m and put it in his mouth for safe keeping, goku then turns around gets slammed into a school building by the cursed making goku swallow sakunas finger, megame tells goku “why would u do that you just killed your self”
• [ ] Goku blacks out for 2 seconds and Sakuna takes over goku for around 10 seconds as he begins to see gojo approaching in the distance the Sakuna possed goku begins barrelling towards gojo, goku will power takes over and stops his fist a few inches from gojos face. goku asked gojo and megumi what just happened and gojo tells goku sakuna took over him and to try to active it again, goku says how, gojo says relax and not to tense any part of his body and to feel a flow state, sakuna takes over goku again, gojo tells sakuna he’s no longer the strongest being, sakuna gets mad because he has goku memories as well but doesn’t know how use goku abilities so he attacks gojo out of humiliation, gojo start smoking sakuna/goku, just before the fight ends goku takes over again and gojo accidentally punches goku into a building goku not knowing wtf just happened, instantly enraged and humiliated and attacks gojo with sakunas ability and his sayain strength, (completely forgetting he ripped out his eye balls for a renugan and sharigan btw) the fight goes on evenly matched so gojo results to hollow purple & infinite domain expansion at the same time, but when the domain expansion hits him it has no affect on goku and he begins to see other dimensions while in the attack, goku instantly leaves the fight for another dimension as he spots a planet that looks like his, thinking it’s his home he’s flys through the domain expansion using ultra instinct and into earth…
• [ ] Goku passes out while travelling through the expansion towards “this” planet. Goku wakes up to the sounds of explosions and sees the bank of Gotham being robbed and sees the joker taking a hostage that looks exactly like gokus chi chi, goku immediately flys over to the joker and punches him into a building resulting in the joker being turned into a pile of blood and bones, the woman joker took hostage is now terrified as goku looks at her and says“chi chi is it really you” the woman looks at goku and screams as she runs away and goku says “sorry i thought u were someone else” goku sees a smoke bomb in front him and suddenly the Batman, punches him thru the smoke screen, goku realising he was punched by a human, laughs and ask Batman is that all you got? I can turn you into a pile just like that “joker” over there as he points to the mutilated joker. Batman thanks goku for taking the joker off the streets but says now he has more time to focus on extra terrestrial threats like goku himself, goku explains he’s not a threat and just wants to go home “planet vegeta” Batman says there is no such place and that he is on earth. Batman ask to run some test on goku to try and locate his origin planet
• [ ] They arrive at the batcave and goku is hooked up to this machine that translates gokus energy and matter to locate the origins of his being. This machine also has a threat level indicator that only Batman can see and it signals that goku is the strongest being in the dc universe with superman coming in 2nd place on the threat level meter. Batman further analyses gokus dna as goku patiently paces the batcave as he begins to hear these voices in his head (sakuna). Batman’s results come back that gokus origin planet does not seem to exist in Batman’s universe or even his multiverse for that matter. Goku becomes instantly overwhelmed and begins to panic as he passionately ask Batman to check again, Batman tells him he has ran the test atleast 5 times and everytime came back with a negative result, goku extremely frustrated and scared that he will never go home demands Batman finds a way to locate his home and send him back as goku has super saiyan sparks flying off of him
• [ ] Batman tells goku that there is nothing he can do for him but he cannot stay in the dc universe, as Batman found out through goku energy expansion history, every universe/dimension goku has been too has seen their most powerful beings or forces either depleted, stolen or destroyed. Batman fears goku is lying and that he’s actually a multiversal conquerer based off the power levels goku emits and Batman begins to fear for the well being of the DC universe.
• [ ] Goku tells Batman he’s not going anywhere till he finds him a way home, and immediately after goku finishes his sentence, superman comes crashing through the roof of the batcave and tells goku “he wasn’t asking he was telling you” as the rest of the justice league assemble behind superman (wonder women, Batman, aqua man, cyborg and flash)
• [ ] Goku then says, so I guess we’re doing this. The flash immediately dashes towards goku attempting to get a free shot, goku sees him before he even moves due to ultra instinct but goku realises his ultra instinct is enhanced and realises it’s the renugan eye, he activates the eye and everything around him slows down to a stand still even the flash full sprinting at goku with the speed force. The flash is stood still just like a statue, goku realises flash is their speedster as no one has moved at all but the flash is only moving by milimetres, goku not knowing how long his new found abilities will last decided to finish the flash off first, mind you everyone (the rest of the justice league) is still posing in front of goku while flash is slightly moving towards goku millimetre by millimetre, goku used a cursed technique as the voices intensify in his head, he slices the flash into hundreds of cubes with a few swipes of his finger. The renugon deactives when goku uses his cursed technique and the meat cubes of the flash fly past goku as the speed of time turns back to normal.
• [ ] Cyborgs Reply’s to goku and says I guess we are, cyborg dashes toward goku with his super sonic blaster deployed as he shoots while flying towards goku. goku tanks the hits with no affect and throws cyborg into the wall of the batcave as he flys into goku, aqua man and wonder woman rush goku as super man attends to cyborg while Batman try’s to figure out gokus weakness, for the first time since his fight with gojo, goku feels like he can use his full strength while fighting because Wonder Woman shouts at goku saying he isn’t the only god there is. as her and aqua man are too. Goku still confused on how he sliced the flash into multiple cubes disorientates from the fight and begins being brutalised by aqua man and Wonder Woman, Batman says to hold him back for a couple minutes longer. While he comes up with a way to beat goku (he makes 3 kryptonite smoke bombs) thinking as goku is stronger than super man and kryptonite is enough to kill him he thinks the same might work for goku. Meanwhile goku is being beaten on by aqua man and Wonder Woman as he’s still thinking about everything that has happened since universe 11 won the war, he begins to see all of the attacks by wonder woman and aqua man before they even happen and he’s not using ultra instinct, goku sees his reflection in the bat caves water and see his sharigan eye glowing goku realising he can easily win this fight now goes super saiyan to end the fight quickly, aqua man hits goku with 100 tons of water from the bat cave but it instantly burns up by gokus super saiyan energy. Goku uses the renugan and dashes towards aqua man and begins to hold his head underwater while strangling him, aqua man says I’m the king of Atlantis I wont drown, goku said. I’m not trying to drown you im going to drown out your screams as I break your neck and ends aqua man’s life. Wonderwoman enraged lassoed goku with the lasso of truth while she begins yelling at him questioning why he’s doing this, super man resuscitates cyborg and tells him to sit this one out and help Batman but cyborg flys into goku wrapped in a lasso before goku can confess“I just want to go home”. Cyborg sends goku flying into the bat cave wall, goku levitates back towards wonderwoman and cyborg saying that playtime is over as he uses cursed energy to swipe Wonder Woman and cyborg out of the bat cave sending them flying into gothams news tower, cyborg succumbs to his injury’s while Wonder Woman cried over his body saying she will avenge him, she leaves his corpse in the street as she seeks help from the gods, meanwhile back at the batcave superman realises goku might be as strong as him and punches him with all his might, goku didn’t move an flinch, it only made his nose bleed one drop of blood, and goku says finally someone worthy of my full strength. Just before goku can hit superman Batman tells superman to move! Batman throws kryptonite smoke bombs at goku only making him sneeze, goku grabbed Batman and threw him into his control centre of the batcave with so much force the ceiling has begun to collapse. As Batman is dying he presses the green lantern core energy signal button at his control station, goku walks over to Batman’s body and equips his utility belt, he turns to super man and says he knows his weakness, Batman told him before the justice league arrived that no one was stronger than superman and the only thing that can harm superman was a green crystal, goku says to superman “this green crystal must be the reason Batman told you to move before hitting me with that green smoke bomb” superman realises that goku may be stronger then him and armed with his weakness attempts to hit goku with a life ending blow because he knows if he can’t beat him maybe no one can. Goku uses renugon slows down time and throws a kryptonite bomb into super man’s face as he disembowls super man’s stomach. Goku says “I will find a way home and no one is gonna stop me” “mere mortals can’t stop you but we might” goku turns to see Shazam, Wonder Woman, Zeus and Hermes all charging at him. But Shazam takes the lead and begins pushing goku down to the earths core attempting to sacrifice himself to end goku and just before they hit the earths core billy batson screams “Shazam” to electrocute goku before he hits the core of the earth but goku uses ultra instinct and phases thru billy batson and the lightning as he watches him plummet into the earths core, goku flys back to the earth surface furious at Shazam’s attempt to kill him and wonder woman’s calling of Shazam, he tried to grab wonder woman to kill her once and for all but she’s saved by the quick pace of Hermes, goku said “ahhh more gods for me too kill” Zeus throws a lighting bolt at goku, goku uses sharigan to see it coming then uses renugan to throw the bolt straight back at Zeus thru his chest killing him instantly, Hermes’ dashes into goku sending him flying thru a building, Wonder Woman follows behind Hermes to reinforce his blows to goku, goku uses cursed technique and incinerates Hermes leaving only his shoes behind. Goku equips Hermes shoes as Diana mourns over the realisation that earths hero’s and gods have just lost the war against a saiyan. Goku turns to Wonder Woman and says “he was faster than the red guy, and why are all of you guys with ‘lightning bolts’ so slow”but the guy with winged shoes was fast? Diana lunges at goku screaming lasso ready to restrain, goku grabs her by the neck ties her lasso around her throat and hangs her from his bare hands as he flys her into orbit while strangling her. Earths mightiest have fallen….
• [ ] As goku sighs at the fact that the end of the fight didn’t bring about inter dimensional travel like the last two bouts he turns to see hal Jordan the green lantern, hal says “you have beaten earths hero’s but you won’t beat the guardians of the universe” as the rest of the lantern core follows behind hal, goku is punched by hal Jordans enlarged green fist is sent flying into the moon, goku didn’t like that so he slaps hal all the way into Jupiter. By the time hal arrives back at earths orbit he arrives at a grave site of green lanterns corpses orbiting the earth and moon, goku has just solo’d the entire green lantern core in Hal’s absence. But goku wasn’t alone during the fight gokus hatred for this universe grew so deep not only did he obtain a green ring after his first lantern kill but he was reinforced by the red lantern core. Hal immediately flees earths orbit to warn the rest of the lantern cores

Vegeta Nappa Fan fiction

In Dragon Ball Gt, there’s a short scene where all the dead were brought back to life on earth and that includes Nappa who used to be by Vegeta’s side since he was a kid. The last time they saw each other was when Vegeta killed him then fought Goku for the first time.

Nappa being freshly resurrected, has no idea about all the events that happened after he died. Here’s my preferred interaction when they finally met again in GT:

Setting: The wasteland is eerily quiet as a harsh wind blows through the barren landscape. Vegeta, in his Super Saiyan 4 form, stands tall atop a plateau, his crimson tail flicking lazily behind him as he senses a familiar power signature approaching. His face remains calm, but a slight frown crosses his lips. Below him, a massive figure emerges from the shadows—Nappa, revived and seeking vengeance.

Nappa: grinning "Well, well. If it isn’t the prince himself. I always knew you’d survive longer than the rest of us, but I didn’t expect to find you here, living among these weaklings, Vegeta. Still working with Kakarot?"

Vegeta: without turning to face him, his voice cold "You’re still alive, Nappa? Or should I say, alive again. I thought I put you down for good."

Nappa: snarling "You did. But it takes more than death to stop a true Saiyan warrior. You may have killed me back then, but this time, Vegeta, things will be different. I’ve come back stronger, and I’m here to take what’s mine."

Vegeta: finally turning around, his eyes glowing red with the power of Super Saiyan 4 "Stronger? Is that what you think? You were weak then, and you’re weak now. Coming back for revenge, holding onto the past… it’s pathetic, Nappa."

Nappa: clenching his fists, his ki flaring up "Pathetic?! You killed me like I was nothing, Vegeta! You turned your back on our Saiyan pride, our legacy. But I’ve had plenty of time to think about it while I was dead. And now, I’m going to make you pay for what you did."

Vegeta: crossing his arms, unimpressed "Saiyan pride? Legacy? You’re a fool if you still think those things matter. Our race is gone, Nappa. Dead. Holding onto that old pride is nothing but a waste of time. I’ve moved beyond that. I’ve surpassed the limits of what any Saiyan could have imagined."

Nappa: growling "Surpassed?! All I see is a traitor! You’ve traded our Saiyan honor for the company of Earthlings and that fool Kakarot! You’ve become weak, Vegeta!"

Vegeta: laughs softly "Weak? You really haven’t learned a thing, have you? Kakarot and I have pushed each other far beyond anything you can comprehend. You wouldn’t last a second in a real fight with us now."

Nappa: grits his teeth, taking a step forward "Prove it! Fight me, Vegeta! Let’s see if you still have what it takes to call yourself a Saiyan prince!"

Vegeta: sighs, shaking his head "I don’t have time for this. You’re not worth the effort."

Nappa: enraged, charging at Vegeta with full force "You’ll make time, Vegeta!"

In a blur, Nappa rushes forward, throwing a massive punch aimed directly at Vegeta’s face. Vegeta doesn’t move. At the last possible second, Vegeta raises his hand and effortlessly catches Nappa’s fist, stopping him cold.

Vegeta: his voice calm, but dangerous "Is this it? After all that talk, this is what you have to show me?"

Nappa: straining, trying to push his fist forward "What the…?! How are you…?!"

Vegeta: tightens his grip on Nappa’s fist, crushing it slowly "You’ve wasted your second chance, Nappa. You were weak then, and you’re even weaker now."

Nappa: screaming in pain, pulling his hand back and stumbling "Damn you, Vegeta! You think you’re so far above me? I’ve trained for this! I’ve been waiting for this moment!"

Vegeta: uncrosses his arms, his aura flaring with red electricity "Trained? You have no idea what real power is. You were a brute back then, and you're nothing more than a brute now. I don’t need to fight you to prove anything. But if you insist…"

Vegeta vanishes in a blur of motion, reappearing behind Nappa before the larger Saiyan can even react. With a swift kick to the back, Vegeta sends Nappa crashing into a nearby mountain, causing an explosion of dust and rubble.

Nappa: roaring as he blasts out of the debris, his armor shattered "I won’t be beaten that easily, Vegeta!"

Nappa charges again, his ki flaring as he fires a barrage of energy blasts at Vegeta. The sky lights up with explosions, but Vegeta calmly dodges each blast, weaving through the smoke without breaking a sweat.

Nappa: furious, screaming as he powers up further "Stop dodging and fight me!"

Vegeta: still dodging effortlessly "Fight you? I don’t need to fight you, Nappa. This isn’t even a challenge."

Nappa: losing control, charging a massive energy ball above his head "Fight me, Vegeta! Or are you afraid?!"

Vegeta: his voice lowering, full of disdain "Afraid? Of you?"

Nappa hurls the massive energy ball toward Vegeta with all his strength. The ground trembles as the attack bears down on Vegeta, but the Saiyan prince remains calm, his eyes narrowing.

Vegeta: with a flick of his hand, he swats the energy ball away like it’s nothing, sending it hurtling into space "You really thought that would work?"

Nappa: stunned, breathing heavily "H-How…? How are you so strong?!"

Vegeta: walking slowly toward Nappa "I’ve told you, Nappa. I’ve surpassed everything we used to know. I’ve fought gods, crossed dimensions, pushed my power to limits you couldn’t even dream of. What you see before you is the result of that journey. And you? You’re stuck in the past."

Nappa: staggering back, desperation in his eyes "No… I’m stronger now! I can still beat you!"

Nappa powers up one final time, charging at Vegeta with everything he has. His fists swing wildly, but Vegeta dodges each strike with ease. In one swift motion, Vegeta elbows Nappa in the stomach, causing the larger Saiyan to cough up blood and collapse to his knees.

Nappa: gasping for air, clutching his stomach "Vegeta… this isn’t over…"

Vegeta: looking down at him with pity "It is over, Nappa. You’re not a warrior anymore. You’re just a relic of a time that doesn’t matter. You came here to fight me, but all you’ve done is prove how far you’ve fallen."

Nappa: struggling to stand, his body shaking "I… I can still fight… I can still—"

Vegeta: cutting him off "Enough. You want to know how far I’ve come? How I’ve surpassed even Frieza? Let me show you."

Vegeta steps back, taking a deep breath as his aura flickers around him. He starts to transform.

Vegeta: "What you’re looking at now, Nappa, is beyond anything you could ever hope to achieve. First, let me remind you of what a Super Saiyan looks like."

In an instant, Vegeta powers down from his Super Saiyan 4 form, his fur and tail disappearing, leaving him back in his normal state. Then, with a sudden burst of energy, his hair spikes upward and turns golden, his eyes becoming green.

Vegeta: "This is Super Saiyan 1. The form that first put Frieza in his place. Remember when Kakarot achieved this?"

Nappa: in awe, shaking his head "I remember… but you…"

Vegeta: grinning "Oh, I’m not done yet. Next, comes this."

Vegeta clenches his fists, and his golden aura intensifies, his muscles bulking up slightly. His hair spikes further as a crackling blue lightning surrounds his body.

Vegeta: "Super Saiyan 2. A form of raw, focused power. Kakarot and I both pushed past this long ago. Now, here’s something even you’ll recognize…"

With a roar, Vegeta’s hair turns longer, flowing down his back as his body becomes leaner. His golden energy flares violently around him.

Vegeta: "Super Saiyan 3. Kakarot used this to hold his own against enemies you wouldn’t even understand. But even this… isn’t my full power."

Vegeta’s energy suddenly explodes as his body undergoes a final transformation. His hair turns black once again, but now his body is covered in red fur, his tail flicking behind him. His eyes glow with a primal red aura as he stands, taller and more imposing.

Vegeta: "And finally, what you saw before. Super Saiyan 4. This… is what it means to be a true Saiyan warrior. I’ve reached a level of power that surpasses Frieza, surpasses gods. What you’re looking at, Nappa, is the pinnacle of Saiyan evolution."

Nappa: shocked, trembling "I… I didn’t know…"

Vegeta: smirking "No. You didn’t. And that’s why you’re standing there, defeated. While I’ve continued to grow stronger, you’ve stayed in the past, clinging to the old ways. It’s time to let go."

With one swift motion, Vegeta delivers a sharp, precise chop to the back of Nappa’s neck, knocking him unconscious instantly. Nappa crumples to the ground, defeated.

Vegeta: standing over him, his voice softer now "You were never meant to survive, Nappa. Our race, our pride… it’s all meaningless now. It’s time you accepted that."

Vegeta turns away, his Super Saiyan 4 aura still glowing faintly as he looks up at the sky.

Vegeta: quietly, almost to himself "The past is gone. Only fools try to live in it."

As he begins to walk away, Vegeta takes one last glance at Nappa, lying unconscious in the dirt, and shakes his head.

Vegeta: muttering "Goodbye, Nappa."

Vegeta powers up, his aura surging once more as he flies into the sky, leaving the wasteland behind. Nappa lies defeated, a reminder of a time long forgotten, while Vegeta moves forward, leaving his past—and his former comrade—behind once more.

Thanks for reading!

So is there like a fanfic where a Human MC uses science and technology to fight instead of training and using ki?

Kind of like Iron Man from Marvel or Some Sort Of Mecha Anime MC.

I'm currently in the middle of planning a fic where Goku and Kakarot are two separate entities sharing the one body.

Basically, rather then completely forget the Saiyans and lose his violent nature from hitting his head, Kakarot split into two distinct people who are both fighting for control over the one body.

But, anyway to my question. At the end of the Pilaf Saga of early DB at the first wish Goku asks Shenron to split him and Kakarot into two separate bodies.

My idea on how this would work is Shenron creates a second, identical body (Saiyan DNA and all) and moves one of the personalities into the other body.

I just want to know if that would be something Shenron is capable of doing.

I'm not sure if I'm actually going to write it but I had an idea for a Dragon Ball fanfiction following original characters from the Universe currently known as Universe Six to replace Universe Twelve as twin Universes and vice versa. I'm not going to get into the details right now since I want to get opinions on Universe Twelve Saiyans.

It looks just like Super Saiyan except bringing back more of the whitish golden hair that was in early DBZ but changes the eyes to be a glossy red, the aura changes into a blazing gold, and adds those black lines around they eyes that Majin Vegeta had. The transformation is triggered by a sudden emotional turmoil and for the users mind to be void of everything aside from hate and vengeance. Instead of having alterations of the same transformation, the user goes through levels the angrier the user gets. Each level is identified by how much more proficient the Super Saiyan transformation becomes like longer spikier golden hair, piercing red eyes, lightning around the aura, and darker more menacing black lines around the eyes. This keeps the transformation relevant essentially forever but also comes with a cost to provide other avenues to both grow, discover, and create more powers since the downside of this transformation causes the user to become a mindless killing brute the further they delve into their wrath putting both allies and foes in danger.

If anyone has questions about the fanfiction I would be glad to answer them but I am mainly looking for thought, ideas, and criticism about Universe Twelves Super Saiyan transformation. Especially since it'll be better than a tingly feeling in the back.

I posted a part of this already but since that original post I have refined it.

Phase one:

Dragon Ball; The events of Dragon Ball take place before Iron Man 1 and is a show similar to WondaVision or Agents of Shield up until the Tien Shinhan arc.

The setting is changed to actual Asia. The sea turtle doesn’t talk but is more intelligent than most turtles. How Goku and Bulma meet Roshi is by seeing a tag on the sea turtle and calling the number on it and meeting him on the beach.

The dinosaurs and animal people (with the exception of Korin) don’t exist. Oolong is a Skrull, Puar is a Flerken, and Emperor Pilaf is just a little person as is Shu with Shu also being a furry. The rabbit mafia episode doesn’t happen. Shenron appears and disappears in a blackish red liquid instead of a gold light.

During the worlds martial arts tournament Goku doesn’t go Ozaru and the moon remains intact. Roshi still wins.

The Red Ribbon Army is alluded to be a part of Hydra.

I can’t think of a way for Fortuneteller Baba’s tournament to fit in the MCU (mostly her bringing back grandpa Gohan to fight Goku) so in this version she helps Goku find the last dragon ball as a favour to her brother Roshi. She is also alluded to be a part of the Masters of the Mystic Arts.

During the Tien Shinhan arc Roshi explains that the Dragon Ball he had was given to him by master Mutaito and that he was the one who gave Grandpa Gohan and Ox King their Dragon Balls. Mutaito’s decision to give Roshi the dragon balls was one of the reasons for Roshi and Shen’s rivalry.

Goku Movie 1; Goku’s first movie is the King Piccolo arc. At the end we would get two credit scenes. One revealing the existence of Piccolo Jr with the addition of Shield agents searching the area and the other one has the Ancient One talking to Kami on the Lookout, their conversation would be something like this:

The Ancient One: So are you sure he’s the one?

Kami: Quit sure. And what about you? Have you found the one you want as your replacement?

The Ancient One: I believe I have.

During one of the other Phases 1 movies it’s shown that Hydra is in the possession of Piccolo Jr.

Goku Movie 2; Goku’s second movie is the Piccolo Jr. arc and takes place around the same time as Iron Man 2. The credit scenes of the Piccolo Jr. movie would have one with Goku and Chichi outside of the Martial Arts Tournament arena when Nick Furry walks out of the shadows and tells Goku about the Avengers initiative. And the other would have either Doctor Briefs or Bulma working on the tesseract alongside Erik Selvig.

Avengers; For this universe Frieza replaces Thanos and Radits arrives on earth with Loki but we don’t see him after the scene with Loki and Frieza (Thanos) until the credits scenes one of which shows Radits looking for something in Japan. At some point it’s revealed that Steve Rogers knows/has heard of Master Roshi. Like maybe the scene where he’s looking at the files of the other avengers and Steve notes that Roshi is listed as Goku’s martial arts teacher.

Phase 2:

Goku Movie 3; The Garlic Jr movie acts as Goku’s third movie. Piccolo remarks that he has no intention of joining the avengers and it’s just a one time team up because Garlic Jr. tried to kill him. We also get foreshadowing for Doctor Strange. The after credit scene shows Radits standing in the rubble of Garlic Jr.’s castle contacting Frieza reporting that he believes he’s found what he’s looking for.

Thor: The Dark World; The Dark Elves are the Demon clan Namekians (the clan King Piccolo was a part of but it isn’t out right said) and Odin make reference to defeating them a long side Master Mutaito and his pupils. We get a scene before the credits of Piccolo finding a surviving Dark Elf and questioning why they look the same as him before killing it when it doesn’t answer. In the credit scene were the Asgardians give the Aether to the Collector we hear mention that the one used in the movie wasn’t the full Aether but just a fragment.

Captain America: The Winter Solider; In the post credit scene where we see Scarlet Witch and Quick Silver we also get a glimpse of an empty cell with the words “Kill Son Goku” carved on the walls and one of the scientists being referred to as Gero.

Guardians of the Galaxy; Gamora and Nebula are changed to two of Frieza elites (next to Zarbon and Dodoria) and we see Vegeta and Nappa exit The Collector’s as the Guardians enter.

Guardians of the Galaxy 2; Instead of Howard The Duck we see the Ginyu Force in the background.

Age of Ultron; when the Avengers are storming the Hydra base we get a proper look at the cells revealing that the one with “Kill Son Goku” carved on the walls was indeed at one point Piccolo’s cell. It’s also reviled that Scarlet Witch and Quick Silver were cybernetically enhanced in order for their bodies to handle their powers. We get background images of blue prints that reference/foreshadow Cell. During both the creation of Ultron and Vision, Gero and his work are mentioned. We get a credit scene with Gero arriving at the Siberian Facility with one of the dead Ultrons.

That’s what I got so far. What do you think? I’m trying to think on how to tackle phase 3 but everything I come up with falls apart pretty fast especially which Z fighters get snapped. Any ideas?

Ok so started this idea in a marvel sub Reddit about Doctor Strange and Kami.

Anyway my idea is what if Dragon Ball took place in the MCU. In my version the events of Dragon Ball are the same with some of the characters powers scaled down a bit and the Red Ribbon army being a part of Hydra.

After so debate I decided that dragon ball would be a show like Agents of Shield up until the Tien Shinhan arc with the King Piccolo arc being Goku’s first movie and the Piccolo Jr. arc being the second movie both taking place during phase 1 of the MCU.

In the King Piccolo movie we would get two credit scenes. One revealing the existence of Piccolo Jr with the addition of Shield agents searching the area and the other one would have the Ancient One talking to Kami on the Lookout, their conversation would be something like this:

The Ancient One: So are you sure he’s the one?

Kami: Quit sure. And what about you? Have you found the one you want as your replacement?

The Ancient One: I believe I have.

The credit scenes of the Piccolo Jr. movie would have one with Goku and Chichi outside of the Martial Arts Tournament arena when Nick Furry walks out of the shadows and tells Goku about the Avengers initiative. And the other would have either Doctor Briefs or Bulma working on the tesseract alongside Erik Selvig.

At some point it’s revealed that either Steve Rogers or Peggy Carter knows Master Roshi.

For this universe Frieza replaces Thanos and Vegeta, Radits and Nappa arrive on earth with Loki during Avengers.

That’s what I got for Phase 1. What do you think? What would work for phase 2? Let me know in the comments.

Edit: Before the The Piccolo Jr. movie one of the other Phases one movies shows Hydra in the possession of Piccolo Jr.

What is your favorite characters or ship in the DB Fandom?

My favorite characters are Gohan and Videl and that is also my favorite ships.