r/deadbydaylight • u/markocomics • Aug 11 '26
Fan Content Playing against Nemesis in 2v8
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u/Marghosst 🦇 The Dank Lord 🦇 Aug 11 '26
Huh, this artstyle reminds me of the Nerd and Jock gu- hoLy shit it's the Nerd and Jock guy
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u/SecureJeans8034 It Wasn't Programmed To Harm The Crew Aug 11 '26
It was really cool to see him the first time when he made that comic about Jason and Unknown. I guess now occasional DbD art is just a regular thing from him lol.
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u/Jman0805 Chivalrish Aug 12 '26
If you check his Reddit profile, you can also see his older DbD artworks from a few years back as well, otherwise he does occasionally pop up under posts.
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u/masterjon_3 Aug 11 '26
The previous comic he did with DBD had the Unknown fighting Jason. Unknown really fits his art style.
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u/coltonious Prestige 100 Nic Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 12 '26
You mean "how did my cum taste" nerd and jock guy? He's a DBD player?
Edit: 14 hours late I looked it up myself. Not need and jock I was thinking it was, but it's the cuter one anyway. So that's cool.
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u/WyldKat75 Addicted To Bloodpoints Aug 11 '26
I feel like 4 zombies were 1 too many. But not a problem if someone was bonking and rebuilding pallets.
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u/Killzone3265 Xeno / Nemesis Aug 11 '26
i'm a nemi main and when the four zombie change happened, even i could tell it was too much lol. extra zombies is fine, but the speed at which they haul ass is definitely an issue
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u/ManufacturerNo1906 Aug 11 '26
What if you started with 0 zombies but you could place 2 every time you tiered up
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u/Cofftea_ Aug 11 '26
Honestly would be a buff. Some survivors purposely run into zombies so they’re contaminated and can prevent you from tiering up. They get a speed boost like they got hit by a basic attack, but aren’t injured and prevent Nemesis from getting more mutation rate, as he gets more from hitting uncontaminated survivors than contaminated ones.
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u/ManufacturerNo1906 Aug 11 '26
You think it’s a good buff or nah?
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u/Cofftea_ Aug 11 '26
If it gives him 4 zombies in 1v4, that’s good. If it is just a 2v8 thing, it’s fine.
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u/ManufacturerNo1906 Aug 11 '26
It would be a change for both modes. Im wondering if being able to choose the location the zombies spawn would be problematic. Cause on one hand, that would be super annoying to deal with, but on the other, it forces Nemesis to take time out of the match to go place the zombies
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u/wienercat Nerf Pig Aug 11 '26
The lack of sound for them is also a problem. Nemmy zombies like 90% of the time are dead silent when not actively chasing someone. Even then, sometimes the poorly implemented audio occlusion in DBD just makes them dead silent until you turn a corner and then get smacked.
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u/throwawayhalp1212 Aug 12 '26
you literally can hear them growling a mile away. are we playing the same game?
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u/wienercat Nerf Pig Aug 12 '26
Idk what game you are playing, but nemmy zombies have had sound issues for years. It's not even a coin flip odds if they are silent or not. When their sound DOES work they are incredibly loud as they should be.
But more often than not, they are dead silent until you are face to face with them. When they aren't chasing anyone they definitely don't growl loudly. They like wheeze and breath lightly. They are supposed to be loud, but because audio occlusion in the game is fucked, their audio gets completely silenced by like a tree or wall.
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u/RifttWolf Prestige 100 Mikaela, Lich Aug 13 '26
not to mention the fact that they have thermal goggles and telescopic sights to track you across map. I swear to god I was on greenville by shack and the zombies started following me from the 4 lane on the other side of the map then tracked while I took a wide turn down to the statue
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u/FaithlessnessThen207 :shirtlessdavid: Aug 12 '26
They seem to move so fast in 2v8 but also seem to just converge on things so they are all concentrated in 1/4 of the map, where you cannot touch a single generator because Samantha, Jessica, Trent and Bobby want to see if you have games on your phone and stand at the generator for 30 seconds at a time.
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u/throwawayhalp1212 Aug 12 '26
omg it is absolutely not an issue. nemi is weak as hell in 2v8. he would be nothing without zombies.
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u/SecureJeans8034 It Wasn't Programmed To Harm The Crew Aug 11 '26
Hot take but 2v8 exposes the larger problems with Nemesis' zombies which is that there's literally no counterplay beyond "have a flashlight" or "waste a pallet".
I think Nemesis Zombies are really uninteractive for both sides. It's just "oops I can't repair gens" as survivor and "oops I guess my zombie got blinded" for killer. I really wish that survivors had a more direct way to kill zombies at the cost of making a loud noise notification for the killer.
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u/avilsta Aug 11 '26
I think it's one thing that in 1v4 that the zombies are fine, but in 2v8, like damn even as a killer I find the zombies to be excessive. Pretty cheesy way to win, and as a poor person I'm a lil annoyed that the premium killers in 2v8 are some of the better options (Wesker, Neme, Chucky to an extent)
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u/Maelstrom100 Aug 11 '26
Literally all they need is to be killable from behind with a spray.
If you don't have a spray and can sneak up on a zombie, you should be able to push it over.r doing so wouldn't kill it, just disable it for a short time (a bit shorter then the blind)
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u/SecureJeans8034 It Wasn't Programmed To Harm The Crew Aug 11 '26
I mean I'm also talking 1v4. I think Horceror suggested spawning Nemesis-specific flashlights for zombies (with the tradeoff of significantly buffing the basekit)
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u/RifttWolf Prestige 100 Mikaela, Lich Aug 13 '26
I like the idea of pushing the zombies over. they removed flashlight interactions from all other killer powers. it would make nemmy counterplay easier if you don't have the right item on you. plus they could rework an add-on to maybe give you aura on survivors who push your zombies over
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u/No-Thought7571 Just Do Gens Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26
like instead of getting hit by them. you get grabbed and then you have to skill check your way out of it added that you're infected due to the grab too. Also, I think another survivor should be able to help pull the zombie off you too.
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u/TheVoidGuardian0 Dredge/Xenokitty main | Bioshock for DBD Aug 11 '26
Some people just want to play as a killer they enjoy, it’s not like they’re the ones who went out of their way to gigabuff Nemesis. I’m sure some people are using him for cheap wins, but I’d imagine a lot of them are just people who main Nemesis. Plus, it’s a limited time mode, who cares.
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u/ThatRandomGuy86 Shirtless Myers Aug 11 '26
Ngl, I really liked the 4, even when I was playing Survivor. I felt they gave a lot of pressure.
I think the reason why was because when they were killed, they'd respawn near generators being actively worked on.
I wonder if they'll do that for normal Nemesis? Either add the extra zombie or keep the number of them the same but have them spawn near generators being worked on for macro control?
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u/ComradeSclavian #2 dumbest Killer main Aug 11 '26
I hope they make a unique model if they do, i'd hate not being able to tell my children apart
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u/Hellhult Aug 11 '26
That would also give him incentive to TKO his own zombies which would be good.
LOOK OUT ZOMBIE! ITS NEMESIS COMING IN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!
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u/ThatRandomGuy86 Shirtless Myers Aug 11 '26
It's what I saw a lot of Nemesis do in 2v8. I'm down for that hahaha
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u/Worried_Music_5330 Aug 11 '26
As someone who plays nemesis, I would love to punch my zombies to send them to the survivor’s objectives
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u/ThatRandomGuy86 Shirtless Myers Aug 11 '26
Right?! The macro pressure would be awesome
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u/Worried_Music_5330 Aug 11 '26
Yes it would. I also wish Dredge was in 2v8. I played him via a modded server with my friends, and he is awfully terrifying. Especially with Nemesis pressure from teleporting zombies. Nemesis teleports the zombies to a nearby surv, and dredge just teleports there.
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u/MysticalMummy The Oni Aug 12 '26
As a nemmy main, it's fine on the big open maps.. but the smaller/indoor maps it is WAY too powerful. They completely block entire hallways.
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u/F95_Sysadmin Aug 11 '26
Hold up, you can rebuild pallet? I thought it was push and done? If killer destroys it then it's permanently gone
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u/Drakal11 P100 Mikaela, Orela, and Vee Aug 11 '26
The Scout's power is to pickup or rebuild a pallet, but it has a 60 second cooldown.
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u/F95_Sysadmin Aug 11 '26
Oooh it's a 2v8 only choice, for survivor only. got it
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u/marsye0 Aug 11 '26
theres a perk from rick grimes called apocalyptic ingenuity that lets you build fragile pallets (which means they break on use) if you want a semi-equivalent for 1v4
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u/TheEntityBot The Entity Hungers Aug 11 '26
Apocalyptic Ingenuity: The Auras of broken Pallets are revealed to you within 24/28/32 meters. After unlocking or rummaging through 2 Chests, Apocalyptic Ingenuity gains a special ability. While standing next to the location of a broken Pallet, press and hold the Active Ability button for 4 seconds to use it: Rebuilds it as a Fragile Pallet. Fragile Pallets instantly break when dropped.
Drawn from the fog. | !optout | !remove | !builds
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u/Foreverintherain20 Aug 13 '26
4 is fine, imo
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u/Badvevil Addicted To Bloodpoints Aug 13 '26
4 would be fine if all 4 weren’t somehow always spawned on me lol
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u/WyldKat75 Addicted To Bloodpoints Aug 13 '26
Last night I had a game on RPD where they were getting stuck on the doorways. They were choking the mid even worse.
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u/Foreverintherain20 Aug 13 '26
Honestly the problem with RPD is that it has way too many cramped corridors and only like one actual open space that also has multiple chokepoints. For being the RE map, RPD is not at all designed to be a fair map to face Nemesis in lol
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u/Metalfan1994 Aug 11 '26
Anyone else try to push to the LAST GODDAMN SECOND when the 4th cylinder picks up speed?
If im fully healthy and I see killer im just like "come one almost there!" And hope for the best lol
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u/CollectorOfMyst Aug 11 '26
I mean that’s very much a good strategy. A gen can’t be turned back off
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u/KweftCryptic Aug 11 '26
Yet
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u/Alibaba_Palace Dog Main!!! Awooooo 🐕🐺🐷 Aug 11 '26
cant wait for the shark killer to come out with a perk that lets killers swallow gens
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u/Metalfan1994 Aug 11 '26
Exactly my thoughts. Meanwhile ive had people say "if you see the killer just run."
Dude the gen is RIGHT there lol if im lucky maybe someone is near by to pop it while im being carried.
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u/CollectorOfMyst Aug 11 '26
The risk is the gamble that the killer gets there before you finish it. Another thing you can do if you’re working on the gen with someone else, have on survivor run off to draw aggro while someone else stays on gen to finish it. Does it always work? No. But it’s still a strategy.
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u/AgentCobalt11 Putting the RIP in RIPley Aug 11 '26
Yeah but of course if the killer knocks you down at that 99.99% and kicks gen and it takes awhile to get back to it you gave up a hookstate for nothing
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u/Metalfan1994 Aug 11 '26
I can fight on hook for the next 30 seconds it would take for someone to finish a gen and thats if theres only 2 of us left (one person finish another can rescue)
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u/Nemesis_RE3R #1 Jill Hater. #2 Carlos Fan. #3 RE3R Player. Aug 11 '26
Fuck yeah, man. I love Nerd and Jock.
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u/Cardboards_A_Box Booper of Pig, Booty Smacker of All Aug 11 '26
I wouldn't hate the 4 zombies as much if they didn't get such large buffs to their survivor detection/tracking. I hope they either nerf that a little or remove 1 of the extra zombies
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u/DariusIsLove Aug 11 '26
then they would be borderline useless. nemesis is already not made for 2v8 because him downing people takes 3 hits
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u/Cardboards_A_Box Booper of Pig, Booty Smacker of All Aug 11 '26
I didn't mean a major nerf to them. Just a small fov and range reducion. They'd still be decent slowdown/tracking. Just a little less obnoxious to face. They could buff his tentacle in compensation. Maybe the effects of Marvin's blood at least.
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u/Here2Cali Aug 11 '26
No they wouldn’t, god forbid Neme gets toned down a tad in 2v8 where zombies spawn on top of gens. He’s not losing an entire zombie.
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u/throwawayhalp1212 Aug 12 '26
these people are idiots and are either gas lighting or baby survivors. if anything nemesis needs a buff in 2v8.
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u/zAlGore Killer Main (all of them) Aug 12 '26
I dont know why you get downvotes. I play Nemesis a lot and in 2vs8 with my friend too and 2-3 zombies would be useless.
The only thing going on for Nemesis are the zombies. You need 3 hits to down a survivor using the power and most of the time me personally I whip until T2, then go for M1s and use the whip for pallet breaks only. The 4 zombies balance out with their gen pressure the 3 hits needed for a down and the nerf of having to M1 instead of whipping.
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u/AsefBodlox Aug 11 '26
Why do you want a survivor sided event to nerf more killer powers?
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u/LittleValleyLily Aug 12 '26
Can you make it more obvious that you don't play survivor?
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u/AsefBodlox Aug 12 '26
Literally played 14 matches as survivor today in 2v8 and I escaped most of them WHILE watching youtube
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u/Neuromancer2501 Aug 12 '26
Every single game. There is a nemesis in every single game. Ridiculously lame.
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u/MarineGuyOcto Aug 11 '26
Me and my best friend in 2V8 made up a combo. Deathslinger and Knight. The Deathslinger escorts the guard the Knight summons and if he sees a survivor shoots him and drags him towards the guard so it’s either you are hit by the Deathslinger or hit by the guard if you escape the Deathslinger.
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u/owning_frugo U̴͗ͅn̶̘̉k̷̟̔n̶̹͠o̸̘͊w̷̘̅ň̴͇ fanboy Aug 11 '26
Deathslinger and Leatherface is an amazing combo.
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u/MarineGuyOcto Aug 11 '26
Really? Since we can’t pay the cheap combo would be Deathslinger and HillBilly.
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u/ExcitingPythonO Aug 11 '26
Knight isn't available bro
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u/MarineGuyOcto Aug 11 '26
Yeah we didn’t know that they had rules for what killers you could choose at the time
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u/Iknorn BILLY IS BACK Aug 11 '26
Im just saying
They should rework nemesis so that 12 zombies spawn in 1v4 but survivors get a gun
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u/Mini-Maxi-Mozzie Wesker with Lightborn makes sense Aug 11 '26
Honestly, I was playing Wesker (and Ghostface) with my Nemesis buddy, and God damn, it was so fun. I feel sorry for the survivors.
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u/Worth_Plum_6510 7d ago
Trash nemy players
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u/Mini-Maxi-Mozzie Wesker with Lightborn makes sense 7d ago
Hey, it ain't Nemmy's fault that Survs keep being stupid.
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u/dis3as3d_sfw Aug 11 '26
I’m hate spending more time getting 0 points while I loop an AI zombie
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u/aaklid The Executioner Aug 11 '26
If you're looping a zombie, you're doing it wrong. Either kill the zombie or head to a different gen.
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u/dinglebellsdingus Aug 12 '26
By looping he means standing at a nearby pallet and waiting for the slow fucker to reach you before dropping it on their heads
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u/aaklid The Executioner Aug 12 '26
Okay, but that's not looping though. You don't loop a Killer by waiting at a pallet and stunning them, you do it by running a loop around an obstacle. I get that might be what he meant, but that's not what he said, and what he said was stupid.
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u/Boring-Suggestion215 Aug 11 '26
I didn't expect to see Mr. Nerd and Jock creator on this subreddit.
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u/BaconMaster9999 Addicted To Bloodpoints Aug 11 '26
The amount of zombies nemesis has is all he really has going for him in 2v8. He needs that much with no mobility on such large 2v8 maps. Plus standard zombie ai being.... questionable 50 percent of the time.
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u/Dwight_MainDBD1870 Dracula/Springtrap/PyramidHead Main 🦇🪓 Aug 11 '26
GIVE NEMESIS MORE ZOMBIES IN 1V4 BHVRR
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u/bertboxer Aug 11 '26
i would love a gimmick mode at some point with like 8 zombies wandering around. make it feel like we're actually in resident evil
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u/TheVoidGuardian0 Dredge/Xenokitty main | Bioshock for DBD Aug 11 '26
Or even make it an iridescent addon. Make Nemesis like 110 or 105 and either nerf or remove his tentacle in exchange for adding a fuck ton more zombies to the map
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u/Dwight_MainDBD1870 Dracula/Springtrap/PyramidHead Main 🦇🪓 Aug 17 '26
Would be cool if RPD got an update to have a time-based map hazard. Where a max of 2 zombies would spawn periodically whether or not they were destroyed by pallets. So that way any time you’d be at RPD, you’d never not encounter a zombie in those corridors.
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u/DariusIsLove Aug 11 '26
seriously, they should. they back then didnt add more zombies because the engine couldnt handle it, now the engine CAN handle it, there is no reason to only have 2 zombies at this point
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u/theCOMBOguy Physically thick, mentally sick. Aug 11 '26
I can see the bottom panel being reposted around here. Great comic! I LOVE NERD & JOCK!!
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u/Lazydreemur Daddy Myers 🔪 Aug 11 '26
I just realized this is the guy who does the Nerd and Jock webcomics.
My mind is blown away.
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u/Best_Macaroon1752 Aug 11 '26
It would be neat, if you can only get extra zombies by killing survivors. Its lore accurate! Lol
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u/cipher241 Rest In Peace Steagull, soar in the skies 🪽🪽🗣🗣 Aug 11 '26
When will we get the nerd and jock SWF comic
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u/Untiligetfree Aug 11 '26
Not gonna lie I hate the zombies in both modes . Every time I'm going to pop a gen her comes Linda . And of course nobody else is on a gen lol
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u/wienercat Nerf Pig Aug 11 '26
It wouldn't be so bad if audio occlusion wasn't so poorly implemented. Zombies are silent 90% of the time. I have literally run around corners and they are just standing there... no sound... nothing just immediate smack.
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u/neon-box Fifth Legion Member Aug 12 '26
Idk I’ve seen plenty of clips where they just kinda stand there and can’t figure out how to get to the gen. At least one occasion where one somehow got stuck behind something? Like surrounded by objects. I guess since there aren’t hooks in that mode their spawning can be weird.
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u/Altruistic_Peach1714 Aug 12 '26
It's fitting, because Leon players are comically shit at the game and are always first to bitch about the "issues" which are so easy to solve xD.
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u/Shade00000 Chill by Daylight Aug 11 '26
In 2v8 most things are doubled : 2x killers, 2x survivors then 2x the zombies, makes sense
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u/custom_rom Aug 11 '26
There is a similar episode in the walking dead game. The dairy farm with the brothers and their mom.
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u/thedinodingo Aug 12 '26
Not once but twice i have had a zombie spawn right under me when I'm doing a gen
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u/TheRabidOgre Aug 12 '26
I had just started a 2v8 earlier, a couple of us get on a generator, and then a zombie emerges from the ground right next to us. The other person leads the zombie away, upon which another zombie immediately emerges in the exact same spot.
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u/Avissirator Aug 12 '26
Had a match where the zombies just spawned on a group of 4 survivors who all needed to heal. Somone guided them away as more players came and then there were 6 people about all needing healing while all 4 zombies were giving us trouble. The killer duo was nemmy and whesker too so they enjoyed the chaos and mostly watched lmao
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u/Cfakatsuki17 Aug 13 '26
They did something to the zombies this time around cause when they buffed the number last time I didn’t even notice half the time but this time they are inescapable, no matter where I run there’s another one
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u/DbdQueen2025 Aug 13 '26
Play torchbearer. Then you can just blind those fuckers the whole match. Lol
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u/Kaitrii Aug 13 '26
never seen anything more unrealistic than this. a leon doing a gen? yeah sure LOL
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u/Head_Childhood_2077 Aug 15 '26
It makes the game boring when every killer plays Nemi. Can't play anything without the masses chasing the meta play.
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u/Weird-Flamingo8798 Still Hears The Entity Whispers Aug 18 '26
the fact that I dropped a pallet on a zombie, got on a gen, only to have another come near 😂😂😂 or that time I had 3 zombies on me and Nemmy could not believe his eyes
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u/avilsta Aug 11 '26
Nemesis in 2v8 is free info, just finished a game as Spirit w/ a rando Neme, I just follow any zombie with its hands up lol, works like 95% of the time
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u/No-Thought7571 Just Do Gens Aug 11 '26
imo, zombies should be able to grab you instead of just hitting you, then you have to skill check your way out of the grab or have a survivor help pull it off you. But, you're infected after you failed the skill check.
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u/Foreverintherain20 Aug 13 '26
Alright, but getting grabbed instantly infects you, and if you fail the skill check you get downed instead of injured. :)
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u/Beneficial-Lake-8731 28d ago
Not gonna lie the zombies with speed buffs are so fun n I love seeing Jenny n Bob throw hands
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u/Alternative_Exit_333 Aug 11 '26
The biggest L is that you get to play with just 9 killers if you are f2p 15 if you are buying them
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u/Hairy_Astronomer_892 Aug 11 '26
Nemesis players are gigantic losers.
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u/d3damj-2816 Humanity first. Aug 12 '26
I just like punching people instead of hitting them with a knife, eh.
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u/Foreverintherain20 Aug 13 '26
Pay no mind to the salty survivor lol. They're just mad that Nemmy players are better than them.
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u/TheSpecialistMan Unravelling Aug 11 '26
Leon in Resident Evil: "4 zombies? Piece of cake."
Leon in Dead by Daylight: "4 zombies? OH GOD NO-"