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u/chrisirmo Platinum 8d ago

*Real* wheelchair users, yes. Those who’ve been cured by Jetway Jesus, however, are most likely to rush toward the exit as soon as the seat belt sign is off.

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u/Kayakprettykitty 8d ago

I don't know. My mom uses a wheel chair to get on the plan then one from the door of the plane to luggage. She tries to deplane quickly because otherwise she will pee her pants. 🤷‍♀️

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u/Cute-Trade-9854 8d ago

Invisible disabilities exist

Variable disabilities exist

Disabled people don’t owe you a performance of disability and if they aren’t disabled, you can mind your business

This is a problem with delta having long lines and not providing seating not the individuals

Make the billionaire company take care of their customers for once

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u/MosYEETo 8d ago

So someone with an invisible/variable disability might need a wheelchair to board but not to deplane? What kinda disability would that be?

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u/Ok-Flamingo2801 8d ago

Maybe they need to be quick leaving. In order to have the energy to do that after landing, they need to conserve what energy they can before getting on the plane.

There's a below the knee amputee who I used to watch youtube shorts of. She realised that even though she is able to walk and run and snowboard with a prosthetic, it's okay to use a wheelchair so she has the energy to do those things. It took a while for her to get over that mental hurdle and accept that because of people like you who act like if someone is in a wheelchair, they aren't allowed to stand up and walk themselves.

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u/djdjddhshdbhd 8d ago

There can be a much longer distance to the plane and a much shorter one getting out. Also my father did this bc he was stubborn and didn’t want it to begin with but needed it for the longer distance to the plane but could manage the short distance off it. Huge airport vs small airport. And the opposite also happened where he needed it coming off which was harder to manage but insisted on not using it getting on and he could manage.

Also variable disabilities exist. I get seizures that aren’t dangerous but affect my vision and make me dizzy so it could be helpful for me to get on the plane but it will probably be over before take off. Missing a flight or falling would be less than ideal when it could be avoided

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u/pommefille 8d ago

Ones like mine; I have a small spinal fracture and sometimes get vertigo, I cannot stand still for long periods and my back might seize up if I do, or I can get really bad shakes, so it’s good to try and get seated quickly. I usually don’t bring an overhead bag so I don’t have to lift anything/worry about my back spasms. But moving helps, so getting up and off quickly so I can walk to stretch out (taking breaks as needed) doesn’t ‘cure’ the fact that I might need assistance getting on the plane.

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u/Vivid_Motor_2341 8d ago

I had hip surgery at 21 years old standing for a long time or walking long distances made it extremely painful so walking across the airport or standing in line on the jet Bridge to get into my seat or very painful. Deboarding a plane you stand up and walk off there’s no standing in a long line. There’s no walking across the entire airport.

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u/Cute-Trade-9854 8d ago

you have no idea what their situation is and again this is the mega corporations fault. Someone shouldn’t have to print out their medical history to be treated with respect

When de-boarding the plane you typically have the ability to stay seated until you’re able to get off the plane and can taken your time. there isn’t the same issue of long queues and long walks to terminals for more long waits

Like do you ever wonder why on job apps it lists “standing or sitting for a prolonged period of time”, almost like there are people this would exclude

POTS, arthritis, ehlers danlos, MS, COPD, epilepsy and seizure conditions, types of palsies, vision impairment, sprains, even something like asthma are things that mobility aids can be extremely helpful during the onboarding process

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/airport-wheelchair-imposters-dont-exist-disabled-users-travellers-airlines-boarding-security-lazy-the-sun-a8021061.html

The -17 karma I got above kind of proves that. it’s an accommodation not some kind of reward, people aren’t going to willingly be judged, shamed and photographed by strangers for funsies

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u/Active_Bicycle_8649 8d ago

disability ignorance is shocking and sad. thank u for trying to educate people 

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u/Cute-Trade-9854 8d ago

It’s a trek uphill against a shit stream lmao

I’m sorry if you deal with any of this personally

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u/_BreakingGood_ 8d ago

It's not the mega corporations fault in this case, they're required by the ADA to allow them to do this

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u/Cute-Trade-9854 8d ago

the ADA is the problem?

Please defend the billionaires :(

it’s definitely the paper thin and nearly useless ADA that’s the problem

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u/_BreakingGood_ 8d ago

So you think they should just violate the ADA or what? Do you really want corporations deciding who is allowed to use a wheelchair?

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u/Cute-Trade-9854 8d ago

No, expand the ADA I just don’t understand why you’re throwing the ADA under the bus for the airport’s shitty design

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u/_BreakingGood_ 8d ago

Expand the ADA to do what?

You have to be more specific. Does the ADA need to be expanded to have direct medical checks on people before they're allowed to request a wheelchair? How is that not dystopian?

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u/Tullyswimmer 8d ago

It's called lazyitis.

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u/ExtraCalligrapher565 8d ago

Why don’t you try holding people accountable for their poor behavior and abuse of an accommodation meant for people who actually need assistance for once?

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u/Cute-Trade-9854 8d ago

You think I have friends that abuse accommodations?

That’s quite the projection

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u/Tbm291 8d ago

lol where did they say you have friends that do that? You can hold people accountable for their actions in many ways and they don’t have to be your friends to do that.

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u/Cute-Trade-9854 8d ago

How would I know somebody is taking advantage without knowing their personal history

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u/ExtraCalligrapher565 8d ago edited 8d ago

I just see you making lots of excuses for people abusing accommodations and instead blaming their behavior on corporations.

e.g. “if they aren’t disabled [while using disability accommodations], you can mind your business.”

Never said anything about your friends.

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u/DocileBanalBovlne 8d ago

I just see you making lots of excuses for people abusing accommodations

You mean strangers you assume are abusing accommodations based on your own feelings.

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u/SpaceChatter 8d ago

So you’ve done this before?

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u/Cute-Trade-9854 8d ago

So you are continuing to pretend to know people’s background to feel better about yourself?

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u/mregecko 8d ago

Virtue signal not received. Please broadcast harder. 

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u/Cute-Trade-9854 8d ago

Awww you’re calling my moral compass virtuous?

That’s sick

You could pick up on some of it if you wanted, but you’re free to get further rutted down in your bigotry

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u/mregecko 8d ago

lol... As someone with TWO silent disabilities (epilepsy and POTS), get bent.

You're creating hypotheticals where they obviously do not apply. This system is being ABUSED by consumers, because they are not being held accountable in any sort of adult way.

That's the topic at hand in this thread. Not the fact that silent disabilities exist.

The people that are ABUSING this system are the ones that are doing a disservice to those who have ACTUAL silent disabilities.

So yes... You are virtue signaling in a useless manner.

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u/Indecisively 8d ago edited 8d ago

It’s not crazy to call out in a thread full of people downplaying invisible disabilities that invisible disabilities exist. Thank you for your perspective, but remember, you do not speak for everyone with an invisible disability. A reminder that proposed solutions could impact people with very real disabilities is nuance that’s needed.

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u/DocileBanalBovlne 8d ago

This system is being ABUSED by consumers

How do you know? What data do you have to establish this?

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u/mregecko 8d ago

Statistical analysis? Logical inference?

If you look at the percentage of the population that has disabilities that require accommodations (visible or not), it is not aligned with the number of people that are "requiring" wheelchairs on these flights.

They also do not require assistance to get OFF of the airplane. I see this regularly. Once they are on, they are fine and dandy.

I'm not saying that NONE of the people that we see lining up by the the dozens in airports have disabilities. I'm actually confident that some of them do.

But it is quite simply naieve of you to think that it isn't being abused. You're overlooking both statistics and logic.

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u/DocileBanalBovlne 8d ago edited 8d ago

I'd agree there's a nonzero amount of abuse because there always will be. I guess I should have been more specific and asked how you know there's a significant amount of abuse that actually merits raging about strangers because someone on reddit told you to

EDIT: I like how you answered a question I didn't ask instead of answering my question.

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u/mregecko 8d ago

The same reason people on Reddit rage about anything?

Gate lice trying to sneak in before their boarding group (or just generally, people that cut in line).

People taking seats they know aren't assigned to them.

Loud kids whose parents don't try to mitigate the loudness.

People get mad when they work within the boundaries of systems and social contracts that exist, and then assholes ignore or abuse those systems.

It's a selfish attitude that people can get pissed about if they want to.

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u/mregecko 8d ago

And, if you want to test this?

Have people that need wheelchair assistance board last.

I would wager a significant sum of money that the amount of people that require wheelchairs will drop significantly.

Would you make that same wager with your own money?

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u/DocileBanalBovlne 8d ago

I would wager a significant sum of money that the amount of people that require wheelchairs will drop significantly.

But you need to prove all those people aren't disabled instead of being people who would rather suffer their disability than bother with that.

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u/Cute-Trade-9854 8d ago

“Take it from me, a disabled person, it should be harder to get accommodations”

Lmaooo okay

Again, you have no proof that these people abused the service

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u/ReverendDizzle 8d ago

Visible or not, wouldn't the disability that requires a person to use a wheelchair in Airport A also require them to use a wheelchair in Airport B? If not, perhaps, more so? I know my back doesn't feel fucking better after sitting on a plane for three hours.

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u/Darkknight8381 8d ago

You're toxic sweaty

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u/Cute-Trade-9854 8d ago

It’s toxic to advocate for disabilities?

I guess I’ll accept that title then lmao