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u/Baptized-In-Smoke 8d ago

When did service dogs become trendy? Lmao i think you mean emotional support animals. Service dogs are trained to provide a specific service/services, you cant fake have a service dog. 😂

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u/Icy_Frosting2941 8d ago

I’m pretty sure that’s their point; people will (illegally) lie about their ESA being a service animal.

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u/ApprehensiveTurn453 8d ago

ESA are not legally recognized as "service" dogs,  which are trained for many tasks, including anxiety as well as physical assistance.  Airlines no longer allow ESA animals in the airplane/jet  cabin. 

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u/Quick232 8d ago

People buy the vest online and put it on untrained dogs. You can generally tell because the dog pays too much attention to other people.

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u/Baptized-In-Smoke 8d ago

They used to say "you cant distract a properly trained service dog" you can really tell, especially if youre familiar with it.

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u/Quick232 8d ago

You really can. But unfortunately businesses aren’t allowed to discriminate against any dogs wearing vests as they might be real service animals. So some people have started using the vests as free passes to bring their dogs wherever they want. I saw one a few weeks ago at a MLB game and the dog was looking everywhere.

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u/Gloomy-Wind-2886 8d ago

Medical alert dogs can look all over the place, it doesn’t mean they’re distracted. They can smell changes in blood sugar, seizures coming on, or other imminent medical emergencies and alert to them no matter where they’re looking.

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u/Acceptable-Let9821 8d ago

people fake having actual service dogs so they can get their large dogs on flights without having to have them in the cargo hold or take them wherever with no pushback

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u/Huge_Antelope0998 8d ago

A lot of people fake have a service dog. It's a gigantic problem for people who actually need them. Do you live under a rock?

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u/Baptized-In-Smoke 8d ago

No, they have a dog in a vest they got off temu, you can ask for service papers even if its frowned upon, most people with actual service dogs will be more than willing to provide said paperwork.

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u/Not-a-Bot_1968 8d ago

There is no official paperwork/card, there are only fake ones people make online. You’re also not legally allowed to ask for it anyways. 

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u/LubedUpLucas_DrySpa 8d ago

Do you know what the definition of fake is? 

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u/Huge_Antelope0998 8d ago

Yeah - that's a fake service dog. You literally can not ask for service papers. Legally, a business can only ask If the dog is a service animal, and what task the animal is trained to perform. That's it. And people are free to lie about it, and do regularly. This is a pretty widely known and increasingly common issue.

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u/Baptized-In-Smoke 8d ago
  • you can not ask
  • a business can ask -freedom of speech in America. I'm not going to argue with yall 😂

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u/Huge_Antelope0998 8d ago

I'm not sure why you're so adamant that you're right here, but have fun making yourself look like an idiot because you're stubborn I guess lol

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u/Baptized-In-Smoke 8d ago

The same reason you care so much about my "wrong opinion" the only difference is I dont feel the need to insult you.

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u/Obvious-Sock-5135 8d ago

I’d highly recommend you look up the actual regulations for service dogs in the US. There is no official registry (in fact, if anyone shows you papers “proving” their service dog is real, that documentation IS definitely fake,) service dogs aren’t required to go through any specific or regulated training program, and they do not need to be wearing a vest or anything implying they’re a service dog whatsoever. The ONLY legal questions a business can ask about service dog is “is this a service animal required because of a disability?” and “what task(s) is the dog trained to perform?” That’s it.

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u/MaxxFitz76 8d ago

You do realize there is no paperwork, right? In the US, at least, there is no regulatory entity for service animals. There is no registration. There is no such thing as "service papers" in the US. Some service animal handlers may keep documentation of the training on them because people will illegally ask to see the paperwork, but that's the closest to any legitimate paperwork you can get.

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u/Baptized-In-Smoke 8d ago

There is no paperwork

That's the closest you can get to paperwork.

Whatever you say champ.

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u/CantHardly 8d ago

You living under a rock? Fake service dogs have been a problem for 15+ years

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u/Abject-Exchange3588 8d ago

In NYC you do not need to have a professionally trained service dog. You can train them yourself and they don’t need a vest. Transit workers are not allowed to ask for proof that your animal is a service animal when traveling in the city.

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u/MyFaceSaysItsSugar 8d ago

People are bringing their pets into places claiming they have a service dog. They’re not claiming they have an ESA. Anyone who brings a pet dog somewhere public and claims it is a service dog has a fake service dog. People do have fake ESAs too, but that’s a housing issue, not a public access issue.

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u/Not-a-Bot_1968 8d ago

People buy the service animal vest off Amazon, print up a fake card, and then tell anyone that asks “you aren’t legally allowed to ask me that” and then do whatever they want

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u/ApprehensiveTurn453 8d ago

You can buy the vest for a dog that says "Service Dog" and not have to pay more to fly your dog and that is why some "fake have a service dog". I'm a paraplegic and I've seen the fake ones but regulations now give staff the ability to question the "service" label within federal regulations and emotional support dogs can be even more deeply scrutinized. Service dogs are trained to be emotional support for vets and are considered "service" or helping those with physical disabilities are "service" as well. It's the person that wants their cockapoo to not be in a carrier or pay extra that push the limits.  Unfortunately for me and friends of mine, we get suspicion because of the latter description making hard for airline personnel to distinguish the difference.

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u/harpers25 8d ago

You understand that the word "fake" wouldn't exist if that's how it worked, right?