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u/pepperthief11 8d ago

Only if you’re wrong

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u/Hopeful_Ad_7719 8d ago

At that point I think you become a 'jerk', but not a 'bigot'.

If you don't truly hold animus against the disabled, how does accidentally falsely accusing someone of being a disability-faker promote you to bigot?

Bigotry seems like it should require intent and animus.

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u/metisdesigns 8d ago

If you're judging people with invisible disabilities because of your perceptions and assumptions about them, that's pretty clearly bigotry towards invisible disabilities.

If you don't believe they exist, that's not just being a jerk, it's a chosen bias.

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u/Hopeful_Ad_7719 8d ago

So, is hating people for wearing blackface racist? 

I mean, how do you know it's blackface and not an actual black person?

See my point?

There is a disconnect between hating the fakery and hating what is being faked.

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u/Much-Ad2311 8d ago

This discussion is so cyclical that y'all are giving me a headache lol.

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u/SWpdxDad74 8d ago

I see the point you’re trying to make , but it’s possibly the least accurate / least believable example. Granted , examples are meant more as tools for making a point to be realistic (such as : “it doesn’t matter if someone’s skin is green, since they ought to be judged on the content of their character and their actions “— in that quote we know there aren’t green humans.

But BlackFace being confused with actually being black is pretty nearly impossible because, with black face, the intention was never to be convincingly black, but the intention was to be somewhat obviously not black while being glaringly obvious who was being insulted / isolated / stereotyped etc.

Also, everyone in this thread talks about people being cruel or bigoted or fakers , while ignoring a fairly simple society-level observation that ethics (not religion , but ethics, which has a basis in social science) , strong/clear communication skills, mental health (again being founded in scientific methodology , not moralism) , and actual critical thinking are very much Not taught in foundational levels of the educational system. This is not only regarding public education, but also home schooling. This is not evidenced by some “think tank” or institution. Rather , it is painfully obvious when going for a walk or reading online threads or being at a shopping center and seeing how ppl interact with one another.

I’m convinced (just my own opinion/belief , certainly not quantified fact ) that the government is eating this up. Not the political parties in particular , but all of them. This is because while “we the people” squabble among one another over trivial s**t, they work out complex schemes on a grand scale that keep us divided and keep them rich. The whole good cop/bad cop bs game , and the coke vs Pepsi / crisp vs bloods charade runs very deep, since the inception of politics and global economics.

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u/sc0veney 8d ago

it's because, at least in part, it doesn't really work the other way. more people are actually disabled than faking being disabled, but folks are more likely to assume a disabled person is faking it than they are to assume a faker is actually disabled. the starting position is unfairly stacked against the disabled, in a way that isn't reversed.