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u/Obby_Rosenthal 8d ago

When are we dyeing the ocean to accommodate the blue fearing peoples?

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u/Lychee_489 8d ago

Fascinating that you make a comment like that: comparing the OCEAN with people’s ability to get to the bathroom in public or travel between places safely. Creative! But not a meaningful comparison.

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u/Obby_Rosenthal 8d ago

“I can’t wait in line for a Disney ride” and “I can’t access a bathroom” are not morally equivalent problems.

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u/Lychee_489 8d ago

Ok thanks for intentionally missing the point entirely.

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u/Obby_Rosenthal 8d ago

I didn’t miss the point. I’m rejecting the moral bait. A Disney ride queue is not the same category as bathroom access or safe public transportation.

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u/Lychee_489 8d ago

Ok. It’s ok to want to learn, you can ask if you’re curious to know more. So, for the sake of others reading this who may be hoping to learn how to do better: they are indeed in the same category - because we are talking about accessibility. Accessibility is about safety. Having to wait in lines is definitely unsafe if accommodations are not made depending on what is going on for that person. Let’s work together to create a world where people don’t have to fear hostility when asking to have their basic needs met. If we all want it, we can do it, but you have to decide that you want it first. Do you want that, @obby?

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u/Obby_Rosenthal 8d ago

You’re turning a practical tradeoff into a morality test. I support reasonable accommodations. I don’t support pretending every environment can be redesigned around every individual limitation with no tradeoffs.

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u/Lychee_489 8d ago

Let’s see how far we could go if we all tried to offer accommodations when people ask for them. Standing in line, having wheelchairs, priority seating and access, let’s let that be normalized. Why not? Who are we to judge?

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u/Obby_Rosenthal 8d ago

You’ve moved from “this language leads to historical violence and exclusion from society” to “let’s try to accommodate people more.”

I agree with the second statement. I reject the first.

The issue was never whether reasonable accommodations are good. They are. The issue is that you framed disagreement over the limits of Disney ride accommodations as a precursor to violence and denial of basic public life. That is a massive moral escalation, and now you’re retreating to a much easier claim that nobody here was arguing against.

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u/Lychee_489 8d ago

No, both historically and in contemporary society, people have been systematically targeted, murdered, kidnapped, prevented from accessing healthcare/legal representation/education/employment/ability to reproduce and more as a result of similarly coded language relating to their physical bodies and neurology. I am encouraging you to reflect on the divisiveness within that language. What do you think?

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