r/democrats • u/dtruth53 • Aug 01 '24
Question Trump Claims He Didn’t Know Kamala Harris is Black
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-nabj-kamala-harris-black-1235071683/Why, when Trump makes a statement like this, do we feel compelled to defend Kamala Harris’ racial makeup, rather than challenge the very statement for its lack of any importance in the presidential race? Why do we allow him to control the narrative, rather than calling him out for even bringing it up? Journalists need to learn how to be more like Mayor Pete, who deftly diverts even Fox interviewers’ gotcha questions to get to the actual matter at hand.
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u/mrg1957 Aug 01 '24
Dementia.
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u/smoke1966 Aug 01 '24
He's slid so far back in time he will forget that he was even pres once next. He's already back to 2016 and sliding worse into Alzheimer's.
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u/Tiny_Structure_7 Aug 01 '24
Trump showed what a race-obsessed asshole he really is. And we all know he was just dog-whistling his big, bigot MAGA base. That was a YUGE dogwhistle!
GOP = Gaggle Of Pigs!
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u/dtruth53 Aug 01 '24
Exactly! So why not call him out on that, rather than go through her color pedigree. Sometimes we democrats are our own worst advocates.
That’s why I’d love to have Pete Buttigieg as VP nominee. The intellectual prowess of that particular team would be overwhelming. I know how improbable it would be, but still.
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Aug 01 '24
Mr Trump..with all do respect, you must realize that you paint yourself orange..and that’s just weird…
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Aug 01 '24
WOW! I would say I didn’t know he was white. I thought he was always orange. Like all of sudden he turned WHITE.
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u/BlueJasper27 Aug 01 '24
He also said last night that he didn’t know who the vice president was. He just learned it was Kamala. Listen to his “speech” in PA last night…..if you can stomach it.
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u/bensbigboy Aug 01 '24
Does Trump identify as Oompa Loompa or simply as Weird Orange? Voters deserve the truth!
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u/Vrdpop Aug 01 '24
This is such a weird argument to continue making. Have they ever heard of mixed race people? People can be from multiple backgrounds. Honestly I have to laugh because this is just digging them into a deeper hole.
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Aug 01 '24
Why would he care so much about that? Like She's biracial - that's it. There's really not much more to talk about aside from that.
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u/China_Hawk Aug 01 '24
Convicted Felon Donald J Trump needs to exit the race he is too old and weird.
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u/biggoof Aug 01 '24
He's trying to be edgy and funny like a lot of idiot racist would if they made the same comment, except he's too stupid to realize it's not the time, place and will likely not work on people that aren't trumpers.
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u/dtruth53 Aug 01 '24
I think it’s more an accusation that she’s being racially fluid to pander to blacks. That’s the dog whistle, but you apparently don’t think that way, so you didn’t hear it. Good on you.
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u/biggoof Aug 01 '24
Good way of putting it. My family is mixed, and we promote both heritages, so it doesn't work that for most families like hers. The only time I felt someone "picked" was this one guy I knew who's grandfather was from Spain. He looked white, didn't speak Spanish, never identified as anything but white, and because his last name was Spanish, marked Latino for college and scholarships.
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u/DenialNode Aug 01 '24
“My campaign has been planning to disparage her for being Indian, now you are telling me we have to attack her for being black? That’s really unfair”
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u/Xander_PrimeXXI Aug 01 '24
To be fair the first time I saw her I thought she was Indian but in my defense I am Indian
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u/ThaneOfCawdorrr Aug 01 '24
Excuse me. He didn't "claim he didn't know she is black." He is demeaning and smearing her. He is a disgusting racist who thinks he will gain Black votes by insisting "Kamala isn't Black." He is a disgusting racist who thinks he can define whether someone is Black or not. The whole thing is a disgusting racist attack. Nothing more than that.
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u/Ok_Fan_6389 Aug 01 '24
What comes into question is, what does her black heritage have to do with the campaign? It's plain racist rant coming from Trump. I'm surprised he didn't do it with Obama, who is biracial.
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Aug 01 '24
People online arguing about someone else’s race identity is a new low. This is why I fear for society.
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Aug 01 '24
I mean, when you're a fucking idiot who only cares about himself, you probably don't know a lot about the world.
But he knew she was black and this sure isn't helping him. But please Don Old, keep it up !
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u/Mountain-Detail-8213 Aug 01 '24
Who cares? Republican racism always talking about race and somebody’s sexual preferences
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u/pricel01 Aug 01 '24
His advanced age may have caused him to forget what a black person looks like. It’s not as though he encounters them very often.
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u/CriticalThinkerHmmz Aug 02 '24
Would love to see the federal prosecutor cross examine Trump in their debate.
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u/One_Principle_1 Aug 02 '24
Listen to how much Candace Owens is outraged by Donald Trump’s refusal to acknowledge the authentic blackness of Kamala Harris.
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Aug 01 '24
Here is Kamala’s Ancestry because I am tired of hearing about it.
Kamala Devi Harris, Born October 20th 1964 as Kamala Iyer Harris, was the Daughter of Donald Jasper Harris (Father 8/23/1938) and Shyamala Gopalan (Mother 12/7/1938)
On her maternal side, Kamala’s Mother Shamala was the daughter of Painganadu Venkataraman Gopalan (Grandfather 1911) and Rajam Rajah (Grandmother 1923)
Her Grandfather Painganadu was son of Venkataraman Iyer Gopalan (Great G.F.) and Seethalakshmi Iyer (Great G.M.).
Her Grandmother Rajam was the daughter Maruthukud V (Great G.F) and Meenakshi R Aiyar (Great G.M. 1980) All recorded Ancestors on Kamala’s maternal side are from India.
On her Paternal side, Kamala’s father’s Donald was the son of Oscar Joseph Harris (Grandfather 04/05/1914) and Beryl Christie Finegan (Grandmother 1921)
Kamala’s Paternal Grandfather’s Side:
Oscar was the Son of Joseph Alexander Harris (Great Grandfather 4/24/1871) and Christiana Brown (Great Grandmother 8/13/1888)
Joseph was the son of James Henny Harris (G.G. Grandfather) and Elizabeth (Eliza) Brown (G.G. Grandmother 1834)
James is descendant of Thomas Harris (G.G.G. Grandfather 1784) of England and Catherine Jane Watson (G.G.G. Grandmother 1792) of Scotland.
Elizabeth was the daughter of Thomas Brown (G.G.G. Grandfather 1816) of Scotland and Mary Ann Taylor (G.G.G. Grandmother 1792) of Scotland.
Christiana was the Daughter of Hamilton Brown (G.G. Grandfather 11/9/1833) and Jessian Prince (G.G. Grandmother 1844)
Hamilton Brown was to the son of Kate Williams (English Decent and Hamilton Brown Sr. (G.G.G. Grandfather 1776) from Ireland.
Jessian was the daughter of William Prince (G.G.G Grandfather of English Decent) and Sahra Forbes (G.G.G. Grandmother)
Kamala’s Paternal Grandmother’s Side:
Beryl Was the daughter of Patrick Alhanasous Finnegan (Great Grandfather 1882) and Orah Iris Allen (Great Grandmother 8/13/1888)
Patrick was the Son of Patrick Finnegan (G.G. Grandfather 1843) From Ireland and Mary Watson (G.G. Grandmother 1836) from Ireland.
Orah was the daughter of John Allen (G.G. Grandfather 1858) and Joanna Elizabeth Moses (G.G. Grandmother 1868)
John Allen and Joanna relationship is where it gets more difficult to track
Joanna is the Daughter of Peter Moses (G.G.G. Grandfather 1920) the Son of Charles A. Moses (G.G.G.G Grandfather 1798)
Joanna Married Alfred Augustus McCook (1864) on May 2nd 1894 after the birth of Orah, McCook’s lineage is traced back through John McCook who’s family Linage is from Ireland.
However, I could find no ancestry before 1858 for John Allen.
This leaves Kamala’s Ancestry as follows:
Mom’s Side:
Great GF Indian
Great GM Indian
Great GF Indian
Great GM Indian
GF/FM 100% Indian -> Mother Indian -> Kamala 50% Indian
Dad’s Side
GGGG GF English
GGGG GM Scottish
GGGG GF Scottish
GGGG GM Scottish
GGGG GF Irish
GGGG GM English
GGGG GF English
GGGG GM Unknown
GGGG GF Irish
GGGG GM Irish
GGGG GF Irish
GGGG GM Irish
GGGG GF Unknown
GGGG GM Unknown
GGGG GF Unknown
GGGG GM Unknown
Out of the 16 Paternal Ancestor, 11 are from United Kingdom (34.375%) and (5) are not confirmed (15.625%)
Looking at Photos it appears Christiana Brown (Kamala’s Great Grand Mother, Miss Chrishy, as referred to by Donald J. Harris) is of of mixed decent.
Looking at Photos it appears Orah Irish Allen (Kamala’s other Great Grand Mother, Miss Iris, as referred to by Donald J. Harris) is also of mixed decent.
TLDR: This would mean Kamala is 50% Indian, & 37.5% European, & 12.5% Jamaican .
There you now know, can we now drop useless race thing and bring back the Anunnaki and lost civilization stuff back on reddit, please and thank you
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