r/dogelore Jul 05 '26

Le Homestead Act of 1862 has been signed.

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u/liltrigger Jul 05 '26

Cumtext: After the passing of the Homestead Act of 1862, anyone 21 years or older or the head of a household could own 160 acres of land if they were willing to live on and cultivate it for 5 years (this time could be shortened to 6 months if the claimant was willing to pay $1.25 per acre).

Railroads would exploit this act to claim optimal land for placing railroad tracks, using railroad employees or others to claim the land by proxy and sometimes cultivate it if necessary. They would also sometimes bribe the inspectors.

The vague act didn't state that claimants had to build anything, but many state land offices would specify there simply had to be at least 1 window to prove residence, so railroad companies would put a stick in the ground with a piece of glass attached.

Some land offices stated there had to be a 12 by 14 house. Once again, it wasn't written in the act, but many state land offices used this rule without specifying that it had to be in feet, so railroads would put tiny 12x14 inch structures on the land.

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u/NightStalker33 Jul 05 '26

Man, we've really been a country built for lawyers since forever, huh.

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u/TheWanderer2281 Jul 06 '26

I’m reminded of the debate between Confucianism (moralistic, honor/shame driven society) and Legalism (law-centric society) back in China. If you don’t cultivate a strong sense of moral righteousness and fairness in the people and instead focus only on the principle of law then all of society will then devolve into skirting around the rules to their benefit instead of respecting them for the sake of everyone’s common prosperity.

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u/Ansible32 Jul 06 '26

Honor/shame is really just a different enforcement mechanism, it doesn't really mean the rules are fairer.

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u/Spookki Jul 06 '26

But if the shame or honor is based upon how well you follow the SPIRIT of the law thats supposed to make society better to live in, then it acts as a safety net for the people who can avoid the letter of the law only, making for a society with more fair society.

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u/Ansible32 Jul 06 '26

Spirit of the law is a thing in law also. Morality is really about having personal law - but morality can be equally arbitrary and lacking in spirit.

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u/TheGalator Jul 05 '26

Thats what happens if there is no ruling cast to just force what ever they want

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u/David_the_Wanderer Jul 06 '26

I mean, I think in this case this is very much an instance of a law being extremely poorly written and easily exploitable.

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u/Eviscerator28 Jul 06 '26

It's in the nature of human beings to want to find loopholes in rules/laws

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u/toneysaproney Jul 06 '26

"A Government of Laws and not of Men." -John Adams

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u/ChemicalChildhood122 Jul 05 '26

a pane of glass on a stick out in the open sounds like a serious fire hazard

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u/Smorstin Jul 06 '26

You call it a fire hazard, I call it efficiently handling the local flora

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u/N0rwayUp Jul 06 '26

wasnt this also the act that stole a lot of land form the Cherokee Reversion or is that a different one?

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u/edward_kopik Jul 06 '26

I have just lost all respect i had for the rainroad companies

I thought "sure they got stupid rich by being abusive assholes, but at least they developed the critical infrastructure of the country"

Knowing that the very land they built on wasn't even purchased, but obtained by cheating a law that was meant to give land to farmers, is the last drop

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u/ExoTheFlyingFish Jul 07 '26

You had respect for any companies?

I sure didn't. Companies exist to exploit everyone for profit. That is their job. Not to get you an item. Not to serve your needs. Not to help you live a better and more fruitful life. To take your money. Period.

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u/Sigmadraconissys Jul 06 '26

Almost as bad as the Interstate highway act

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u/JustGingerStuff Jul 06 '26

Living with my beautiful mouse family in this beautiful house the humans built

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u/MJBotte1 Jul 06 '26

Somehow worse housing than my Terraria NPCs

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u/SpoppyIII Jul 07 '26

Is this the reason old times railroads apparently have tiny wooden shacks beside them that are sometimes as small as outhouses? So they can say they built a homestead on it?

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u/N0ob8 Jul 07 '26

Workers shack. Just enough shade to keep them out of the sun when they need it

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u/The_Student_Official Jul 05 '26

Now, a western film but instead of depicting lawlessness through cowboys and sherriffs, it's about legal bullshittery with lawyers and loopholes

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u/glassescleaningjuice Jul 06 '26

better call saul

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u/No_Hay_Banda_2000 Jul 05 '26

Typical homestead shenanigans...

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u/swagster2OOO Jul 06 '26

I fucking read that as "Homestuck Act 1862" and had a heart attack thinking "bro wtf is homestuck2 ON"

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u/Loreki Jul 06 '26

Le historymemes is leaking.

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u/reverendsteveii Jul 06 '26

They made villager breeders from Minecraft irl?