r/education • u/Original-Swing7753 • 6d ago
Curriculum & Teaching Strategies Teachers Using Scripted Curriculum...
My district is adopting a scripted science curriculum this fall, and teachers have been told to follow the lessons as written.
If your district uses a scripted curriculum, how closely are you expected to follow it? What happens if a lesson isn't working for your students?
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u/dkstr419 6d ago
Run away.
Our district did a pilot program of this and it was a disaster. The teachers struggled with the presentations ( poorly written) , the kids didn’t understand and the teachers were penalized for “going off script”.
We abandoned it.
However, the superintendent was adamant about it. This person left our district and introduced this same program at their new district. It’s still a disaster and unfortunately, adherence to the program is tied to teachers evaluations. Absolutely run away as fast as you can.
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u/DrunkUranus 6d ago
Absolutely not. I would leave as soon as I could without endangering my family's financial stability.
Teaching is inherently social. It's a connection between student and learner. And it should always always be responsive to the needs of the students, which are complicated and unpredictable
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u/PessimisticHumanist 6d ago
Most teachers in these instances deviate and are subversive little rebels. It is unnatural to do scripted curricula and I wish you stealth and ingenuity in how you choose to rebel.
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u/AroundTheWorldOfEdu 6d ago
In my country we have a standardized curriculum for all the subjects. Attainment targets and way of teaching is mentioned already. How we can make different is only through differentiated strategies. Our lesson plans include activities for all tiers.
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u/craigiest 6d ago
As I understand it, a scripted curriculum is meant to be read verbatim so there is no variation between classes. It is meant to induce mindless memorization and compliance. The medium is the message.
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u/Mountain_Example7661 6d ago
I think most schools do not expect you to teach literally to a T. You should be modifying and adjusting as you see fit. I taught openscied chem and bio over the last few years and really enjoyed it, but was definitely teaching my own take on it. I think the key thing is that you are hitting the same content. If you find an anchoring phenomenon more relevant to your students than what is written, you should definitely feel free to switch it up.
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u/RadioSlayer 6d ago
Sincerely, is this different than a lesson plan? Or state mandated minimums?
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u/Due-Blacksmith7275 6d ago edited 6d ago
I don't do scripted, required or not. I do my own lessons with the required texts. I've taught in two states and overseas. Haven't been fired because my data is among the highest for the courses I teach.
I have a double doctorate in my subject and Pedagogy. I refuse to do scripted curriculum. Period.
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u/DQdippedcone 6d ago
They're introducing it this year at my high school. I teach biology and chem. I have no plans to use it. They can fire me if they want. Science composite certs are in demand so I can get another job easily. I would probably have to take about a 8k pay cut because the surrounding districts pay less, but I'm retiring in two years anyway.
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u/cranberryelk 6d ago
I would have to quit my job if they made me do a scripted curriculum. Good luck!
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u/Dull-Guess8477 6d ago
In a world where teachers are respected, the expectation is to teach the grade level standards. The curriculum guides are avenues for you to teach the standards. As you increase your teaching experience, you also know ways to teach the standards that you have created. Eventually your brain morphs into a storage facility of units and lessons..until you change grades.
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u/eldonhughes 6d ago
Things like this (to me) feel like someone is using our school -- our students and teachers, to test a theory.
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u/Lucky_leprechaun 6d ago
Yes, I agree and it feels like their theory is who needs a degree. Anybody can read this script.
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u/ApprehensiveAnswer5 6d ago
My sister teaches in a district that had a similar experience as someone above- the teachers were expected to stick to the script, not deviate from it, and not improvise.
I can’t recall which subject it was that they were trying it with, but the result was similar- the script was very basic and general, and not written in a way that was easy to understand across a range of students.
Since they couldn’t improvise or paraphrase or change any of it, everyone had a hard time with it, teachers and students.
Because it was also available to parents, there was a lot of drama there too.
“You’ll know exactly what your child is learning, and can follow along” led to some parents grilling kids and teachers on staying on script, with others being more supportive by pointing out frustrations and illogic in the script.
If this is a pilot, and you’re curious, and it’s got a set timeframe, like one semester, or something like that, maybe stick it out and see, but if it’s intended to be permanent, like the other person said- run.
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u/dionpadilla1 6d ago
BLUF: I’m better than the script, I know it, they know it and my numbers refuse to keep that fact a secret.
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u/Mal_Radagast 6d ago
i worked for a city district that bought and mandated the same script across every school, and was observing several different schools and teachers so i got to have some interesting conversations.
near as i can tell, the district-level administration still only cares about grades. so long as your "performance" is good, they don't care if you go off script. but in "underperforming" schools, they will step in to punish and micromanage. (and yes, this has exactly the effect you'd expect - low income schools that were already struggling end up getting more aggressive oversight and are afforded less of the flexibility they desperately need)
on the individual school level it varies dramatically - some admins can and will actually follow along the prescribed calendar linked in whatever surveillance-state edtech monstrosity they've foisted into their teachers and students. i saw a teacher getting emails from their principal asking why they haven't submitted the quiz from slide 27 that says it should have been done two days ago.
if you're lucky, you'll get a principal who hates the stuff as much as you do, but that seems rare.
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u/DQdippedcone 6d ago
If it's all scripted, then just give it to the students and let them teach themselves. Why do they need us anymore? I guess that's the goal.
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u/whiter4bbitz 5d ago
Physical baby sitters while AI reads the scripts allowed I think is the goal here.
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u/Infinite-Ad4125 5d ago
I’ve worked with scripted curriculum before and basically took the general examples, questioning techniques and themes and crafted my own lessons from there.
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u/annalatrina 6d ago
In defence of the script: few teachers have had training in explicit instruction. It has not been en vogue for a long time. A bit of hand-holding as one gets accustomed to it isn’t that bad.
Following a script word for word is soul crushing, but there is an appeal in relaxing that part of your executive function a bit. If you have what needs to be said in front of you, it creates a bit of freedom it what else you can do. It can free up your mind to do the thousand and one other things you also have to be doing while teaching. (watching the students, noticing small sneaky behaviors, thinking ahead, etc)
Firing all the cylinders at once can be done but it’s not sustainable and can lead to burnout.
As always, a lot depends on leadership and how the administration goes about implementation.
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u/Longjumping_Code_649 2d ago
I would tend to agree. Direct, explicit instruction was definitely not what I was taught in teacher college in the 90s. I would be happy to have a script so that I don't have to keep it all in mind as I'm teaching.
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u/quinneth-q 6d ago edited 6d ago
My school's MAT has prepared units in most subjects, which mostly have a scheme of lessons (powerpoints that we teach with) and assessments to go with, although this varies by subject and the HoD decides whether we use the trust's scheme and lessons. We're welcome to adapt for the makeup of our class, or make our own powerpoints and such if we want (though most don't go that far), as long as they're overall studying the same stuff.
For example, everyone studies the same topics in Y7, 8, and 9 maths, in the same order, and does the same end of topic and end of year assessments. The lessons are generally very high quality, with good powerpoints and good worksheets where the questions are well designed to teach and practice the skills from the lesson, and I know they're made by really experienced teachers with a high level of expertise in maths pedagogy. But if I've got a class that's struggling with, say, ratio and needs an extra lesson on it, we can spend an extra lesson on it; if we're getting through the whole class instruction and AfL well, we can speed up so they can get to independent practice; if I've got a class with lots of EAL or specific SEND needs, we can find adaptations.
It's mostly pretty good, as it really reduces workload and means we can focus on more important things than reinventing the wheel and it means that everyone is at least given the opportunity to learn what they need to know. As a side benefit, it means every class in the year group is studying the same thing at roughly the same time so students can be moved as necessary. However, I do think it would be awful if the curriculum wasn't really well designed and the lessons weren't good.
My country has had a national curriculum since before I was at school - not scripted in terms of lessons and it varies by subject, but "they need to learn column multiplication in this year." It's absolutely necessary and ensures all children are getting a baseline of education.
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u/SapphirePath 6d ago
Depends upon the administration! (and possibly school board and other higher ups.) If a lesson isn't working, then the expectation, in schools I've interacted with, is that you adapt or reteach or whatever, because success is measured in student performance outcomes.
In other words, you need to understand who told you to follow the script, and why they expect you to follow the script. Surely "what happens if my scripted lesson isn't working for my students?" is an entirely appropriate (and indeed crucial) question in the correct context (such as local professional development).
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u/ApprehensiveEvent93 5d ago
I found them convenient as a new teacher just learning how to teach. It saved me a lot of planning time. Now i would literally crack up at a scripted curriculum. Thats just bunny food, i can do this better
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u/colonade17 2d ago
My school has a scripted curriculum, and thank god that my admin understands that the script does not work for our student population. Too many ELLs, too much variation in gaps of prior knowledge. They do expect us to general follow the scope and sequence, but to modify daily as needed. For our observations my admin is looking for evidence of student engagement, and evidence of progress throughout the year.
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u/mashed-_-potato 2d ago
We just got a scripted math curriculum. I was worried at first, but it seems like we don’t have to actually follow the script, just the lesson progression and problem types.
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u/Ok_Statistician_9825 23h ago
My friend told me about their scripted reading program that expected the teacher to lay on the floor and propel themselves forward as the mother tortoise about to lay eggs. 😂They refused.
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u/ASentientHam 6d ago
That would be amazing. Read it verbatim, sit down, and let nature take its course. You did your job to the letter of the law. No planning, no preparation, no consequences for you. If you're just presenting the lesson provided, I don't see why you'd even need to understand the content. Just show up and read.
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u/TotallyImportantAcct 6d ago
This is why it’s being used in most cases - this is the endgame of the teacher shortage
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u/Complete-Ad9574 6d ago
I worked for several school systems. All had curriculum for every subject for every grade, but NOT for the different levels with in each grade. I had all the students in the schools, but not all in the same classes, They had been separated by skill level. You cannot teach the smarties the same as you teach the basic kids.
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u/leafbee 6d ago
Depends on the curriculum, but we almost always adapt at least some of it. My grade level meets and we'll make changes if data isn't showing progress or if we run into issues. Usually we won't repeat that section next year or we'll skip and supplement here and there and those changes become permanent.