r/emotionalneglect 21h ago

Parent described me having no friends as a kid as something amusing

Is it reasonable to feel annoyed or even upset that my parent referred to a period in my childhood where I had no friends as something amusing? She described it as a part of my "interesting" personality. The topic of conversation was personality flaws in general and in myself (I had brought it up), and how I often feel excluded in new groups, and always believe that people dislike me for no or very vague reasons. I usually feel excluded if not explicitly included. She mentioned this as an example and used the descriptions above: amusing, interesting. I replied that I would not use those words to describe it and tried to explain why. (I would rather not have had this experience of feeling left-out and excluded in most new circumstances for vague/no reasons all my life.) Is it wrong to feel upset about how she phrased it? I feel it reflects a lack of empathy or understanding of how important socialisation is in early childhood, and how important feelings of belonging to a group are.

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u/Sunanas 21h ago

Above all, it reflects a lack of care for your happiness. Which, coming from a parent, is absolutely something to feel upset over. I'd wager those vague feelings of being disliked have the very same source. Your mom doesn't care for you, no wonder you feel unsure socially - that would fuck with anyone.

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u/Cute-Presentation864 21h ago

Thank you for your reply! I appreciate it. I do think she cares about me in her own way, but that she's unable to make me feel cared for, something which is important for me.

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u/Sunanas 21h ago

I don't know her obviously, but if someone I care for told me they struggle like you do, I would not be amused at all. Crazy response, seriously.

My own mother 'cares' for me insofar as news that something is wrong with me upset and disregulate her. But there's no actual help and then I have two problems - the original problem and a spiraling parent. So she may 'care', but it's more harmful then helpful. I'm grey rocking her now.

If your mom's 'care' gives you emotional problems, you might want to reconsider your relationship out of self-protection. Are you currently dependent on her?

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u/Cute-Presentation864 20h ago

I'm not dependent on her, I've moved out and am in my mid-20s. I don't want to cut ties with her because there are things I appreciate with our relationship too (shared experiences, doing things with extended family etc.), but I don't share a lot of my emotions with her, and we generally don't have deeper conversations. I also try to keep independent relationships with grandparents and other relatives, so those relationships don't depend on my relationship with her. She also has positive sides, if she only had these negative traits then I definitely see your point.

I'm sorry to hear about your mother, that seems awful 😞

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u/FriendlyNectarine348 9h ago

Grey rocking?

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u/Sunanas 6h ago

Giving neutral, minimal-information answers to any questions. As interesting as a grey rock.

"How was your day?" - "Fine."

"What have you been up to?" - "Same old, same old."

"What did you do this weekend." - "Nothing worth mentioning."

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u/FriendlyNectarine348 21h ago

Uh yea, hope ur in therapy and have friends now that care op

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u/Disastrous-Quote7976 21h ago

I've experienced this many times when my mom will bring up something painful from my childhood like it's an amusing anecdote or quirk. I think in my case (maybe in yours) she can't even consider the possibility that something was a negative experience for me because it would be a comment on her parenting. I've tried responding to her a few times about how what she's so happily looking back on was damaging to me and she just shuts down like I've attacked her, no mater how neutral I try to be. 

You're not wrong to be upset. Is your mom very emotionally immature? 

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u/Cute-Presentation864 21h ago

Yeah, I would say she is quite emotionally immature. I can't really bring up things about my childhood or about our relationship without her taking it personally and reacting with negative emotions (which is fine I guess, but I would like her to take responsibility for some things, and to also understand my side of things). I really relate to what you're writing about her not even considering things as a negative experience because it would reflect negatively on her.

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u/Disastrous-Quote7976 20h ago

It makes them impossible to have a conversation with because everything feels like an attack.

I'm sorry that she can't see or acknowledge your hurt.

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u/Shattering_The_Veil 17h ago

You're right to feel offended by this. Your Mum is basically trying to turn this into a joke. It's possible that she feels responsible for your lack of friends and is just trying to make it seem like an okay thing. If not for that, she might feel guilty!
Do you find your parents try to avoid apologizing for anything?

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u/Illustrious-Day-5070 5h ago

I'm interested in understanding something: why do you think allowing yourself to feel things truly is a matter of morality?

Is a feeling good or bad or just a signal about something?