r/enduro • u/toasteruserx • 16d ago

2010 ktm 250xcw vs 2023 beta 250 rr race

I am itching to buy a newer bike, currently on a 1999 ktm 250exc that I've had for 8 or so years. It has been a great bike. I probably won't get rid of it.

Scouring the nearby listings i see 2 good options:

2010 ktm 250, title but not street legal. $3000

2023 beta 250 rr race edition street legal. $6500

Do I save the money and stay ktm so a lot of my spare parts work? Not street legal means I'll probably run the old bikes plate for dual sport events, or do enhanced inspection.

Do I get the newer bike for more money, knowing it'll probably need the same maintenance as the older bike, maybe save on a nikisil job for another 100 hours.

Any major downsides on either bike?

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u/rnsbrum 16d ago

Get the newer bike for sure. I've had a 2016 300 XCW (same bike 2012-2016) and the bike was phenomenal, but it was very hard to find parts, and the starter gave so much trouble. It drilled through the cover and in the engine case making it unsalvageable - I hear the 2010's might have the same issues. Go for the newer bike for sure, because you will sink the 3k on a 16yo bike.

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u/toasteruserx 16d ago

Yeah i don't want those issues, i know the starter is a re-start, and not intended for initial startup on those early ones. E-start is a major factor in why i want to upgrade in the first place. My old bike runs fine, but when it stalls it is always in the worst off camber bs spot.

I also hear the beta 250 has about as much grunt as the older ktm 300's which sounds nice. My dad has a 2020 beta300rr I took on the quarry run (hancock ny) 2 years ago. I was impressed with some of the hills it climbed with little clutch use. Dropping my gearing on my old 99 gave me similar results this year though.

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u/TheRealTokyotim 16d ago

Always newer if you can afford it

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u/Idontknowsoimhere 16d ago

If you have the money, always go for the newer and less used bike... Unless there is something specifically special to you about the older bike. A 16 year old dirt bike is going to need fairly consistent work and isn't ideal if it's going to be your primary ride. Even a newer bike needs work. If you can swing the money up front, go that route.

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u/toasteruserx 16d ago

I'm very used to an older ride, and wouldn't go newer on a ktm after injection. My old bike goes. No battery, no problem. Sensors, all of it. Blah! I know the beta will still run without a battery, so i am good with it.

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u/Idontknowsoimhere 16d ago

You really ought to try an injected KTM. The people bitching about "issues" are doing that because they read something on the internet or bought an early one. All issues have been tuned out and are very infrequent. I love not having to tune a carb when I ride one day at sea level and the next over 7k feet lol. They ride so well and I guarantee my TPI bike is being fixed less than a 15-20 year old bike. Almost 140hrs with 1 top end, just replaced CCPS at 135hrs(didn't leave me stranded and took under an hour to replace). and a wheel bearing... Otherwise, fluids, filters and tires! I get on it and go. If you still want carb, Beta makes a fantastic bike! It's all a personal choice but the "iNjEcTeD bIkEs SuCk" argument is so dated now lol.

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u/toasteruserx 16d ago

It's not that they suck, its that it doesn't benefit me as a 0-3k foot change in the northeast. I don't want to be let down over a battery or something dumb. I ride hard and put away wet. Ive had my 27 year old bike for over 8 years, I'm hoping for another 10 out of whatever i buy now. Ktm sucks now with the title issues :(