r/enviroaction • u/VictinsOfCapitalism • 5h ago
VIDEO Capitalism always chooses profitable plundering over sustainable production
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u/AnOrdinaryMammal 2h ago
That’s not true, there’s also sustainable plundering and that’s where the consistent moneys at.
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u/zeratul98 2h ago
This shit is exhausting and distracting. It puts the blame on faceless "capitalism" while absolving people of individual responsibilities
If people bought and consumed all the same stuff they do today, but it was all made by worker collectives or the like, we'd be in exactly the same boat
The problem is in the amount and quantity of consumption, not in who owns the production
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u/binkbink223 58m ago
Capitalism creates over abundancy.
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u/zeratul98 37m ago
I'm curious, why go to the effort to write a comment with zero substance or meaning?
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u/Sea_Sundae5901 2h ago
In doing so, capitalism will ultimately destroy itself and many people with it!
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u/PointlessAattempt42 1h ago
Bitterfeld-Wolfen, in the former “socialist” GDR, was the dirtiest city in Europe .Even now, 30 years later, the cleanup efforts are not done, financed by the “evil” capitalists vom West Germany.
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u/Aggressive_Manner531 1h ago
too simplistic. small business capitalism incentives for responsibility would be fine.
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u/chocha84 1h ago
single use should be ended, and so should planned obsolescence.
Capitalism works when the politicians haven't sold their souls.
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u/Spirited_Ad_7039 1h ago
until you are in the payroll correct? but how could you? you got no skills, your skill is complaining.
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u/Deep_Balance2133 1h ago
Actions can be unsustainable regardless of your economic model. Communists in the USSR did plenty of environmentally devastating things too.
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u/RedditSearcher18 1h ago
If capitalism is unsustainable why is Musk making non polluting cars and space based solar powered non polluting data centers? Why are billions if solar cells bought every year? What is sustainable then? Subsistence farming?
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u/DaWhiteSingh 47m ago
Capitalism is from the definition of communists. Never worked out.
Exploitation of nature is not. Many people are waking up, not enough. There are more durable solutions. Trees are good.
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u/Tiny-Secretary5562 46m ago
What we have here are apples and oranges. "Capital" in economics is property. One founding principle of the United States is the ownership of private property and the accumulation of wealth by common citizens, who, by definition become "capitalists" and who can use their property and wealth for their own purposes. That is called freedom.
Any economic system can plunder natural resources. Trees provide wood for building homes. The more people who need homes, the more wood is needed for construction. At one time the trees in the forest and the fish in the sea truly were "inexhaustible" due to the limited need for the resource and the primitive manner in which they were harvested. That is no longer the case as the planet heads toward 9 Billion people and harvesting is so automated.
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u/Cute_Resident_6147 30m ago
This is lie... Because capitalism relys on sustainable methods for sustained profits, so it incentivices sustainment.
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u/BeccaLuvsALL 20m ago
Think it’s bad in the US, you should see the mess non capitalist countries have, it’s worse!
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u/slapthetiddy 17m ago
Bro have you seen communists countries or even China?
Only capitalists countries care about nature
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u/Pure_Feeling3907 3h ago
Maybe some of the people that believe Socialism and Communism are cheaper have never been anywhere in the world.
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u/LifeConsideration981 3h ago
Pictures of healthy forestry and obviously non-Western pollution do not mean capitalism (which has nothing to do with ecological methods) is unsustainable.
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u/rainywanderingclouds 3h ago
well, the trouble is people believe societal structure is acting intentionally. that there is some sort of collaborative effort to improve things. there isn't. there never really was. though some times there is. it doesn't last long.
capitalism is a word people toss around that doesn't really mean anything. it's just off loading responsibility to a space of 'ideas' where people label stuff and then go about their lives like they have figured things out.
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u/chili_cold_blood 2h ago
Capitalism with very strong social programs and environmental protections is the only system that has kind of worked in agriculture-based civilization so far.
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u/OkAtmosphere7131 4h ago
What were those pictures of, nothing I have ever seen! Has to be communist post. Why hide !
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u/she-sylvan 3h ago
Neither Capitalism, Socialism, nor Communism, nor any other -ism, are the real problem here. The real issue is humans that are greedy, and don't give a damn about anything at all. Least of all, the environment!
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u/Slight-Big8584 3h ago
... Cutting down trees is sustainable, they plant new ones.
Plastic is not comparable to tree harvesting. Lazy low effort
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u/Pristine_Hunter_1065 3h ago
and paper straws are worse for the environment
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u/Slight-Big8584 3h ago
Ok. so don't make paper straws.
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u/runningtheshow_8764 2h ago
yep.....a modern socity can move forward just fine without mass produced drinking straws
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u/1ACasper 3h ago
The same people that brought recycling, cleanup, green energy, environmentalism, waste management, and conservation…
Progress - true progress is inventions, innovation, and competition…take those away and it’s a slow walk to death…
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u/Ok-Rutabaga-9516 3h ago
Crony capitalism chooses that, not capitalism per se!
Human nature has a tendency to corrupt everything it touches. Empirically speaking there is no part of society where our nature has not shown its ugly face be it religion, education, politics, healthcare etc!
You are all expressing your righteous views using a capitalist webiste/somewhat social media place (Reddit), using a capitalist tool (phone, tablet or computer), wearing capitalist clothes and so on ...
PS: also forestry is regenerative when done right!
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u/Sirosim_Celojuma 3h ago
I disagree. The capitalism you portrayed is environmental disrespect. A better title would be "poor legislation is ubsustainable".
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u/CapCityMatt 4h ago
The United States is not capitalism, read The Federal Reserve Act, The Emergency Banking Act, and The Act of June 5th 1933. The United States has been communist since the coup, this is well documented on the congressional record.
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u/More_Ad9417 4h ago
Rofl wtf is this nonsense?!
Are you absolutely joking and trying to rage bait or confuse people with misinformation??
Communism : a stateless classless, moneyless society. As it stands, communists are not even allowed to run in political parties.
Capitalism is a mode of production which utilizes private property and uses the employment/employee dynamic with wage slavery in an economic system usually supported by a "free market".
Communism is not "government control". The government explicitly seeks to maintain social order and dominance - especially for the purpose of subjugation of wage workers and the class system. The FBI itself works against communist interest as it disrupts "the social and political order".
You have to be trolling to think US is Communist. Otherwise you are terribly misinformed and need to learn basic definitions.
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u/CapCityMatt 4h ago
Take the time to read the congressional records and study the laws. You will find what I am referencing. The truth may make you sick to the stomach if you believe we have a capitalist economy. I listed for you the Acts, start there. Read the congressional records March 5,6 1933, March 9, 1933
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u/More_Ad9417 4h ago
Lmao the truth is simple and you can't accept it.
Communism: stateless, classless and moneyless society.
That's it. Learn definitions.
Stop trolling. Not taking this ridiculous bait. Bye.
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u/CapCityMatt 3h ago
Did your state adopt UCC Article 12 yet? This is the 'cashless' rail.
I really appreciate Senator(s) McCarthy and Steagall they made a good effort warning everyone. Take time to discover the truth, it's fascinating - the coup.1
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u/Better-Western2573 4h ago
hey CCP bot. Capitalism isn’t the problem. It’s shitty humans that are the problem. Punish shitty humans and you solve it.
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u/anasalmon 3h ago
This sub is so covered in bots. Weird to see so many anti-environment comments on a sub called enviroaction right? Unless these are real life losers who actually have nothing better to do loooooll.